The issue of SIMs, ESIMs, Phone Plans, etc comes up a lot. I guess its time to get some input and reconsider my phone situation.
Currently, living in Europe I have a U.S. T-Mobile phone ($50) that rarely gets used on the network unless I need to access a restricted site, but gets used on Wifi Calling and Texts quite often. And I have an EU phone ($30) with Telekom (Europe’s version of T-Mobile) which can only call within the EU but works without charges anywhere within the EU and with not too unreasonable charges outside of the EU.
So, for me now and in the future any suggestions?
Here are my issues.
When traveling I want to have my home phone number to be operational
• I will never make a phone call from the U.S. network other than an emergency.
• I want to answer calls which could be emergencies.
• I use two factor authentication on one of my credit card accounts some of my other accounts (banking, Google, Investment, Social Security) which means I cannot access them or use them if I can not receive a text on my U.S. number.
• Some vendors and accounts recognize who I am by my phone number when I call. It is part of their authentication process.
• My U.S. T-Mobile phone account international calling is standard on my plan (about $50), but there are cheaper plans in the world.
I want a U.S. IP address and that means a U.S. SIM from a U.S. service provider.
• I have found that there are many websites in the U.S. that will block all but U.S. IP addresses. Which websites? You wont know until you try and then its too late if you don’t have a U.S. IP address. For me it is mostly government sites, but I noticed my local supermarket delivery site was also blocked.
• Comes with the T-Mobile on my U.S. phone
I want some data service
• If I do all my heavy data work like uploading photos, WhatsApp, movies, music, using wifi at the hotel or the bar or the restaurant, these articles indicate that 5 to 10GB per month should be sufficient: https://uw.co.uk/mobile/guides/how-much-mobile-data-do-i-need and https://yohomobile.com/how-much-data-does-google-maps-use
• My U.S. T-Mobile base plan has 5GB of 5G international data and unlimited slower connections. Very much the absolute minimum. Additional 5G data is 512MB/day for $5 or 5GB/10 day for $35 or 15GB/30 day for $50. So on a 21-day trip, I usually end up buying the 5GB about half way through the trip. I only have to use this when I am outside of the EU as I have an EU phone with unlimited data.
Cheap Calling Home
• Not everyone I know has or monitors their WhatsApp so a not too expensive call home from time to time is convenient.
• My U.S. T-Mobile calls are $0.25 a minute which means it cost me $0.25 to call and say that I will call from the hotel when I get back there. From the hotel I use free Wifi Calling.
• I would like to know if any of the other service providers offer something similar to T-Mobile’s Wifi calling. Calls to the U.S. are free with T-Mobile WiFi Calling. https://www.t-mobile.com/support/coverage/wi-fi-calling-from-t-mobile
I want coverage where ever I go in Europe
• My U.S. phone T-Mobile claims coverage in 215 countries. I didn’t think there were 215 countries.
• My Hungarian phone is really an EU phone and has no charges anywhere in the EU, but I can not make a call from the EU to any place outside of the EU. BUT, and this is strange, if I am outside of the EU I can call any place in the world and I have data (but don’t know how much).
I want the same ease of use convenience that I have in the U.S.
• When the phone rings, I just want to push a button and talk.
I don’t want a lot of high-tech hassle (for me anything other than plug and play is high tech).
• If I must manually switch back between SIM cards I wont be happy.
Two Phones
• I travel solo most of the time. If I lose my phone I am in a world of hurt, so a backup phone is essential. I can put it in the same pouch as my passport and extra credit card for emergencies. A network connection isn’t an absolute necessity, but it would be nice.
• Right now I have a European phone with Telekom (T-Mobile), but that’s because I live in Europe right now. But that could change.
Hi Mr. E, Good topic. My needs are similar but different. I can address the backup phone requirement:
I agree completely that the darn phone is so essential, that a backup is needed. When my wife and I buy new (used) phones, the old ones become backups, so we have a few. For the backup phones, I tried a few low cost providers, and the cheapest was Ultramobile. You can only buy the sim card from Ebay. Mine cost $13 with a $3 credit. Activating was easy. Then you add money to your "wallet" (credit card or Paypal). It's a true Pay As You Go plan, and every month, $3 is deducted from your wallet. You get 100 minutes, 100 texts, and 100 mb. data per month. That's good enough for my backup phone. I put one backup phone in my wife's vehicle, and one in my vehicle. For $6/month, I have two working backup phones.
For international travel, I bring my backup phone also. It's a dual sim phone (Galaxy S9). For $25 I bought an Esim card from 5ber, put it in the second sim slot (Ultramobile in slot 1). Then I bought an Esim from Roamless. It's also Pay As You Go, and works in 202 countries (I've seen the list of 202). I added $20 to it with a credit card. Data only, and it's $2.45/Gb. in Hungary and most countries.
