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Why is Romania never added to the list of countries here?

Romania is one of the most fascinating countries in Europe and certainly at least on a par with others listed here such as Hungary, Slovakia, Bulgaria. Rick Steves even did a TV show on it once which you can probably find on You Tube.

Also Albania is wonderful varied destination with great welcoming people. And it's a true budget option which is hard to find in Europe now. I understand though that Albania is kind of obscure, but Romania is an important country with lots of historical and cultural significance.

Posted by
16941 posts

You will find that the countries represented on this forum are also countries his tours visit.

Posted by
89 posts

Maybe that makes business sense (though debatable) but it seems like a glaring omission to leave out Romania.

Posted by
426 posts

You can send a note to the webmaster and request it. Good luck! Sounds like a good idea.

Please note: the country list in this forum does not match only those countries he has tours to. There are many countries represented for which his tours do not travel.

Happy Travels!

Posted by
6957 posts

To answer your question:

This forum is a legacy of an earlier time, when the business was more focused on independent travelers, teaching them skills, helping them connect to one another and to the places they wanted to go. Nowadays, the business is more focused on leading tours, so the forum structure reflects that to a great extent. Though there's still a nod towards independent travelers and meeting their needs (and the freedom to discuss places where the company has no tours), that's not what pays the bills.

The forum doesn't pay any bills, it's actually a cost, not a profit center. So investing more money in the forum is not a priority. (Yes, the business certainly gains some benefit from the forum, in terms of eyeballs and potential conversions to paying customers, but they have plenty of other ways to get attention.) You'll notice - no ads.

The forum software (it's a custom setup, not an off-the-shelf product) was written long ago, and is only updated occasionally in small ways (updating custom built software is not cheap or easy). The forum operates on a shoestring budget. So we all need to manage our expectations: this is not a huge multinational corporation with assets to burn, it's still (even after all its successes) a fairly small, local business.

There are LOTS of "anomalies" here (there are separate "country" listings for England, Scotland and Wales, but none for the UK; Estonia is listed, but next-door neighbors and fellow EU members Latvia and Lithuania are missing; Bulgaria is there but as you pointed out, Romania is AWOL...along with more than a few other European nations...where's Malta? Cyprus? The Balkans and all the post-Yugoslavia nations are not well represented. What one might define as "European Edge Cases" - Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Armenia? Georgia?...they're "beyond the edge" and assumed to be lumped into "Beyond Europe" along with Yellowstone and Easter Island). Features that one takes for granted elsewhere are absent (there's no way to display a photo in your post, and no way to "ignore" or mute an annoying user - gawd, I'd give up a lot for that feature... I'm sure many would love to use it on me...). But the forum has been around for a long, long time and serves its core users surprisingly well, even with its lack of completeness and acknowledged limitations.

It is what it is. So stop expecting a high degree of consistency, keep your hopes in check, and appreciate that it's here, it's ad-free, most spam gets wiped by lunchtime the next business day Pacific time. It's not grossly over-moderated or ruled by bots (looking at you, TA...). And there's a large community of knowledgeable, friendly, and helpful users, longtime experienced travelers and enthusiastic noobs. Bottom line: it's not perfect (what is?) but it's still around and still kicking, lets hope it outlives the inevitable next business cycle cost-cutting and "efficiency" zealots, and continues to be a very useful resource long into the uncertain future.

Posted by
15322 posts

It is indeed " an important country with lots of historical and cultural significance." In terms of real estate too as it includes Transylvania and controls the mouths of the Danube. I have had always pleasant and enlightening conversations with ethnic Rumanians and the minorities in that country, ie Bulgarians from the Dobruja....always an interesting topic historically.

Posted by
1603 posts

There aren’t many platforms that just forums at all anymore. Most businesses that tried it on the early days of the internet have shut them down because do the problems with moderating and managing them. It really feels like this place is a relic of the past (in a nice way) and when the internet was thought of as a place for good.

Posted by
5120 posts

All I have to add is I asked this same question about a year ago. While I understand the answers you have gotten, I am in full sympathy with the question.

On that thread, which I haven’t stopped to try to find, the webmaster weighed in with some of the logic involved in not adding additional forums - even beyond the purely practical reasons mentioned in other answers here. I am not where I can easily search right now, but finding that thread might help with understanding the reasons.

Edit: here it is. https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/general-europe/webmaster-would-it-be-possible-to-add-albania

Posted by
8174 posts

Little by little, more countries have gotten their own listing on this Travel Forum. Those that aren’t individually categorized still have this General Europe category for questions and answers.

Rick Steves’ current Central Europe guidebook has well over 100 pages for Hungary, 33 pages for Slovakia (actually, it strictly covers only Bratislava), 23 pages for Bulgaria, and 30 pages for Romania. But that’s his book, not his Website’s Travel Forum.

Posted by
3645 posts

Same request to list Latvia and Lithuania. Estonia as third Baltic is already.

Posted by
426 posts

Thanks to TravelTexasMom, I followed her link and posted the Webmaster’s response below:
[Reading between the lines, I suspect those folks at RS are afraid of Vampires and this is all a cover story]
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Posted by Webmaster
Edmonds, WA, USA
09/23/24 02:52 PM
1051 posts

Hello, this question comes up a few times each year. I know it isn't obvious, but the countries that have their own sections in our forum reflect what we cover in the Explore Europe section of our website, which in turn reflects areas we cover in our guidebooks.
General Europe is meant to be the catch-all for European countries that don't have their own section.
We learned when we expanded the forum 10 years ago that over-expansion is a thing. It does no good to create a new section if it doesn't have enough life to it. More people will see it and answer questions for Albania, Romania, etc, if it's posted in a place that gets a lot of eyeballs like General Europe.
Moderation capacity is not a limitation. Aka, we're not making decisions to limit engagement. Quite the opposite. And while it's quite easy for me to add a new section, retraction of a section (due to lack of engagement) is quite difficult. As such, we need to feel reasonably assured that a new forum section can be successful before we add it.
Cheers!

Posted by
1214 posts

Well said, webmaster. General Europe covers all, gets eyeballs, and is sufficient.