Question about international carry ons

Just here to say I love my RS rolling carryon. Don't overthink your decision ;)

Do you want two wheels or four? What is your budget?

Do you know the size and weight restrictions of the airline(s) you"ll be taking?

If you have a discount store near you like TJ Max, Ross or Marshalls, they usually have a large selection bags. Take a tape measure with you.

To help prevent tipping over, place your heavier items near the bottom of the bag and towards the back.

Frank II, my budget is around $200, I am more interested in 2 wheels since it's better for rough surfaces.

For airlines, nothing has been finalized, I have been mainly looking at United and American Airlines, but wanted to get something complaint with European carriers (Air France, Icelandair, and Ryanair are a few I have been looking at) in case of an emergency or if I get a better deal with them.

There aren't as many 2 wheel bags made anymore compared to 4 wheel bags, Travelpro, Eagle Creek and Rick Steves makes them. Most of the others are not well known brands. Besides my suggestion of the discount stores you can also look at Amazon.

Icelandair and Ryanair have a 20 cm depth limit while Air France and most US airlines are 23 cm. That's over an inch difference.

I've used my RS wheeled bag since 2015. It still looks like new in spite of many trips. Mine does not tip over because I pack it with the heaviest items near the wheels, as one should. I really wanted to retire this one because I love buying new bags, but inspite of my newer bag (Eagle Creek) that I studied to death and bought, I always end up taking the RS bag on vacations involving flights/trains, etc. I've even been lending it to my daughter's family in hopes it will get destroyed so I can move on...but, no, it looks like new still. LOL Other things I love about this bag are the size and placement of the outside pockets. To me, they are perfect and work well with my packing system. I also find the structure of the bag good, as it has a firm back which comes around the side of the bags, but the top is squishable, which I find convenient for fitting in small spaces.

I love my RS Rolling carry-on. I’ve taken it to Europe three times and on domestic trips. It won’t tip over if you put shoes and heavy items in the wheel end. It’s easy to overpack because the top isn’t rigid. Not a bad thing if you want to check luggage, plus it expands. The pockets on the outside are handy for organization.
I always pack light outbound, struggling to stay under 20lbs, so I can lift the bag into the airline’s and trains’ overheads. From now on, I’m not checking homebound since United delayed my bag last trip. Stress I don’t need.
FYI the rolling carry-on weighs 5lbs out of the box, not 6.5lbs as listed in the travel store. I weighed mine.

My favorite thing about my Europe-size carry on: it fits in the "short side" (2-seat side) overhead bins on Delta's B717's. A US-size carry on does not. It's always fun to throw my carry on up in one of the short bins, watch the flight attendant come running to tell me it won't fit on that side, and then demonstrate that the door to the bin does indeed close.

My husband bought a new carryon the other day, the brand is Swissgear.
I’ve got one by Hey’s.
They both are pretty good quality.
Each cost about CAN$100 in Winner’s and Marshall’s.
I like TravelPro too, that’s what my biggest suitcase is, and I also have a 23” Samsonite that has held up really well for years.
All good quality brands in my experience

Whatever you do, when choosing a carryon size, be sure to get one no bigger than 21”.
Be sure the measurement includes the wheels!
European airlines can be very picky.

Travelpro has a 2-wheeled bag in the Maxlite line that meets the measurement requirements. I needed to look hard to find the exact bag and found one last year on sale at Macys for about $125. I’ve also seen them sometimes at Nordstrom Rack, TJ Maxx et al for about the same price. I have a spinner version that is more readily available. My husband prefers the two-wheels and I’ve just become a spinner convert (bad tennis elbow).

And yes, measure for yourself and verify the actual full size of the bag with wheels as the manufacturers play fast and loose with their descriptions.

I am a recent Travelpro spinner convert and couldn't be happier! I have two bags, one slightly smaller (for Egypt Air carry-on dimension requirements) and one slightly larger (fits with United and American requirements). I never thought I'd switch from 2 wheels to 4, but these bags handle being pulled on just two wheels, when necessary, very well. They are very well constructed, balance well, and each has a baffle that opens up for more space. I bought each on-line at Macys. They are true to the listed dimensions on-line.

