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Rolling Trip Report - Italy with 2 Teens

Thanks to everyone for the advice they share on the Forum! I mined it well in preparing for our trip to Italy this summer. Posting a rolling trip report as train rides allow…

DH, me and 2 teens traveled to Italy in late June / early July to see Rome, Venice and the Dolomites.

Rome: We had a nice time but also a lot of frustration with trying to use both taxis and public transportation - buses that just inexplicably did not show up, Google maps not being well integrated with what was actually happening on the ground, couple taxis scamming us by telling us there was a flat fare rate within the city for certain destinations (but not having enough spare time to make a tour slot to waste on getting out and waiting for an honest taxi driver), missing a train stop as the stop had zero signs at it, etc. I’ve traveled to a decent number of spots in Europe and not had such challenges with moving around as I did here.

That said, here’s what we did in Rome: We stayed at Little Queen Pantheon B&B which was 2 blocks from the Pantheon & a lovely little spot (beautiful room & very good AC level).

1) Vatican visit at 4:00 Friday - we skipped out on our tour and just saw what we wanted at the pace we wanted. Contrary to Rick’s advice I saw no signs for “Corso Breve” and so we had to just follow where most people were going. It was crowded for sure. Glad we ditched our tour - kids (and DH) would not have had the patience for it.

2) St Peter’s - got in line about 5:30 Friday and it was SUPER long but we were in by about 6. Dinner at Il Marchese which was very good.

3) Santa Marinella beach - day tripped here Sat. We went to the Angeletto beach club. It was almost all Italians - although they did have signs in English too - and the owners were nice + good food at the restaurant. Four lounges and 2 umbrellas ran us 56 Euros. Water was very clear although the sea bottom had some of the local sea life plant growth on it. Not glamourous but quite nice and the kids enjoyed riding scooters down to it (note you need to check the scooter park zones carefully - nearest one is about 3 blocks up from the beach).

4) Later Sat - Popped into Pantheon with timed tickets. Line was decently long for those without tickets at 6. Dinner at Marco Martini to try a Michelin star spot in Italy - pricy but absolutely delicious and delightful.

5) Sun - Colossseum/ Palatine / Forum tour with Roman Guy. I’d recommend them - our guide Stefano was very good. We did not roll the dice on the underground tickets; we bought the arena floor ones originally but they ended up not able to snag those and refunded us a bit to put us on the regular tour. Lunch at a really delightful spot two blocks back from the Pantheon that was actually good (unlike almost anywhere else within blocks of the Pantheon) - Osteria Pizzeria di Agrippa (had plenty of non-pizza options too).

6) Train ride to Venice - half our group did a longer Italo ride a few days ago. This time we took Trenitalia. Having done both I’d recommend Italo - our AC in a Trenitalia salottino never worked and they didn’t really care about this.

Venice…Stayed at Hotel Rosa Salva which is about 3 blocks from St Mark’s square and had a huge, lovely family room with good A/C.

1) Did Row Venice which was a very memorable experience. Good to have 4 of us so each took breaks from the taxing rowing.

2) Did St Mark’s and Doge’s Palace. Definitely glad we went in the former; honestly I would say the latter felt skippable to me.

3) Wandered a lot - but too much! We were meandering in one of the areas with poor bridge connectivity so kept getting stuck and looped back to the same area. :) Would recommend having a general idea of the bridge connectivity if you’re in one of the further out zones for aimless exploring.

Dolomites…

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Sounds like a good trip so far.

Just curious re the unscrupulous taxis - did you engage them at a taxi stand? Outside major tourist sites? Were you using one of the apps - FreeNow or itTaxi?

I wonder whether the closure of the trams was affecting the bus schedules.

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The first shady taxi guy was at the taxi stand at the Pantheon. We walked up and wanted to go to the Vatican. No other taxis were waiting and we needed to go about that time.

The other was in the first seaside town past Santa Marinella. We overshot our train stop and were hoping to just take a taxi back. It would have been about 10-12 minutes back to where we wanted to go. We went to the taxi stand at the train station but the guy said he would charge 15 euros a person to drive us there so we skipped that and took the train back.

In both cases the taxi was the only one at the stand. All times we had honest drivers were when multiple taxis were waiting at the stand. I think they just press their luck if they know no other car is there.

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thanks for keeping this going.

Sorry that your private living room salottino on the train didn't work out for you - and for all that money.

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CONTINUED…

Dolomites: Stayed at Hotel Grien in Ortisei. Awesome hotel with a fantastic view of the Dolomites. Our family room on the ground floor has a swing even :). Glad we have a car though - the shuttle to town only runs to 8 PM and we aren’t doing full board.

Did Seiser Alm on ebikes. The insane bike rental guys told it is was “mostly flat” (!). We would have died on normal bikes but on the e-bikes it was a great day for the Panorma route. Ate at Huette in Tirler (just south of Saltria) - food was very good but the standout part was a super unique nature playground that even my teens loved.

Seceda - one of the most beautiful spots ever. Absolutely stunning. We stopped at the first rifugio there just as you come down after going as far as you can along the peak route. It was great but also very crowded. The 3 other stops were also all open and had much less traffic at them.

Merano - did the Alpin Bob summer mountain coaster (fun; swamped with campers and families even on a Friday although waits were not too long) then hit the Therme (decently busy but didn’t feel overwhelming or crowded).

Milan:
We came here only to fly out and I’m glad I didn’t give it an extra time. Big modern city - not my taste. Duomo was beautiful though and we had a great meal at a spot called Ratata celebrate our final day in Italy.

BONUS DAYS…
United in its great wisdom decided to give us two extra days here. One was spent trying to figure things out, rent a car, find a pool for my swimmer. The other though we day tripped to Stresa to see Lake Maggiore and Isola Bella. The palace and gardens on the island were stunning and we ended up having the best meal of the trip at Hostaria Vita in Stresa. A stressful day when our flight was cancelled but a nice extra day the following one to end on. :)

Thank you to the many who post their advice on this forum! It’s always super helpful!!

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Thanks for posting. Sounded like a very fun and active trip

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As to your extra days, courtesy of United, I learned through this forum and my follow-up based on thoughtful replies last year that EU rules will require United to cover at least some of your extra costs, plus 600 Euros per day per traveller given the length of the delay.

See https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/france/departure-from-cdg-a-cautionary-tale-for-british-airways-travelers starting with Mona’s reply on 6/14/23 and her link in that reply and then my 11/27/23 update with the happy ending.

And thanks for your TR.