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New York Times Travel Section

The NYT is putting its Travel Section "on hold," for a while. It will be replaced by a new section called "At Home."

Sounds like a joke, but it isn't.

We take the Sunday Times, and the Travel section is the one I always reach for first.

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I don't see that in the digital daily version of the paper (https://www.nytimes.com/section/travel). They are still publishing articles pretty much daily or a bit less, including this excerpt:

"With travel restrictions in place worldwide, we’ve launched a new series — The World Through a Lens — in which photojournalists transport you, virtually, to some of our planet’s most beautiful and intriguing places. This week, Robert Presutti shares a collection of photographs from a convent in the Samtskhe-Javakheti region of Georgia."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/travel/a-glimpse-inside-the-secluded-world-of-a-georgian-convent.html

It seems like they are adapting to a new reality fairly well and staying relevant. I do expect there could be fewer articles partly because on-the-ground reporting is not possible now. But there will be plenty of room for speculation about what travel will look like in the future, and any developments with easing of restrictions worldwide.

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It probably has to do with a dearth of advertising for travel right now.

When travel-related companies start advertising again, the section will for sure come back.

I used to be a magazine writer, and I will never forget hearing the editor of a business magazine that was roaring during the dot-com era, "We need more articles to keep the ads from rubbing against each other!"

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Agnes, we get the print edition. The notice of the change came in my email account, titled "Changes to your Sunday Times."

Dear Reader, This weekend we are introducing At Home, a new print
section of The New York Times. It is devoted to the belief that we can
live rich lives at home even while we are quarantined during the
coronavirus pandemic, even while we are maintaining social distance
from one another, even while we begin the slow, unsteady steps toward
reopening our cities and states, our world.

At Home is meant to
bring art and beauty into your home, along with health, style,
deliciousness and a little bit of fun. The section will bring you
games and virtual voyages, tips for beauty and fitness, easy recipes
to cook. It will look at what’s happening in the night skies, and at
paintings in virtual museums. It has things to say about childcare and
self-care, and about what to watch and listen to. It will help you
organize your space. It will encourage you to read poetry and fiction,
to draw and to make. We hope it will be of service as we navigate
together how best to live full lives in a difficult time.

At Home will replace, temporarily, our print Travel section, which
will return
after the coronavirus pandemic has eased, and Sports Sunday will move
into the first section of the newspaper, also temporarily. (Travel
news will continue to run in other print sections of The Times,
including At Home.) We are, all of us, eager to hear from you as we
get underway. Please let us know how and what you’re doing at home:
athome@nytimes.com.

Sincerely, Sam Sifton Assistant Managing Editor for culture and
lifestyle news

The New York Times

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If you really like that section, consider getting the digital subscription. It's much, much less expensive than print (my Mom gets the print edition and I don't think I could get her to switch even though it would save her quite a bit of $). I am paying $4 per month based on a special I took advantage of.

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Agnes, I know the digital edition is much much cheaper, but my DH is addicted to print. And so am I, for that matter.

But thanks.

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It wouldn’t be Sunday without the NYTimes print edition,

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An po their way things have been modified due to current situations. Another reason it will be good to have the pandemic over, to get the Times Travel section back to its regular state, aside from people not getting sick, and even dying.

May the replacement offerings get everyone they in the meantime. I hope getting At Home while at home works, for now.

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Jane, I am pretty sure that print subscribers also have access to the digital edition. You might check on that.

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Laura , yes that is so . Digital subscription is gratis with the print subscription .

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Suki, it takes us all week to get through the Sunday Times! :-)

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I remember my working years in the theater district , when at intermission in a show , I could dash across the street to the Times building ( they were still on forty fourth street then ) and get the city edition of the Sunday Times on Saturday night . The loading dock , where you could grab a copy , is just opposite Shubert Alley . After grabbing my car , I would stop uptown at 80th and Broadway at Zabar's for bagels and smoked fish . On the way home to White Plains , I was then appropriately armed for Sunday morning . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shubert_Alley

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I like the Travel section even though I can seldom afford what they write about. Its suspension is probably related to lack of advertising, at least in print.

BTW, I used to be addicted to the print version, but I switched to digital and never looked back -- no delivery problems, no ink-stained hands, nothing to recycle. It's free with a print subscription, and much cheaper by itself. If you subscribe in print, it's worth checking out. As our fearless leader has said in another context, what have you got to lose? ;-)

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I think the economics of the news business has been appended even further with COVID, so they're probably trying to "economize" and cut some corners on the print editions which likely require print advertising that has dissipated away. I don't know why either NYT or WSJ still showcases a Mansion section, which is really tone-deaf right now to a sizable base of their readership. The very high-net worth folks will have their multi-million dollar real estate deals go through, COVID or not. But the rest of the readership (I think) couldn't care less right now about luxury real estate listings, although they'd be interested when the market will pick up again and what the future trends will be. In many ways, travel is a lot less relevant now too since it's effectively at a standstill, whether we want to admit it or not.

I agree, give the digital version a try. I didn't think I'd like it as much as I do. I find the print edition font so small as to be barely readable. And the amount of paper generated is insane. I especially like to read viewer comments, which I couldn't do on the print edition. Often, the comments are as good/valuable as the articles themselves. And the (often interactive) graphics and info graphs on the digital edition are really superb.

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Jane, a friend of mine who writes from time to time for the NYT travel section posted that too on her Facebook. Apparently the same is the case for the Sports section as well.

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Kim, you're right, but since we're supposed to stick to posts about travel ... ;-)

And both changes are supposed to be temporary.

