EES starting November 10 (Update Sept. 29)

And here is the official information: https://travel-europe.europa.eu/ees_en

Officially 10 November is still an "intent" date awaiting official sign off- it depends which press article you read as to how precise the wording is. There is still a possibility it could be pushed out a further week depending on whether all Schengen airports are ready for implementation, the articles I am reading suggest some French airports may not meet the 10 November date.

Personally I doubt whether it is just French airports which may or may not have a problem.

That is presumably why the official web site does not yet give a precise start date.

This might help:

https://schengen.news/eu-confirms-official-entry-exit-system-launch-date/

An exerpt:

In a speech at eu-LISA, the European Commissioner for Home Affairs, Ylva Johansson, revealed that the EES would enter into operation on November 10, 2024, Schengen.News reports.

Even though it was previously announced by multiple media platforms that November 10 would be the launch date of the EES, this is the first time that the EU has officially confirmed its implementation date and set a target day.

Does anyone know how this will affect and/or integrate with Germany's EasyPASS?

EasyPASS is a recprocal agreement between US and Germany to provide Global Entry access to German citizens and EasyPASS to US citizens with Global Entry. I have recently enrolled in Global Entry and planned to get EasyPASS on my next visit to Germany.

@jkh-

From the Easypass website-

With the introduction of the European Union's Entry/Exit System (EES), the framework conditions for the EasyPASS Registered Traveller Programme (RTP) are changing. Therefore, re-registration of existing participants is generally required at this time.
Participants from the Republic of Korea and Taiwan are exempt from this, as the reciprocity agreements as well as the participation examinations already take the corresponding contents into account. Participants from the United States of America and the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China can re-register at a Federal Police registration office at EasyPASS locations as early as 3 July 2023. This allows users to continue enjoying the benefits of participating in EasyPASS-RTP without interruption with the introduction of the EES.

These being the 8 locations concerned- https://www.easypass.de/EasyPass/EN/Where_do_I_find_EasyPASS/where_do_i_find_easypass_node.html

So it sounds as if it will still work side by side with EES.

I wish they would provide an easy way get your passport stamped in and out. It's probably the single bit of the entry/exit process that I enjoy - the "thunk" of the stamp being added :D

I feel like every trip I take has been more and more streamlined since COVID (and maybe starting before). Other than the fiasco that always seems to greet us when departing from AMS (not sure why Schiphol is so screwy), our times in and through immigration are getting shorter and shorter. I love it, but maybe not at the expense of a passport stamp!

The EES information in a few articles states the non-EU (and others not exempt) traveler’s biometric data is used at the external border of countries that will be using EES. Does this mean each time crossing a land border or only at the entry and exit border points flying into Europe? Face scanning and fingerprinting for tracking and more information for hackers to find is not ideal situation. It might feel easier to get through the airport or border lines while there is another side of this to consider.

I wish they would provide an easy way get your passport stamped in and out. It's probably the single bit of the entry/exit process that I enjoy - the "thunk" of the stamp being added :D

Hmmm. Sounds like a business opportunity.

donh2 - this is for external borders, as in entering Schengen. There are no passport checks passing between Schengen countries, these are internal borders. And it is the same idea as entering the UK, electronic verification and Face ID, just as when re-entering the US at most entry points. There is no need for the passport stamp to prove anything, as the system has the information if any examination is required.

"the 'thunk' of the passport stamp being added." Exactly.

The trip last summer and this past one I just lucked out when returning to SFO, both Immigration Agents said they themselves had no stamp when I asked them but their adjacent colleague did and, thankfully , they obliged me by giving me what I wanted, the "Readmit" stamp. Just lucked out in not having to encounter some stickler telling me , "we don't stamp anymore." What else is new?

Larry - What you stated is what I was thinking; however, I did not assume anything when the rules change and description. By the way, I traveled into the U.K. from Amsterdam on Eurostar this year in February and there was a Passport check and no biometrics with face scan. Maybe they already had it from some other source. There definitely was not fingerprinting like they will do starting November 10th. I may make a personal decision about traveling after November 10th.

Face scan and finger printing is brand new on Eurostar. Additional space is being created at St Pancras, (also at the Port of Dover, where a marina has been infilled) for the new procedures.

If I am already visiting in an EU and Schengen country before November 10, 2024, will I need to get fingerprinted and give biometrics while already there and then traveling back to the U.S. within 90 days? I know I would get fingerprinted if entering on or after November 10.

I have a brand new passport issued last November. Arrived at LHR Sept 1 and MXP Sept 5 with no passport stamps, just E-Gate scans. Unless I travel somewhere other than Europe (not in the plans) my passport may remain pristine. For some reason my husband ended up with a stamp at MXP.

FYI, here's a bit more detail about who is required to have their info entered into the EES system.

Travelers will need to scan their passports or other travel document at a self-service kiosk each time they cross an EU external border. It will not apply to legal EU citizens or residents or those with long-stay visas.

Form to get German Easy Pass : Form

I like the stamps for countries also. But I have done so much traveling, mostly in Europe that I was starting to wonder what happens if I have no more space. So for those fortunate to trave as frequently as I have,it may be a benefit.

In case anyone wants to get the German EasyPass, which may or may not be worth it now that EES will actually be up and running. 2 years ago it was definitely worthwhile when I was transiting 6x a year through Germany! Note - You have to exit security and find the office in order to apply, here are directions for FRA. https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/general-europe/how-to-get-an-easy-pass-multiple-entry-for-schengen-in-germany

Update..... Germany, France and the Netherlands have told the EU that they may not be ready to implement the EES system on Nov 10. (That's six weeks away.)

Those three countries will make up 40% of the people affected by EES.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/17/eu-fingerprint-and-facial-recognition-checks-expected-to-be-delayed-again

Germany, Holland, and France not ready by 10 Nov.....bravo !

Then one can presumably still get one's passport stamped in those 3 countries until such time. It remains to be seen if their personnel will honor a request to stamp the passport ...I'll certainly ask for that.

My current passport has run its 10 year course as it expires in April of 2025.

My last trip of a week in France in Sept (the United airfare was too good to pass up from SFO and still 7 months out for entry in Schengen), therefore got its last 3 stamps, two at CDG arr./dep, very obliging on the part of the French personnel , not just perfunctory on stamping the passport, and likewise in SFO where the Immigration Officer was surprisingly also very obliging with the "Admit" stamp.

The whole EES system is now confirmed as NOT starting on 10 November.

It is again deferred with no current alternative date currently in place-https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgey0vvxxw7o

This can be expected to also delay the ETIAS coming into force next year.