I love my RS 2 wheel carryon! I had the older version from, 2007 and then a couple years ago the zipper finally gave out. I bought a new one and love this just as much. I have not had any issues with it at all. I have used it for carryon on numerous times to Europe, and will be using it again in a couple months.

I would go with the lightest bag that meets the dimensions you are trying to get to.

I have the RS rolling carry on but moved away from it last year when I needed meet a dimension and weight requirement for an Air France segment. The RS rolling carry on was a bit over 6# but it met the size requirements. I went ahead and got a lighter bag (4.5#) to give myself some grace with packing. In the end they did not even look at the carry-ons when boarding the Air France segment but I'd have stressed myself out if I was over the weight requirements for AF.

So far I've taken the new bag (Osprey Ozone) on 3 trips and I've been able to pack it pretty light. It is not a bag for everyone. It's highly overpriced and has a monopole handle which does not work if you are going to stack a personal item on top. I don't do that so no problem. It also packs a bit weird but I think experience is taking care of this.

In my search last year, I wound up having to finally do a spreadsheet listing all the different weights and characteristics. I do recommend you use the metric measurements when comparing. I found that they were more accurate as the inch measurements had been rounded up or down and were giving me results that were all over the map. I DON'T think in Metric but having the metric measurements worked better for comparisons.

When are you traveling? Is it before Black Friday/ or Cyber Monday? I think there will be good deals then!

I have an old RS rolling suitcase. It works fine. If it tips over, so what. Just don’t stand it up where people are walking and can trip. I like 2 wheels and the two bar extension handle. I avoid “T” bar handles. There are other choices available.

Amazon.com has US Traveler Rio luggage which looks suspiciously a lot like my old RS case, but at a much lower cost. Sometimes, this Rio suitcase is on sale for about $45 - if you have time to watch the prices. Don’t be afraid to use cheap luggage. I have an old Sears case that I bought on clearance that is still going strong despite years of abuse, up and down concrete steps, and at water parks as well as airplane travel.

I'm another lover of the TravelPro Maxlite 5 Carry on spinner - I have the domestic size carry on but plan on buying the international size before my Egypt trip in 2025. I have never had a problem with it on cobblestones or rough streets or sidewalks, and I've had mine for years.

The International size should give you the width you are looking for. https://travelpro.com/collections/carry-on-luggage/products/maxlite%C2%AE-5-international-expandable-carry-on-spinner?variant=39949564739682

I would pick the lightest that fits size requirements. We bought delsey clavel. 5.3lbs. They are $155 right now on amazon.

Zippers can be a bit finicky

I also shopped at sierra trading post locally. They had 2 wheel small suitcases for a reasonable price.

I got curious before I bought my last bag and I built a spreadsheet with the max bag sizes of every airline I was likely to fly (Air France, American, British Air, Delta, KLM, Lufthansa, Turkish Air, United, EasyJet, Wizz and Ryan)

Of the 11 airlines I researched there were 5 bag sizes allowed. There is no "International Size" carryon.

However one size, 55 x 35 x 23 (21.65" x 13.77" x 9.05") appears to fit within the maximum size of all but Ryan and Wizz.

Good luck finding a good bag with those dimensions (or slightly smaller).

Then when I got to the Personal Item, there were 6 different size requirements.

Lets not even get into weight limits......

My husband wanted two wheels so we bought a Travelpro suitcase two years ago. Used it 3-4 times and the foot broke off. We went to their website and saw that there was a parts catalog and that the broken part was listed. We thought we were all set and we contacted them requesting the part but nope. It's "unavailable" but we could have a 20% discount on a new suitcase. I pointed out that they were still selling the identical suitcase so obviously they have access to that part to attach to the new suitcases they're building, but they refused to help me.

Luckily my brother-in-law has a 3D printer and was able to make us a new foot. I would never buy a Travelpro suitcase again.

