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Poland + Brno + Vienna itinerary and time allocation help, please.

Planning a trip with my daughter in June 2027 and I am hoping for some help with deciding how many nights each city gets.

Currently I'm thinking fly into Gdansk (if it's similar enough in price to Warsaw flights from USA).
Gdansk - 4 nights
Maybe a chamber music concert
WW2 Museum
Malbork Castle day trip
Solidarity Center
Westerplatte
Sopot beach

Wroclaw 2 nights - stop in Torun on the way, store luggage
Old town walk, cathedral island walk, cafe, relax.

Krakow 6 nights (questioning if this is too long? but I don't want to rush, either).

Nowa Huta - 1/2 day
Wawel castle - 1/2 day
Old Town Walk
Kazimierz district
Auschwitz memorial (won't plan anything else for this day, I know it will be heavy)
Salt mine
Schindler factory
Lady with Ermine at Czartoryski Museum
Rynek Underground Museum
Old Jewish Cemetery
St Mary's Basilica

(now that I write all that out, 6 nights doesn't look excessive).

Train to Brno. Brno 2 nights

Spilberk castle, city walk (could skip these if it's too busy)
Austerlitz day (daughter remains a loyal Napoleon fan).

Train Brno to Vienna- (edit to add) Vienna 4 nights
Kunsthistorisches Museum (Giuseppe Archimbolo)
Albertina Museum
Hoping concerts - there are two I'm interested in if we time this right. I have other things I'm sure we'll enjoy in Vienna but I'm also visiting Vienna this September with my husband, and will use that trip to help me decide what I think daughter and I would enjoy most together. The Kunsthistoriches museum is her biggest priority, though.
Fly home from Vienna

I have 18 nights now. I could delete a couple of days, but don't want to go longer.
And I welcome feedback on what I have listed as priorities, too. I love classical music, we both love history. And she is more into art than I am, though I do enjoy it (she enjoys classical music, too). I don't want to rush rush rush and I want to enjoy the rivers and the walks and just spending time together, too.

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We spent a week in Krakow and enjoyed all of it. It is just lovely to walk around and some of the places you are mentioning, like Kazimierz and old town do not necessarily take a lot of time unless you are stopping a lot to shop. We loved walking along the Planty green belt around the city. If you pass the Basilica of St Francis, pop in, it is a very unique church, highly recommend looking in, especially if your daughter is interested in Art Nouveau Art. Even though we were interested in Nowa Huta, it did not really live up to our expectations, personally, I would prioritize other sites. The Schindler Museum always had a line, even with tickets and was very crowded, so consider that when allotting time. We were just there in May.

Gdansk also has a ton to see, in addition we really enjoyed the Emigration Museum in nearby Gdynia if you have the time, A short train ride and walk to the museum. The St Mary Co-Cathedral may also interest your daughter, it felt more like a museum than a church to us and you are also likely to pass it in old town. The WW2 museum is huge and pretty emotionally draining , took us half a day. We spent about 4 days in Gdansk and easily filled it without Malbork, Westport or Sopot.

Enjoy.

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I like your itinerary a lot!

A very memorable way to do Nowa Huta is with a Crazy Guides tour. Get picked up at your hotel in an old East German Trabant or Soviet Lada and ride in Warsaw Pact style to the communist-era development. I went for the Deluxe tour which includes lunch; on my tour, we went to a milk bar near Nowa Huta and tried a variety of pierogi and other treats. It's a bit pricey, but it's a cool experience. The guides tend to be young, too. My guide was a college student studying in China who was "home" for the summer. https://www.crazyguides.com/

It's cool that you are including Brno, which rarely makes it onto itineraries. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I'm spending 7 nights there in October. Austerlitz was on the initial planning list but didn't make the final cut. I guess my Napoleon fandom is nowhere near your daughter's level. Forum member Fred, however, will be delighted that Austerlitz made your cut.

The Musikverein is a great place to see a classical concert. It's Habsburg wonderful! I wouldn't recommend one of the "Best of" shows with musicians in period costume, but if you can find something more interesting, it really is an excellent venue.

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With two nights in Brno, you only really have one day unless you take a later train to Vienna.

I was there a couple of months ago and enjoyed it. If you can't add any nights to Brno, my suggestion would be to take a later train to Vienna and spend most of the day in Brno. It's only about 90 minutes from Brno to Vienna.

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1) Former camp of Stuthoff is reachable by bus from Gdansk. Just in case you are interested in that part of WWII. You allocated 4 nights in Gdansk, that does sound about right.