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Some of my fondest memories were Sunday mornings with the New York Times, bagels, lox and cream cheese. The family would argue over who gets which section.

Later, the paper got so big half was delivered on Saturday and the other on Sunday. Art and Leisure, Section 2, would come out on Saturday and my friends and I would see what concerts were being announced and decide whether or not we had to drive into Manhattan early the following morning to get in line for tickets. This was in the day before "online".

How many remember searching for "Nina's"?

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So if you read one section in the living room, and then move to the kitchen to read another section, does that count as travel?

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Frank , they still deliver it that way , the main sections on Saturday , front section and week in review on Sunday . Since I'm retired , my driveway is where I pick it up . The bagels and lox are also still there , and of course , whitefish salad too . Always did count the " Ninas " , but since Al is gone now , memories are all that's left , plus a theater poster he did . For those of us who don't know about " Nina " https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Hirschfeld

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Frank II and Steven: The current editorial cartoonist of the Tulsa World, Bruce Plante, also has a daughter named Nina. And yes, her name always appears embedded in his cartoons. Or so it is said... At least twice I couldn't find it.

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Good morning Jane ! Here are two of Bruce Plante's works with " Ninas " - This one , is in Robin Hood's feather - https://www.planteink.com/cartoon/plante20200421/ This one , in the head cover of the nurse - https://www.planteink.com/cartoon/plante20200422/ By the way , This is the Hirschfeld " Counter Culture " , his play on words title , showing Zabar's in NYCity in 1971 . https://www.mutualart.com/Artwork/The-Counter-Culture-at-Zabar-s/16558EFC53288367 In those days the store was open until 2 AM on Saturday nights for die hard lox addicts . This article in the Times is about the place . A nostalgic photo at the head of the piece , Jerry Sze , who sliced fish for us for thirty five years - https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/09/nyregion/a-high-holy-call-for-lox-and-old-hands-to-slice-it-at-zabars.html

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it takes us all week to get through the Sunday Times!

I think I only got the print edition a couple of times, and yes, it took the whole week to get through. For the last 20 years I've only gotten the digital edition.

get the city edition of the Sunday Times on Saturday night .

When most of my family lived in NYC many years ago, we would get the Sunday NY Daily News late Saturday night at the corner store. Although my uncle was a white color professional, he preferred the blue collar Daily News.

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How fun! I hadn’t realized that Bruce Plante did Ninas too!!

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If the Sunday Times, which I used to get on Saturday night off the truck in Harvard Square, is still a huge massive great big lump of newsprint that used to be I wonder if that could really be sustained in this day of trying to save trees and paper. It seems to me that all the coated paper which is hard to recycle would mean that it was a little bit of a dinosaur.

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Nigel , The Times has lost a fair amount of bulk over the last twenty or so years . Some sections of the Sunday paper are no longer printed - Classified Adverts , Estate Agent Adverts , a weekly television schedule , a few others as well . The paper does increase in size in November and December due to holiday printed advertising , but generally I can carry it with one hand nowadays . Also most of it is printed on recyclable paper , which is an improvement . In some respects , the digital edition is a big improvement in some respects - A recent link I posted about Rockefeller Center ( Beyond Europe } was far better online , in that it contained a surfeit of color photographs which look much better on an HD screen than on newsprint https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/beyond-europe/rockefeller-center-new-york-city Also , the post about Leroy Anderson ( below ) https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/general-europe/some-uplift-for-our-days contains direct links to the musical selections referred to in the article , which really does bring it into context . Finally , one of the best advantages of digital is that , sitting at the computer , I no longer have the paper errantly drifting into my coffee cup in the morning !

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So if you read one section in the living room, and then move to the kitchen to read another section, does that count as travel?

depends. How strict is the border collie...er guard? Show me ze treats

it's a good thing NYT did 52 places last year. One guy travels around the world for 52 weeks. That was an interesting piece. I think he got stuck in the Falklands(?) right near the end. The Mongolia piece was great too

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I have become a fan of the digital newspapers.

When they first were offered, I saw no reason to give up my paper copy. Several things finally pushed me away from the paper, mainly cost with a close second being that I traveled for work so much I would end up just tossing out the piles of paper unread when I returned home. I would end up reading the papers online while on my travel trips as that was included in the cost of the physical paper delivery.

When my local paper hit $100 a month (up from $18 only a couple years ago) for 7 day delivery, I first scaled back to only Sunday and Wednesday paper (Sunday for the color comics and travel, and Wednesday for the grocery adverts and coupons) with the other 5 days digital only at a significant savings. Since February this year I have gone completely digital and pay about 10% of the delivery charge for full online access to a pdf copy. I have really not missed the physical paper at all and there are no delivery issues like sometimes the paper just not showing up on my door step and having call for a replacement copy.

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In some places, if you have a library card (real or virtual), you can get the online versions of magazines and newspapers for free through the library's online portal.

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Yes, the Digital Editions are much more convenient in a lot of cases compared to the Paper ones. Not to mention much cheaper for the Newspapers to do.

I am a long time subscriber to the local Paper one but I'll have to give it up if they go all Digital like they seem to be about to do. I do not read DRM (Digital Rights Management) locked material on my Computer, which is where I'd read it. The various crap DRM companies have pulled in the last 10 years or so makes it that I don't trust any of them. Look up the Sony Rootkit fiasco for one of the worst examples of DRM. I don't think it would be that bad with a e-Paper but their interests are not my interests. And I wouldn't put it past them to do tracking of my interests (which parts are read, how long, etc) and selling the data to the many parties (mostly Ad people; not all) that would be interested.

No thank you.