Geniral eruope

What passport are you using?

Im using a canadian passport

You say "I need to figure out when to go ...." Your post says you are leaving July 21 so I guess thaty's when you should go.

2 or 3 months is a big difference. Is it more likely to be 60 or 90 days?

But Norma

they also say

For tommorow land

so it may be for tomorrow and the july is wrong?

Like around 60 days should be enough no? Or maybe 75 days .

Tommorow land is july 27th till 29th and from then on i need help . Ilike site seaing . Nightlife-foodie-hikeing-

Referencing this previous thread from this poster might be helpful:

https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/general-europe/is-there-a-good-itenerary

"Tomorrowland" is a festival in Boom, Belgium:
https://www.tomorrowland.com/en/festival/welcome

avi.slutsky123, have you taken a look at any guidebooks for the locations on your list? That is usually the FIRST place you should start when planning a trip. Otherwise, how do you know where you should go in, say, Switzerland if you don't know what the individual cities and towns have to offer? Sightseeing? You can do that anywhere at ALL but you have to choose cities which offer the sorts of things to see that YOU enjoy. That's not really a list we can make for you, and 7-8 counties is covering a lot of ground.

Go to the bookshop and the library, get some guidebooks to look through and start making a list of places which in each country which appeal to you. Consider also how easy/time-consuming those locations are to reach via transport.

If you have not already done so, get some travel guide books for all of you proposed destinations and figure out what you want to see and do, and then you can decide where to go, how long to stay and what to do.

With what you have provided, I think it would be easier to answer the question, 'how high is up?"

The reason people are asking what passport and for how long is that as a non-EU citizen you are limited to 90 days in any 180 in the Schengen Area. The Schengen Area includes all the countries you list, except Croatia. But, as you are now saying "60 to 75 days" you will be within the limit.

You first need to decide where in each country you want to visit, based on your personal preferences. Do you like cities, countryside, history or what. AS others say, this will involve reading guide books. Then, once you have decide where you want to visit, print out a map of Europe, mark the places. join the dots and you have a plan.

Second problem is a budget. Flight + accommodation x 60-75 days + food x 60-75 days + travel within Europe (local and between destinations) + other expenses (entrance fees, luxuries, shopping) could add up to a large amount of money.

avi,

It would help to have more information on your trip plans. For example......

• what type of budget are you working with?
• are you planning to stay in Hotels, Hostels, or a combination of the two?
• is this your first trip to Europe?
• how are you planning to get from place-to-place?
• you've mentioned quite a number of countries - which cities in those countries are you mainly interested in?

If this is your first trip, I'd highly recommend reading Europe Through The Back Door as that will give you a lot of good information on "how" to travel well in Europe. After that use the country of city-specific guidebooks to plan sightseeing, etc. in each place you'll be visiting. I really like the Rick Steves guidebooks, but there are others. You should be able to find copies at your local Library.

As Chris mentioned, you'll be limited to no more than 90 days in the Schengen zone, and that includes your arrival and departure days.

Which part of Canada are you flying from? It would be a good idea to use "open-jaw" flights for best efficiency. Having to return to your starting city uses both time and money, so not always the best.

Good luck with your planning!

Hi,

If you can take a 75 day trip as opposed to one of 60 days, take the 75 day, all things considered. In August those hotels in Germany and Austria that offer low rates will do so. Two hotels in Vienna, a three star and a 4 star, have told me that, ie when to expect their cheapest rates.

If you don't mind going at peaking season, the summer, (I don't) do it. Going then has its advantages and disadvantages, it all depends on what not willing to cope with.

In Poland you can try to not omit Cracow, Lublin, Warsaw, Gdańsk, Szczecin, Poznań and Wrocław with their areas. For the rest the best could be Masurian Lake District.

The only Polish city listed above where I have not been to, not passing through on the train, is Lublin. All the others are well worth visiting, Krakow, Warsaw, Gdansk, where i spent 4-5 days each there. Apart from Lublin at the others, eg Poznan, I transferred trains or passed through. . Choosing between Lublin and Wroclaw over the Masurian Lakes, no contest ...the Masurian Lakes wins

@ avi....With the exception of Amsterdam, the rest of your proposed general itinerary esp within a period of 60-75 days lends itself to using EN night trains...very easy to do, if you intend to go to Munich and Budapest for sure. These two cities are night train hubs which you ought to take advantage of, ie, it gives you more travel days and more options.

"...when to go and how long...." Choose starting from May to July, or June to August.

Please reference the poster's previous itinerary (linked in my previous post)?
Obviously some thought went into that schedule.

Avi, you had received some advice on your initial plan but don't appear to have incorporated any of that into a NEW plan? I'm unsure why? Your initial plan also noted specific cities you wanted to visit versus your question here about entire countries.

I'm guessing you are new to travel forums? Creating an itinerary from scratch for 8-9 countries is much too big a task to be left to "volunteers" like ourselves. It would work much better if you'd publish a tentative plan, as you did before, and altered that based on feedback. Attempting to cover as much ground as you're wishing to, for as long as you're planning to, is going to involve many, many details and decisions that others can't make for you, and cost a considerable amount of money.

If this is your first time traveling abroad, you might want to simplify things by going to fewer places, for a shorter time, and saving the rest for a future trip?

@ avi...Since you have not determined the length of the trip, I am going to assume you have 75 days or close to it and that this trip is your first. As such, skip Amsterdam, Switzerland, fly into in Amsterdam, depart from Frankfurt.

Stay one night in Amsterdam, ie to rest up if you need it, or leave within a couple of hours to Belgium or Germany by train. .

Focus the trip on Germany, Belgium, Austria, Poland, Budapest, Prague. All this can done if you don't preclude the night train option to gain more time, since they are capitals of these central European countries here are all night train stops.

Keep in mind that having the 75 days gives you "down time" to relax, depending your travel priorities and planning logistically. The longest duration I've had recently is 67 days. If I only had 75! With the 75 days you have, presumably, I know exactly what I would do/visit in Poland, Prague, Germany, Belgium and Austria, using all transport options, buses, day and night trains. It's all a matter of your travel interests and priorities, what you are willing to track down.

@ avi...If you are sure to have 75 days, then stick to visiting 6-7 countries. Select the cities and stick to the itinerary. If I had that time length of 75 days, I would exactly where to go, what to see, which cities (Prague, Brussels, Berlin, Munich, Hamburg, Leipzig, Budapest, Vienna, Salzburg, Linz, ) If you want towns as oppose to capitals and cities, I can recommend numerous of them to you too.