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My latest eSim plan --- would this work for my family?

My husband and I will be in Italy for 35 days, joined by our son, daughter-in-law, and two young grandchildren for the final 18 days. My husband and I have been getting sim cards in Italy for our iphones for many trips for years, and not using our Verizon plan at all. We also use whatsapp and stay in apartments that have good wifi. He speaks Italian quite well and wants a physical sim so that he has an Italian phone number and can easily call restaurants, language tutors, museums, etc. He is fairly tech savvy, but does not like fuss or complications, and so would not be fond of the eSim/Verizon hacks I've read about here.

But I'm thinking that the other three adults would be fine with just eSims since we will mostly be together and will not be needing phone calls either to each other or with anybody in the States. If the kids are using their iPads in a restaurant or other location without its own wifi, they can use grandpa's phone as a hotspot. In the car, we can use my husband's phone for navigating. Before the rest of the family arrives, I will certainly miss using Google maps on my phone when I am visiting museums, churches, etc by myself, but, heck, I can download maps to my phone and use paper maps. We will all have apps like Trenitalia's and the Venice vaporetto app.

I am mainly wanting to save some money and to spare my son and daughter-in-law having to go get sim cards for their phones when they arrive in Venice. Plus, it annoys me that a TIM or Tre sim card plan is not long enough for 35 days and too long for 18 days of use. We can't switch to TMobile because only Verizon covers our somewhat remote cabin in Minnesota.

What issues am I not seeing with this idea? Like (exposing my ignorance here if I haven't already!), will apps work when out and about without phone plans? Will something go blooey with the kids' iPads? If I'm in a church or somewhere without wifi and want to google on something, will I lose my mind if I have to wait to find out an answer?

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Nancy, I'm assuming your son also has Verizon? I think eSIMs would work very well for you all. I'm a little confused though. You mentioned the three other adults - does that include you? You said you are being joined by your son, DIL and 2 young grandchildren so I only count 2 adults there.

If you are one of the adults, then I think what you are talking about is a great idea. If you're not, I don't see why you don't just get an eSIM of your own. As you noted, you can use your husband's phone for calls and navigation but it wouldn't hurt to have it on your phone for when you are out and about. If you don't want to pay for 35 days of usage, then why not just get it for the first 2 weeks or so? It's so inexpensive and easy to use that I don't understand why you wouldn't take advantage of that.

In answer to your questions, all of your apps will work with eSIMs. Nothing should go blooey with the iPADs and the kids can tether them to any phone that has an eSIM; not just your husband's phone. And if I was in a church without wifi and wanted to google something, I would lose my mind if I had to wait. 😊 For the small price of an eSIM, why deny yourself googling pleasure?

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Aha, Mardee to the rescue about eSims, again!

Yes, although I am remarkably infantile for someone who will be 70 next year, I am the 3rd adult proposing to use an eSim data-only plan rather than a cell phone + data plan on our next trip. My hesitation was due to my not understanding that an eSim works without wifi! Now I think I get it.

Thank you!

I am envious of the temperature in Duluth right now --- it's 100 at our cabin and we may all have to sleep on the floor tonight in the one room that has a tiny old air conditioner.

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The only catch is that your phones have to be unlocked - but esims for data only are great - works with all apps just fine.

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Thanks, yes, unlocked (bought at the Apple store, not from phone company)! Looking forward to trying something new.

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My father and I just got back from a 10-day trip to Switzerland. We tried out the all inclusive Orange eSIMs - the ones that give you an actual French phone number and a small amount of international minutes and texts (calling and texting within Europe was unlimiited).

It was so nice to have a French phone number! Not only did we use them to call and text each other, but we used them communicating to our lodging hosts. Also, it helps with text verification within Europe (for example, to use the local gym's wifi, I had to be texted a verification code, but they would only accept a European phone number).

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I figure that if it turns out that something about my husband having an Italian phone number and me having a data-only eSim (and no phone number at all) is not working, we will be in cities for 5 to 7 days each and I can easily go get an Italian sim card. Yes, I did kind of wonder about verification codes, which have been a problem in the past when I HAD an Italian phone number, and then Apple or Google was wanting to do a two-step verification. Contacting hosts is not a problem because with Airbnb you have to use their messaging system (although I do Whatsapp some hosts so I can send them photos).

Thank you for reminding me about these aspects!

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Nancy, come up and visit! It’s nice and cool here! My daughter was down in the Cities today as she had to take my grandson to his neurologist, and she about died from the heat. She said it was 100 degrees there.

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My hesitation was due to my not understanding that an eSim works without wifi!

Oh, I get it. Keep in mind that an eSIM is the same thing as a SIM card except that it is embedded in the phone, instead of physically placed there. The E stands for “embedded.” So you’re still getting a cell phone signal just like you would with your regular phone. That’s why you can tether the iPad to any phone with an eSIM.