Mr E. ;
If you don’t mind sharing all your hard work making that spreadsheet,
I’m sure a lot of people here would love you forever!
:)

I have the Travelpro Maxlite 5 International spinner and the one time I flew a non-US carrier(Air France) it fit the sizer at the gate.

Patricia, I'm sorry you had that experience. I'm surprised a bit, though - perhaps there were extenuating circumstances in your case? Generally the warranty should have covered that.

I've had TravelPro bags since the 1990's and I'm on my 3rd one. My first one was a roller bag and I gave to my niece so I could get a spinner back in 2010-ish. Then I gave my daughter my Maxlite 4 spinner so that I could get the Maxlite 5, which is lighter. All 3 are still going strong. TravelPro makes a good bag and there's a reason that they are the primary bags for most airline staff, including Delta. My brother is a Delta pilot, so I do know that's true. He is the one who first told me about them. And I have a sister-in-law (married to another brother) who is a FA for Delta, and also religiously uses TravelPro bags.

The Travelpro Maxlite 21" carryon says it's really 23" high. Has that ever been a problem?

CanAm Cherie:
Yes, that is too big for carryon on European airlines.
That measurement has probably not included the wheels on your case.

Cherie, TravelPro gives 2 sets of measurements - one for the case itself, and one w/wheels and handle). The one you are talking about is the 21", which is the domestic version and will fit just about any US plane.

The International bag is smaller: The overall dimensions (which includes wheels and carry handles) is H: 21.75", W: 15.75", D: 7.75". The case dimensions w/out wheels is H: 19", W: 15", D: 7.75".

I am in the same place as Mr. E. After a lot of research, I've come to the same conclusion. In the US, it's especially hard to find carry-ons that fit the European sizes (which are all different but usually a tad shorter.) I have looked quickly when gotten a chance in Europe. The sizes that they sell are very different there. Samsonite here is not the same as Samsonite there. The best case I have for fitting everywhere is a Victorinox Evolve that is no longer available. What we need is a good international shop to look for luggage. The piece has to be very light weight, as well as the correct size, to allow for weight limits. Hmmm. I might try looking at Amazon UK and have it delivered to my friend in London - who I'll see going through there sometime.

For those looking to have luggage, sold in Europe, sent to the US, there aretwo places I suggest looking you check out.

The first is Amazon. They have a global store, and they can send many things sold on other Amazonz around world to the US.

The other is Selfridges in the UK. For about 30 dollars, they can send a piece of luggage to the US and it only takes a few days. And VAT is removed. I've done that.

This article that came across my news feed says the EU is going to prohibit airlines from charging a fee for a carry-on bag and will establish a standard minimum size that must be allowed. Unfortunately, the article doesn't indicate what the standardized size will be or when this might happen.

https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/world-news/2023/09/23/650f1a95ca4741c81f8b45c1.html

Caveat: I don't know anything about that website or its reliabilty.

With government involvement, I suspect the cost of the ticket just went up, and the size of the carryon just went down. A real shame.

@Mr.E above,
You share my thoughts. There’s always going to be “blow back” in the system somewhere to balance off costs. This applies to everything.
Business and systems do best with stability and predictability. Any system that gets changed goes through an adjustment phase.

At any time, the luggage industry could police itself and agree with the airlines on standard carryon sizes, and how to measure them. Both in the US and in Europe. None of which matters if the airlines don't consistently enforce their own rules. Gov't intervention is the last resort, unlikely here in the US.

Hey Stan,
I don’t want the government micromanaging luggage. Unfortunately - different planes have different overhead cabin bin sizes and cargo hauls. Also, people pack differently on different routes. People flying to the Great Lakes States in Winter are packing differently than those traveling to an African Safari hunt. So, the ever changing standards need to remain with the airlines.

Gov't intervention is the last resort, unlikely here in the US.

Last resort for what? There isn't a problem, only upcoming elections in Europe.

Mister É, if a sufficient number of people demand an action, regardless if it's pointless, politicians generally try to pander, I mean accommodate. Not saying I think it's necessary or a good idea, but the fact that it's being discussed and proposed in the EU says there is some support for it.