2) Torun is famous for sweetbread and Mokolaj Kopernik. A full day in it is usually what most travel agents do, so I suppose it is enough to see the main sights.

3) Krakow 6 nights might be too excessive, but if you do 2 day trips (salt mines and Auschwitz) that does sound reasonable. At this time in your itinerary you will probably need some downtime too.

4) Brno 2 nights is one day? Castle and Austerlitz? It might be packed but doable. Will you be driving to Austerlitz?

5) How long in Vienna for you and your daughter?

Some parts of your itinerary might call for a rented car, some might be better on an organized tour. Have you considered these modes of logistics yet?

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pln -other than the Schindler museum being crowded, what did you think of it? Thanks for the recommendation for the St Mary Co-Cathedral, I really appreciate it! I have considered the Emigration museum, wondering if I should prioritize it if my family isn't from that area?

Dave - I've looked at Crazy Guides for Nowa Huta and am definitely leaning that way! Eager to hear how you spend 7 nights in Brno. Sounds fun. I would like to make a dedicated Czechia trip "someday." Full disclosure, Fred is the one who suggested Austerlitz for my daughter and it sounds like the train schedules or routes make it easier than when he went.
For the Vienna concerts, I'm looking at
Conductor Herbert Blomstedt
Vienna Philharmonic Franz Schubert Symphony No. 7 in B Minor, D. 759 (“Unfinished”) Anton Bruckner Symphony No. 7 in E Major, WAB 107
and Chamber Music in the Brahms-Saal (I love Chamber Music):
Fanny Cäcilie Mendelssohn Bartholdy String quartet E-flat major
Ludwig van Beethoven String Quartet in F minor, op. 95 "Quartetto serioso"
Peter Iljitsch Tschaikowsky Piano Trio in A minor, op. 50

considering these concerts as being appealing enough to shift our trip dates to accomodate them.

Frank II - thank you! Yeah, it's not a ton of time in Brno. The Napoleon connection would be the main thing we're planning on there.

Kootah - thank you for the Stutoff recommendation. I'm sure we'd enjoy more time in Torun that just a stop but I can't let this inflate into a month long trip, either.
For Brno and Austerlitz, I'm planning on a small group day-tour experience. Not planning on driving anywhere. If we miss the castle, we miss the castle. I edited my original post and I'm planning on 4 nights Vienna.

Thanks! These are helpful, specific suggestions and I do appreciate them.

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Krakow

The question wasn't pitched to me 🙂, but I thought the Schindler Museum was great. As you may know, the museum deals with Krakow's experience of WWII. Visitors do get to see Schindler's office as set up during WWII. Nearby is the Pharmacy Under the Eagle, a corner pharmacy in the Warsaw Ghetto run by Roman Catholic Polish pharmacist Tadeusz Pankeiwicz, one of Yad Vashem's Righteous Among the Nations. A worthwhile read at some point over the next year: Pankiewicz's The Krakow Ghetto Pharmacy, a short book detailing his experience of the ghetto and what he saw from pharmacy's windows.

Yay! Crazy Guides tour. I think it will be a nice mother-daughter experience.

I have many trip reports on this forum. Krakow? Check. There was that time I got kissed my a man at 4 am on Krakow's main square.

When you see the price of Crazy Guide's Deluxe Communist Tour in 2018, you will see how the cost of travel in Poland has changed over the last 8 years. If I had a child, it would still be worth it to do the tour at the current price.

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Brno

Ah, it makes sense that Fred would point you in that direction. He loves his European history. I met up with him in Berlin once. Our activity? Going to a cemetery where he taught me about all the people buried there. During COVID, we began having long phone conversations about European history and travel. Good guy.

I will offer you a private guide for Austerlitz, too. Feel free to do it on your own, of course, but sometimes a good guide is rather helpful when looking at battlefields and war memorials to give context. Helena Svedova has good reviews and offers what appears to be a nice, efficient tour of the sites that includes transportation between sites. I'm not doing the Austerlitz tour with her; I'm doing the full-day version of this trip with her. I can give feedback about her after that tour in October. (Edit: I missed that you were planning to do a small-group tour. That works, too!).

One of my favorite YouTube channels is the Honest Guide, done by two guys in Prague. If you haven't found that channel and/or the Brno videos with hints for off-the-beaten-path experiences (though pretty much everything in Brno is off the beaten path), here they are:

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Vienna

Oh my. That Vienna Philharmonic performance looks excellent. I would definitely go for that. I like Bruckner a lot. The chamber music performance in the Brahms Saal at the Musikverien looks very good, too. I agree with you. I would consider those concerts appealing enough to shift the dates of your trip.

