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Intra-Schengen border control ...?

If memory serves, it seems the Schengen members can impose border checks/controls for 'emergency' situations. ( correct me please if I am in error and I will remove this)

Has anyone heard if this has come under discussion as the situation in Italy worsens?

Perhaps institute some sort of 'wellness' check as one exits ( or tries to exit) Italy.

Seeing this post---- https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/italy/4-mar-2020-rome-embassy-alert-from-step-state-gov -- got me wondering

There is the risk of getting sick and the other issue of getting stuck in some sort of quarantine.

At present there are no simple direct answers to "what should I do?", other than weigh ALL the factors

Good health to all!

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A "border check or control" is when they check somebody's ID (passport) to see if they are allowed into the country. Proving your ID does not stop a virus.

That is not a health check. If you have the right emergency quarantine regulations in place you can do this anywhere, that is precisely what the Italians are doing for the towns they have quarantined. It doesn't matter what your ID is, whether you are an Italian citizen or not, you aren't allowed out of the quarantine area. Nothing to do with border checks and nothing to do with Schengen, this is in the middle of a country.

And some countries have started doing temperature checks on all passengers flying in from certain countries.

I think what you are asking is are any countries doing health checks at land borders for people entering. So far no. And the Swiss have said it would be impractical on the Italian border, as 70,000 commuters cross from Italy into Switzerland every day, and back again in the evening.

That story Rab posted (here: https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/italy/4-mar-2020-rome-embassy-alert-from-step-state-gov ) sounds a little suspicious.
"The Government of Italy has implemented enhanced screening and quarantine measures to reduce the spread of COVID-19. As of 12:00 AM March 3, all passengers on U.S.-bound flights whose temperature is higher than 99.5 degrees Fahrenheit are not being permitted to board."
Why would the Italian government put checks in place for passengers TO USA? Perhaps the US-Americans would put checks on landing passengers, as many countries have. But why would the Italians be concerned about protecting one country, and not others?
And the Italians would definitely not put a limit at "99.5 degrees Fahrenheit". I don't think any hospital in Italy would have thermometers marked in °F.

He hasn't posted a link to the story. Without that I don't believe it.

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I am afraid some people foster a sense of false security that the spread of the virus can be contained to same areas - among them the unfortunate Italy. Epidemiological studies seem to conclude that there are multiple strains of the virus and from their relationship you understand it was working underground weeks before being spotted. What Italy is trying now is not stopping the virus, but delaying its spread to buy time for hospitals that are under severe pressure to treat a large number of people needing intensive care. But I am afraid the virus is already everywhere, and what Italy is experiencing now will be experienced in a lot of other places in due time.

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Chris F., here is the link to the Italian site to which the US Embassy site refers: Italy link I cant speak to its legitimacy.

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If memory serves, it seems the Schengen members can impose border checks/controls for 'emergency' situations. ( correct me please if I am in error

You are correct, Joe. France did this after the 2015 terror attacks.

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I read in two places today that Austria is introducing "spot" health checks at the border with Italy. Not sure if this is everybody being checked or only some.
This is not a "border checks/controls", it is a health check regardless of your ID so nothing to do with Schengen rules. Schengen countries are 100% entitled to do health checks in an emergency within their own territory.

One story here: https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/heute/an-der-grenze-zu-italien-oesterreich-fuer-gesundheitschecks-100.html
and here: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-austria/austria-introducing-spot-health-checks-at-italian-border-idUSKBN20T2RV

The Italian/Austrian border is a special case as it is mountainous with effectively only three crossing points, one of which is the Brenner Pass which is the main north-south route. All the traffic goes through these places and it is easy to check everyone.

The Italian/French border is similar with only about 10 Alpine crossings.

The Italian/Swiss border goes through populated areas, including built up areas, with about 70,000 commuters who go back and forth every day. Dozens of crossing points. Health checks on this border are impractical. It has however been announced (TV news today, Saturday) that all cross-border trains from Italy, including the Bernina route, are being disinfected at the end of each trip.
News video here: https://www.srf.ch/play/tv/srf-news/video/so-desinfiziert-die-rhaetische-bahn-ihre-zuege?id=4861ca93-fd66-446d-9cdb-b3ca523724c5