The Ultramobile, being owned by Tmobile, works in Telecom's 214 countries, although roaming calls and texts are not free. I could use it for Wifi Calling calls, using data from Roamless. So I think I've got the backup need covered.
Another backup calling option I use, is to have a Google Voice number for each phone. I could use it with Wifi or Wifi Calling, anywhere in the world. I could transfer my "normal" Tmobile number to Google Voice, but I don't want to do that yet, as my Tmobile account is grandfathered into a $35/month Magenta plan.
I also agree that doing 2FA is essential for you. You can't use a Google Voice number for 2FA, but you could use a cheap Ultramobile number for 2FA, or email in some cases.
As I like to say, "It's a math problem" for you. Data is getting cheaper, and other esim providers are cheaper for data than Roamless, if you were to use an esim for your normal data use. Oh yeah, the Roamless sim gives me a London I/P address, so that wouldn't work for you. When shopping for Esims, it might not be easy learning what I/P they would be from. Others here know more than me about VPN's to change your I/P.
Maybe a bit of the above might fit into your new plans. Best wishes with your quest.
Small thought - you don't need a US Sim card to get a US IP address. Subscribe to a VPN
service, for which the app can reside on one or multiple devices, and you can access the
internet through servers in multiple countries.
If you don't intend to access US-only sites very much, but need the capability, Windscribe
offers 10GB free VPN access per month.
If you think you can get rid of one of the phones, you will have some additional $$$ headroom
to perhaps upgrade one of your plans.
I know that your sig file says Texas and Hungary, but, when you refer to calling home, where is
home? 😀
I'm sure you're aware of this, but, Google Fi is seamless and hassle-free. If you have the unlimited
plan, you get worldwide calling and unlimited data for $65 a month, and you can get a very nice
smartphone for free if you are a new subscriber. I am sure there are some gotchas given your
set of needs, though.
Both of you. Thank you. It's a start.
There is a flaw to my system. In September, when I land in D.C., my US phone will quit working the minute I log into a US network. I've been out of the US too long (2 years). It's happened before. Can't be fixed online. I will have to go to a TMobike store, and they will have to make a phone call to someone to get it turned back on. A hassle.
I forgot about the Tmobile phone being shut off for too much roaming... It makes me wonder if an UltraMobile plan would also do that, since it's part of Tmobile. That would need to be determined, and that would be harder to learn, since a brick and mortar Tmobile store wouldn't help with Ultramobile.
The good thing is they don't turn it off until you log into the US network..... or so it seems. So I keep the use to a minimum here. It's my "home phone" stays on my desk with the network turned off for weeks. Just wifi which still receives calls and texts, so it okay. But worked for a week in Ukraine, a week in Bosnia, a week in Germany, a week in Malta and a week in Australia just fine.
And i have done 3 week trios out of the US with no problem. 2 months out of the US got it cut last time. I'm guessing 2 years will too.
The good thing is they don't turn it off until you log into the US network..... or so it seems. So I keep the use to a minimum here. It's my "home phone" stays on my desk with the network turned off for weeks. Just wifi which still receives calls and texts, so it okay. But worked for a week in Ukraine, a week in Bosnia, a week in Germany, a week in Malta and a week in Australia just fine.
As an American working and living in Germany I put some thought into this before I came over, this time. For quick trips, 2-3 weeks, before I just went to my carrier and had them add me to their international service. That worked fine, best when I could access wifi, and I did this for years all over the EU. In the middle east I just bought a cheap phone and sim and used that, but I was there for more than a month at a time.
What I have now is Verizon and their international plan, which I pay $92/mo for, unlimited data. I also have an esim for Telecom which costs $45/mo with a German number. The Telecom line works everywhere I've been in the Eu over the past 2 years, and it lets me know I'm covered every time I cross a country border. The Verizon line just works, all the time. So, when dealing with the USA, which is 1-2 calls a day, more often texts, etc, I use Verizon. For all the local business, and for online orders, service calls, keeping in touch with people in the EU, I use Telecom. May not be the cheapest way to do things, but it ALWAYS works.
All of this is on a 4 year old iPhone.
I do find it helps if you set the priority for each contact to one service or the other. But for apps like Waze, or searching Chrome, or checking on a flight, it really doesn't matter. I do have to be a bit selective between US, UK, and German Amazon.
I looked quickly at Mint Mobile, which looks to be a pretty good deal. They offer 30-day international roaming without data for an additional $5 per month. Paired with a data-only eSIM in a dual-SIM handset, this seems to be pretty economical for long-term travelers like Mr E. Their US plans can be as low as $30/month.
This stuff fascinates me.
I am sort of set in my ways and I dont mind paying a little more to have nothing to mess with. But if there is somehting out there that I have overlooked ... just time to ask.