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AI Appears to Have Provided Fake Phone Number (Gemini/Condor)

I tried to book a flight on Condor Airlines. As documented elsewhere, the Condor Airlines website is not great. This past week (early February) I've been looking for flights in April-May in their Premium Coach (PC) class. I've learned that I'm a bit late as the PC flights are sold out on many flights. After a few frustrating hours of checking different travel days, I finally found a round trip flight that would work. I tried to book it. After selecting seats, entering our names, birth dates, and credit card information, the website generated a message saying the booking was 97% complete but could not be booked and to call Condor Airlines Customer Service. The message did not provide a phone number.

I entered "Condor Airlines Customer Service" into a Chrome browser and at the top of the search results Google's Gemini AI tool provided a phone number for calls from the US (number A).

When I called the number, I was only on hold for a short time. When the call was answered, I don't recall hearing "This is Condor Airlines Customer Service," it was more like "how can I help you." The man with an Indian accent was polite, asked for a little information about the flights, put me on a short hold, and came back saying that the flight was oversold for that fare. The man then said that he could book me on the flight for a price that was 1/3 lower than the price of the flight I was unsuccessful in booking. This didn't make any sense to me, but maybe I was getting a great deal, so I said okay. I gave him our names and birth dates. I asked about seat assignments, but didn't get an answer. Before he asked for my credit card information, he explained that he would be booking me in first class and then down grading my reservation to PC. My card would be charged something like $8,000 for two first class tickets and when the the down grade to PC occurred, my card would be credited around $6,000. I've included a fair bit of detail so you can see the red flags that it took me awhile to pick up on.

While I was on the phone, I went to the Condor website and looked up a number for Condor Airlines Customer Service. It showed Number B. I told the man that the number I called was different that the number on the website. He said both numbers are valid. At that point, I told him I didn't want to proceed.

The thing about the AI large language models is they rely on training data. An old saying among programmers is "garbage-in-garbage-out." It appears that the Google Gemini AI model was trained on some website(s) with a phone number for a fake call center.

Posted by
898 posts

Thanks for the heads up. Can I sue AI for promoting fraud? (Can AI sue me for being a chump?)

It's a brave new world.

Happy travels.

Posted by
2009 posts

Thank you for sharing your story. I’m glad to hear that you were able to stop before fully booking.

FYI. Google searches have been showing bogus call center numbers for airlines and hotels for some time now. I believe they either paid for sponsored search results or otherwise manipulated the algorithms to show up on top when searching for “Airline X phone number”. I have found when possible it’s best to use the app to find the correct contact numbers. Of course not every provider has an app so do be careful.

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Hi Joe32F,
No. The number in your post is the correct number for Condor. I spoke with them today and it seemed totally legit. They explained that the reason I got the error message was because they no longer have a relationship with the partner leg that was to fly the final leg of the flight. Why they have an invalid trip on their website is another question. 400.

I didn't put the bogus number in my post to take an extra precaution that google doesn't scrape these posts and pick up the number. The bogus number starts with eight-eight-eight. The last four digits are three seven zero two. The middle three digits are above.

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Rocket, I agree they must be paying or otherwise playing the algorithm. Good advice to use the airline app. I started using DuckDuckGo today to avoid Gemini. It was a good lesson for me.

David, Good luck suing Google or the like. LOL!

Posted by
864 posts

Heard the other day:

Pre-Internet: An important skill was being able to find accurate sources of reliable information.

Current Internet: An important skill is being able to find accurate sources of reliable information

The middle part was great.

Posted by
3674 posts

Travel fora (this included) are constantly being spammed with messages with titles like "How to contact American Airlines customer support" with in the body a lot of AI generated text, and of course a fake number

You have seen this here.

This is called AI grooming. This is intended to indeed produce exactly the result that the OP encountered.

Posted by
3086 posts

Lesson here. When you need to Google the airline, do "X Airline", not "X Airline Customer service." Don't give AI a chance to find the fake by looking for the over-specific request, you can always find the numbers you need when you are on the real page. All, those fraudulent airline posts we find here (and elsewhere) or all avert getting Google and AI to show that as the top post.

Posted by
4540 posts

Thanks for sharing your experience. My heart was dropping as I read your post until you picked up on all this not sounding right and double checked the number. I feel like we can't warn people enough on this issue. I wonder if it is worth going to Gemini and typing in the number and saying it is a fake number for Condor Airlines that tried to scam you. Maybe that would help Gemini learn?

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151 posts

Thanks for the warning. I've realized the better way to search for a site is to enter (name of business) official. If only the name of the business is entered the first few sites that pop up are resellers and other sites that start with A..., etc.

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Thanks for all the great suggestions.

Another suggestion is be aware of your frame of mind. I had this experience after 2-3 hours in front of my computer on this day (as well significant time on previous days). I was feeling frustrated. I rushed a bit when I was searching for the phone number. If I had been fresher and/or slowed down, I likely would have gone to airline website or used the airline app to locate the contact phone number.

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5606 posts

Before we leave home, we make sure we have the real numbers for hotels, airlines, cruise lines, trip insurance people, and etc. loaded in our contact list on the phone. Also have it written on paper with other travel information. Just food for thought.