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Rolling carry-on/Euro bag tipping

Greetings,

I haven't posted much for a while and still owe everyone a trip report for our VFR tour from May. Soon, I promise!

In the meantime, I thought I'd relate my packing-fail experience flying home from Orlando yesterday (10/19). For the last couple of years, I've used the RS 20" rolling carry-on as my main bag, with the Euro Flight Bag holding my CPAP, camera and items I need on the plane.

I've seen complaints here in the past about this combination of bags being prone to tipping forward when unattended, but I'd never found it to be a problem, and said so in past posts. Well, apparently, I was careless in packing for our return trip. Who enjoys packing to go home, after all? I think I must have put my heaviest packing cube and a pair of shoes at the top end of the carry-on. Big mistake!

While we were checking my golf bag curbside at the airport, my carry-on/Euro stack tipped forward as soon as I let go of the handle. I didn't think too much about it, figuring I'd just gotten in a hurry getting everything situated out of the car. I shifted the position of the Euro bag a bit and moved on. Then it tipped over again when we stopped for a moment inside. Now I started to suspect something was amiss and tried to make a point to be aware before letting go of the handle.

Thankfully, we'd gotten random TSA pre-check. Standing in line, I absent-mindedly let go of the handle for a moment. Sure enough, it tipped behind me, right onto the legs of an elderly woman in a wheelchair. She was fine, no harm, and was gracious about it, but I still felt awful, apologized profusely, then silently yelled at myself for being careless.

I was glad we had been in the shorter pre-check security line, and jumped at the chance to gate-check the carry-on for our full flight out of Orlando. Otherwise, I might have tried repacking the bag on the airport floor.

Bottom line, I'm a believer now that attention must be paid to pack the RS carry-on bottom-heavy if you're stacking the Euro bag atop it. Maybe it does the same thing with other bags on top, as well?

While I like the Euro bag, it is bulky and totally unstructured (which can be both good and bad). Besides the tipping problem, the Euro bag seemed to be a bit more "floppy" this time. For some trips, like this one when I didn't need to put a great deal in the secondary bag, I might look for something a bit smaller with more structure. Suggestions?

Cheers!

Posted by
1194 posts

I'm not sure there is a problem. This is basic physics (the simple machines) where the bag is acting like a lever. Some bags don't tip because they are bottom heavy, but the reason for that is because they are heavy. They've added weight to the bottom of the bag!. Do you want to carry a heavier bag to avoid the tipping issue? I wouldn't.
You now know that your bag tips. From now on make sure your shoes and heavy items go on the bottom.

Posted by
786 posts

Thanks, Cindy. I'm well aware that the "problem" was self-inflicted. The only reason I posted this account is that I've seen quite a few fairly vociferous complaints about the tipping issue in the past. Just adding some anecdotal data to the mix.

Posted by
2707 posts

It's not a RS bag problem. All of my spinners and rollaboards will tip when you put another bag on top. Watch how flight crews attach that second bag with a strap hanging low in the front of the primary bag, rather than stacking. It does not completely eliminate the problem but it helps. In the meantime don't put anything fragile in the front pocket of your rollaboard. I learned that the hard way. After repeated "tips" my Kindle was damaged beyond repair.

Posted by
11613 posts

I use the RS 20" rolly. It tipped over once, when the Ravenna daybag I slipped over the handles was incorrectly packed (my fault). Otherwise, it stayed upright even with a broken extension zipper. Haven't yet used the new replacement bag sent by the RS Store, but I expect it to work the same way.

Posted by
489 posts

I have the same bags and after 4 weeks traveling last month I found no problems ... IF... The heavy items are packed in the bottom (near the wheels) I first packed the rolling wrong and experienced one tip. next repack, switched it up.

Posted by
5697 posts

Regarding the "floppy" Euro tote -- I carry all my train tickets and hotel confirmation printouts in a manila folder with Acco fastener through top- punched holes and that folder gives my Euro-tote a "wall" to stabilize it. (Until, of course, the papers are tossed out, but by then I probably have souvenir programs to take their places.)

Posted by
470 posts

Glad to revisit this stoutfella. The never ending quest right? Here is what I am now using instead of the Euro Flight bag. I got it at a Samsonite outlet store for less than $50. It has structure and some flexible parts to it. It has a luggage trolley sleeve on the back for secure stacking. The bonus is that if I end up checking my roller bag I can just pull this along instead of carrying it. https://www.ebags.com/product/samsonite/wheeled-underseater-small/264293?productid=10620026

Posted by
15049 posts

I don't know too many airlines that will allow two roller bags as carry on unless you are in first or business class. And even those are few.

Posted by
470 posts

Frank ll, it hasn't been a problem on either United or Southwest, and we are just in Economy seats. I think it is more about dimensions and/ or weight than wheels. The Samsonite bag has the same dimensions as the Euro flight bag, and I only use it for lightweight things. It is smaller and lighter than most backpacks or tote bags I see people bringing on as their second piece.

Posted by
786 posts

A somewhat unrelated update. As I was packing for the Florida trip, one of the plastic buckles on an interior compression strap snapped. I made a phone call and sent a couple of pictures via email. Lisa from customer service sent me a couple of new, sturdier buckles. It involved a bit of sewing, for which I have no skills, but I was able to get the job done. It was a good solution to an issue with a bag that is in otherwise perfect condition.

They're also sending me a new Civita bag because one of the cinch cords on a water bottle pocket has started to fray, covered under warranty.

I'd say RS stands behind the products they sell.

Posted by
15049 posts

TravelingMom.....good luck trying to take two wheeled bags on a European airline in economy class.

Posted by
4156 posts

That Samsonite bag is not light. It weighs 6 pounds, 9 ounces empty, according to the listing.

I've had no problems with either of my main bags tipping over. I have this Eagle Creek 2-wheeled one. It weighs 5 pounds, 13 ounces empty, although you may see different, often lower, weights given in the specs. I also have this Lipault spinner. It weighs 4 pounds, 14 ounces. Weight specs also may vary with this one.

I find the spinner much easier to manage in every location -- yes, even over cobblestones. The Eagle Creek one is expandable, taking it out of the carry on size, but useful when I buy too many souvenir T-shirts. It's also less stable, but okay if packed correctly. Neither is small enough to carry on most intra-European airlines and so have to be checked.

Perhaps they don't tip because I use Baggallini totes with wide sleeves that go over the U-shaped handles. Some sleeves zip open only on the bottom and are an open pocket at the top. Some zip open top and bottom. I can put my meds, electronics and a small cross-body purse inside any of the ones I have. There are many styles and sizes. They can be bought online or often at deep discount at TJ Maxx. I have never paid full price for any of my travel bags. These are some examples: Hobo and Alberta.

One of those carry ons plus one tote is all I take on a trip of any length.

P.S. I refuse to buy any bag with a T-shaped handle, even if it is lighter. I hurts my hand and wrist to pull and trying to put any bag on top will fail because it will immediately become a pole dancer.

Posted by
11613 posts

I agree, stoutfella. I had an incident with my RS rolly and they replaced it (3 years old, extension zipper broke).