I'm buying a new bag for trip to Greece and Italy with a number of domestic flights in Greece. The airlines are listing a max weight of 8kg (13+lbs) for carry-on bags. A rolling carry-on bag would be 6-8 lbs: about half the allowed weight would be my empty suitcase. Do they really check the weight on carry on bags? Perhaps I should get a (non-rolling) backpack type bag. I'm flying Olympus and Aegean and one discount airline.
Correction- 8kg is 17.6 lbs. That's much better... but still the wheeled bag means I can pack much less.
You should expect to have your carry on weighed, especially on a discount airline or if they are flying smaller planes.
Air Canada did that to me on a recent flight. I made it by barely a 0.1 kg.
The weight of the wheeled bag is one reason I never use one and have a convertible backpack weighing less than 1 pound empty.
I agree on smaller and budget airlines prepare for them to weigh it. Are you going carry-on only? I can't imagine a trip with only 13 lbs. of clothes. I travel with a U.S. size carry on, 22" bag which I check. That packs to about 30 lbs. and it's hard for me to travel with that little, shoes are especially a challenge as they take up a lot of space.
I don't know about Olympus and Aegean airlines, but unless their weight limit is 5 kg, it is not 13.2 lb. 8 kg is 17.6 lb. But even if the weight limit is 8 kg, a 6-8 lb bag is still a significant part of the weight limit.
My experience is that yes, they check them. If they are acceptable then they tag them with a cabin bag tag.
My shoulder sack ca., 19 inches serves as the carry on. At check-in I keep it no more than 17 pounds. I've never had it checked as to it weight by the airline staff, only was asked if that was the carry on. That's all. I try to weigh it myself at check-in to see how much I packed in.
For a discount airline I know it would have to be lighter, just to warrant no attention.
My bag has been weighed by Air France and Alitalia, neither of which are discount carriers. To be a little less stressed, chose a backpack and save 5 pounds.
Sarah Murdoch did a you tube video in which she packed a 10 pound suitcase. I couldn't do it, but she did.
she started with a fold away duffle that weighed approx. 8 ounces.
IT luggage has carry on size rolling bags under 4 pounds some 3.
You want a bag under 4.
I used a 19" roller from walmart 4 pounds and packed it to under 8kg but I only packed one pair of keen rose hiking sandles. I actually had plenty of clothes but needed compression cubes to make it a more comfortable fit. I just took lightweight cotton wool or cashmere. Wore my jeans and whatever jacket or cardigan to keep me warm and/or dry. Leave the electronics. Consider buying easy to find toiletry stuff when you get there. or flip flops when you get there :)
Also if you can take an extra personal bag. Youll have plenty of room to play with weight and space.
I looked up Olympus and their size limit is... 21.65 x 15.75 x 9.05
When you go to buy a bag make sure of the outside dimension including wheels and handles.
But that other discount airline you mention...check their dimension also then buy for the smallest allowance :)
Have fun. You'll have to make sacrifices but you can buy anything you need in greece or italy pretty much :)
You really only need one good pair of walking shoes youll wear on the plain.
One way to help get your carry-on under the weight limit is to use a Scottevest jacket, with all the pockets on the inside I take many of the heaviest items out of the bag and put them in the jacket (they don't care what your jacket weighs) and I have been succesful, so far, getting my bag on every flight. The jacket doubles as my raincoat and the sleeves come off to make a vest if needed. Electronics and shoes seem to be the heaviest items for me but as a guy I only take a pair of hiking shoes, that I wear, and a pain of sandals. Also, your liquid bag can be heavy and again I put it in the jacket.
First, please review your math. 1 kilo is 2.2 pounds, so 8 kilograms is 17.6 pounds, not 13.3. We have never been checked with our soft RS convertible backpacks on our backs as we go to the gate. They are generally between 17 and 18 pounds, tare-weighted on our bathroom scale.
We always take a rolling carry-on bag each, and while I'm not sure how often we've had them weighed, I do know that they've never been rejected based on weight. However, once one was rejected for size.
Aegean does say you can take a day-bag that must fit under the seat in front of you, so take your heaviest items out of your luggage (computer, a heavy pair of shoes?, your 311 bag) and put them in that bag under the seat. This will reduce the weight of your luggage. And of course, if you are traveling with anyone, divide contents to even out weights, and buy what you can in the countries (sunscreen, beach towel ...)
There are numerous wheeled bags that weigh less than 6-8 lbs....a lot less. (My current bag, a Samsonite, weighs 3.75 lbs but sadly isn't for sale in the U.S.). Look at some other Samsonites, Osprey, It Luggage, just to name a few.
If a personal item is allowed, it's usually not included in the weight however some airlines are now combining the weights of both the main carry on and the personal item.
A jacket with pockets is also a good idea as you can wear the jacket and stuff the pockets. And unless you are on a small puddle jumper (less than 19 seats) you will not be weighed.
You didn't say when you are going but both Greece and Itay can be very hot so make sure you want to lug an extra 17 pounds on your back in high temperatures.
Lastly, cut back on stuff you can pick up over there.
Every airline is different, and even a single airline's behavior changes from day to day, from flight to flight, depending on the gate crew and their mood at the moment you pass by. If you're over what's allowed, sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you get socked with a fee thats 5 times what you paid for your ticket. Do you feel lucky?
Best advice is to carefully check each airline you will be flying on every trip, find out what their official rules are (that's on their website) and stay within those rules, even if they seem unbelievably strict. Or pay, in advance, for a/another checked bag. Otherwise, it's like playing Russian Roulette as you queue up for the flight.
Of course, starting with heavy, wheeled luggage is shooting yourself in the foot. And, it should go without saying, you must be disciplined about what/how much you pack.
Before you count on stocking up on things like toiletries in Greece, don't forget that when the time comes to move from Hotel 1 to Hotel 2, those items need to fit in one of your bags! Be sure there's some empty space somewhere.
I know exactly where to buy travel-size toiletries in the US, and I have a large inventory of little bottles if I need to decant. I wouldn't necessarily be able to find small quantities in Greece without devoting a lot of time to it. Twice I've looked for small solid antiperspirants in Europe and found only full-sized roll-ons. (I now realize that I needed to go to a large store like Boots.)
IT does make lightweight suitcases. I was very happy with mine right up to the point when the first of the spinner wheels failed catastrophically (Day 91 of use, to be fair). The second wheel failed on Day 121, rendering the bag non-usable. I suspect that's par for the course if you buy a relatively inexpensive bag with spinner wheels and trundle it around Europe for an extended period.
My Osprey Ozone ar 4.4 lbs replaced my old Rick Steves that weighed 7+ lbs. Best case I have owned and the 3 pound difference is noticeable.
I had my carryon weighed in Berlin. It was too heavy. They then checked it for no charge.
I haven't traveled in Europe in a long time and I appreciate the helpful advice here and yay! with a correction in my math, I've gained 4 more pounds allowed in my bag! I've always traveled with a backpack and I'm convinced now that it is the best way for me to travel (saving the weight of the wheels). I don't have many toiletries at all and I'll wear my heavy Chaco sandals on the plane. Thank you for the help.