I like the Augarten a lot for a late afternoon/early evening stroll. There are little garden plots for the locals, large open grassy fields for relaxing, much room to walk and Flaktürme (enormous anti-aircraft towers from WWII that were too large and stout to try to blow up). It's a good place to see Viennese being Viennese. Nearby is the Prater, an area of amusements that includes the Riesenrad (Ferris Wheel) that was in the film The Third Man.

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Dave- thanks for all the suggestions! So glad you've gotten to visit Krakow before. Thanks for the book suggestion, too. My husband and daughter bought me a 2 volume Polish history set for Christmas and I'm working on those, too. Oh I know prices have gone up. 8 years ago I wasn't doing any travel. Our first family vacation was in 2021 (driving to the next state though to be fair it was a good destination).

Thanks for the tour guide suggestion for Austerlitz, too! I'll look at that. And then I found 2 guided group tours, too. Just need to decide.

Should I think I have a good chance for getting tickets for the Vienna concerts? I signed up for email alerts for when the tickets go on sale. I'll look up those Honest Guide videos, too.

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You probably will include this anyway, but in Nowa Huta, be sure to visit the Arka Pana church after reading about its origins. Seeing it and the river pebble cladding placed by locals moved me to tears.

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When I was in Vienna, I landed a ticket for the Spanish Riding School to see the training for the dancing white horses. I had a gallery ticket as it was a) the cheapest b) still available on the day. I cried during the event- it was so beautiful.

I spent a week in Brno a few years ago. It was my base for taking trains and buses to visit other interesting towns. I took a train to see the Punkva Caves. It was amazing. The town of Mikulov has a castle where Napoleon stayed after the Battle of Austerlitz.

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I think you have a great chance at getting tickets for the chamber orchestra and a good chance at getting tickets to the Vienna Philharmonic event. i would suggest being on the purchase websites for both at the moment sales open, just to be sure. If you don't get an initial ticket, there should be some sort of wait list. Austrians are great about returning tickets they do not plan to use, so you can end up getting tickets closer to the concert if you don't get them initially.

Is your 2-volume history of Poland God's Playground by Norman Davies? In the fateful year of 2020, I had a 3-week trip through Poland planned, and I had been reading Polish history for around a year before the planned departure date, including Davies' tome at the recommendation of Fred, as I recall. Several of us on the forum were headed to Poland in 2020, and we started a thread where we shared what we were reading and watching: https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/books-movies/poland-reading-and-viewing.

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Jennie - thank you for the Arka Pana church recommendation.

Kootah - thanks! Mikulov might have to be another trip (probably will). I would like to visit more of Czechia another time. I checked the Spanish Riding School but they don't have any availiability for our dates.

Dave - thanks for that link with all the Polish books! That is great! And yes, it's God's Playground. Too bad there are typos in volume 2. Those really distract and bother me, unfortunately. I've read Michener's Poland several times. I know I've mentioned this on other threads, but I was in Poland for about 2 weeks each, 1998 and 2002. I have the DVD the Pianist but not the book. I know this is a different thread, but one of my favorite books is The Endless Steppe. Autobiographical account of a young girl whose family is exiled to Siberia for being Captitalists. They lived in Poland although it's now the capital of Lithuania. It's written for probably upper middle school interest but I've given it to my mom, my mother in law, and recommended it to so many people.

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pbscd -- Thanks for the book recommendation! I'll look into it.

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My wife and I stayed 5 nights in Vienna in 2025, and 5 nights in Krakow in 2017, visiting most of the sites you list. Our trip reports might be useful reference.

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Thanks Geoff! I had read your Vienna and Bavaria report earlier but hadn't seen your Krakow , Wroclaw report before. What site or sites did you use to search for apartments? I don't know what we're going to do for lodging.

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What site or sites did you use to search for apartments?

Hi. I searched many sites. For Poland (2017) we rented from places we found on VRBO (Krakow) and Booking.com (Wroclaw).
For Vienna (2025) we rented an AirBNB. For the rest of our stays during the 2025 trip we rented directly (often after finding on Booking.com), through Booking.com, or through AirBNB.

I envy your upcoming trip!

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Geoff, or anyone else, do you have a sense regarding Airbnb use in Poland if it's pretty ok? I know it's sure frowned upon in Paris, London, and Amsterdam or at least I've read about it pricing out locals from apartments and I don't want to do that.