Sun-baked, all I'm observing is that industries (airlines, luggage sellers) can regulate themselves, or the gov't can be persuaded to step in. Not advocating that either, and not saying diversity in carryon size between airlines is not without reason. But luggage sold as carryon size that aren't, for whatever reason, seems to be a problem for many people.

I hear you Stan. I used to think that bags could be standardized. Then, I realized that bag standardization is not possible, nor desirable. The problem is marketing as you mentioned. Reputable companies like Osprey and Eagle Creek will list proper dimensions. (Floor to Top). Many companies give dimensions that are not workable. Some numbers don’t accommodate bag expansion when packed full.

Getting advice on this site and watching reviews on YouTube can help when online shopping. If shopping in person - carry a tape ruler.

But luggage sold as carryon size that aren't, for whatever reason,
seems to be a problem for many people.

I haven't yet seen a bag advertised as carryon size that wasn't acceptable as carryon with at least one airline. Thats the problem, they found a loop hole.

EDITED: Seems to me there is a great market opportunity for RICK STEVES to make a 21.5" x 13.75" x 9" carryon bag. That one would be permitted by the rules of every airline I have checked, with the exception of Wizz and Ryan, and you could overcome that by making it 7.75" expandable to 9".

Seems to me there is a great market opportunity for someone who wants to make a 21.5" x 13.75" x 9" carryon bag.

There are plenty of bags that size. They just aren't sold in the U.S. The demand isn't there.

Americans don't want a bag that is 21.5 x 13.75 x 9 when the airlines allow 22 x 14 x 9. If they don't want to check a bag, they want the maximum allowed size bag.

Most Americans who travel stay in the US and if they do travel "internationally" it's to Canada or Mexico.

Frank. Well noted. See edit above

Regarding Travelpro, I’ll relate a conversation I had recently with the manager at a luggage store: She said that in the current offerings there is a material quality difference at the different price points for Travelpro: they’ve cheapened the MaxLite line, Crew line is OK, and the Platinum Elite is by far the best “value” and where you can expect replacement parts like wheels to be available for much longer. I think warranty also reflects the manufacture’s expectation.

I have a MaxLite 2 wheeler from years ago and love it, but based on what she said I am not confident that today’s MaxLite is the “same” product. Just something to consider.

I had the MaxLite 4, which I gave to my daughter, and it’s still going strong.

I now have the MaxLite 5, which is in great shape so far. i’ve taken it on several international trips, a number of domestic trips, and a few road trips. Plus I usually check my bag so it’s taken more abuse than a carry-on probably would.

3 bags that are about 21” x 13.75” x 9” (very close to these dimensions) are Rick Steve, 2 wheel, rolling carry-on: LLBean Approach medium rolling bag: US Traveler Rio (Amazon.com). Where it gets hard is finding a 20” or 19.5” length bag of 36 - 38 liters or so. The key is to get accurate dimensions (floor to top). All these bags have accurate dimensions. The same is true of reputable companies like Osprey, eagle creek, Eddie Bauer, etc.. YouTube reviews can help prior to online purchasing.

When measuring a bag, most people take a tape measure to it. But that's not the best way. Heres what I suggest.....Find a wall. I'm sure you have them in your home. Take the bag, put it on the floor upright if you're measuring the height. Then find a top part of the bag and make a very small pencil mark on your wall. Don't worry, you can erase that. Now, take a tape measure and measure the wall from the floor to the pencil mark. It will be much more precise.

Sunbaked, thanks. Liked the LLBean bag. Maybe a tad heavy and the price is a tad high, but .... the other bag .... naaaaa, those pockets are worthless and take storage space.

But for volume, I mostly fly airlines with a 8kg limit and run out of weight before I run out of room.

Mr. E,
There are a couple of things about the Approach bag that makes it a no go for me personally. I have an old RS bag that I still use. Yes, it tends to tip-over. But, I don’t care. I just handle it in a way that I don’t trip others in an airport. I personally would go for the US Traveler Rio. It looks a lot like my old RS case and my old Sears case - both of which are still cruising along.

I said it was a good looking bag, but I'm sold on hard sided spinners.