Men’s Travel Pants with two horizontal front zippered pockets?

Just in my experience, I don't think you will find what you are looking for.

From a practical (and style) standpoint, that is not how front pockets are cut, since you want to bend and move in that area. So pockets are cut at an angle or vertical. Lots of horizontal zippers out there, but on the back, or on the side, at thigh level; outdoor/cargo pants, they are further down the leg.

Thanks for your comments. I thought that front horizontal zippers would be the most pick pocket proof. Zippers in back or vertical down the leg seem to me relatively easy to unzip. Is that not correct?

For other designs, look at Clothing Arts and Duluth Trading Co.

I never underestimate the abilities of experienced pickpockets, people who have been picked can probably relate how they had stuff in pockets, zipped and velcro, that even they had trouble getting into, and they felt nothing.

But then, I also have not had problems. I have pants, regular slacks, that have a normal front pocket, plus a vertical zipper along the seam that is another pocket. My very thin billfold (I normally only carry a bit of cash and a card) and my passport. go in there, my phone in another pocket, but not zipped. And that is it. I would not have a problem using a zippered pocket on the side of my thigh for any of those items, which I do have one pair of pants like that.

If I really need anything else, that goes in a small crossbody bag, but I really try to avoid anything else.

Aside from that, simple awareness of your surroundings is your best defense. If you need to use your phone (for directions or to look up something) step out of the traffic flow, off to a quiet area, do what you need, then put it away. Losing your phone typically happens when you hold it out in front of you, following it around, or casually hanging out of your back pocket (like 90% of the teenage girls I see). The other bad habit (mostly for us Americans) is setting your phone on the table sitting at a street cafe or bar.

If you are distracted, looking all over, except at what is near you, and are loaded with things that can be seen in your pockets, or in an overstuffed day bag, you will be a target. Look like you have nothing to lose, look alert, relaxed, like you know where you are going, you are not worth the effort.

This is new to me, have not seen such a style. As to style this type of pants like cargo or tech pants don't appeal to me.

I am not concerned about getting picked. It's not going to happen.

In France being picked to me is overexaggerated and I go in the summer expecting and dealing with the summer crowds, presumably with bad guy chance encounters to be most likely, given the odds. I wear normal pants, nothing fancy, with a 5th zipped rear pocket added on by the tailor and taking normal basic security measures.

As a woman who still has to suffer with horizontal pockets on occasion, I can assure you that such pockets generally are not useable. Other than putting just a few coins in them, or maybe a single credit card, they typically are for style, not function. They generally are very shallow and short, which means anything larger than a single card or some change will inhibit your hip joint. The lone exception was a skort from Athleta, and that only worked because the pockets were deep enough to get the contents just below the hip crease. But I don’t know if they still make anything like that and they are also a women’s wear line. I also doubt a skort would be an acceptable substitution for you!

mennoroger, where in Europe are you going?

You might check out Aviator Jeans. I keep looking at them but haven’t been able to get past the cost.
https://aviatorusa.com/

Thanks for all comments. Going to France/England in April and riding trains/metro. Lots of comments in other conversations about pick pocket hazards on Paris Metro and other tourist locations so that's what I want to avoid. I anticipate carrying only a cell phone, and a small amount of cash in accessible pockets and everything else in an inaccessible neck pouch, but I'm trying to decide what's the safest way to carry the cell phone/cash without having to worry about it all the time. I assumed that front pockets with zippers would be more secure than side/back pockets with/without zippers, but maybe that's not correct. Suggestions welcome, especially specific pants (with an online link) that you wear that you feel are secure .....

Hi, did you look at these? Two zip pockets.
https://www.magellans.com/itemdy00.aspx?ID=115,3725&T1=MD2351+KH+32

Sounds like you're looking for western cut slacks. You might try a western-wear store for western cut mens slacks. I don't know about having zippers though. But with the pocket being horizontal, it makes it less likely that something slips out and makes it harder for someone to get a hand in, especially if you wear a belt or an untucked shirt that covers the opening.

Try Haggar. Haggar

And in general, men's slacks tend to have deep pockets, unlike women's that aren't even deep enough for your hand. Grrrrr.

David, the under 30 crowd here wear cargo pants and cargo shorts fairly regularly. Not uncommon at all. The sterotypes dont hold up well in parts of the world. Here cargo pants (or cargo shorts) a red t-shirt with a US company name across the front and a NY baseball cap (in the wrong color) is fairly typical dress for the under 30 local guys. The ladies, they do quite a bit better.

mennoroger, more important than which way your pockets zip, is to be consistent with your belongings and to be observant of your surroundings to prevent pickpocketing. Use the same pocket every time you put your phone or credit card away. Don't lay your phone down on a table. If you're outside and need to check your phone, move away from the street side.

Regarding cash, you'll find in both countries that cards are generally preferred over cash. Sometimes only cards are accepted, especially in London.

The extra care does make sense in Paris, maybe some places in London. Actually, because replacements are so difficult and there isnt your regular support network present, never hurts to show a little additional care. I have to remind myself of that when I get a little cringy about excessive worry. It really is a different situation. Tonight sitting in the winebar after reading your post I swiviled around a bit and the bartender finally asked if I was expecting someon, "no, I am counting cell phones" was my answer. She just thinks I am strange and topped off my glass. By the way, 6 on the tables I could see, 8 if you counted my two. BUT, we live there and know how to replace the phone tomorrow if need be. You nearly 4,527 miles from home is a different thing. Besides, who wants to steal a flip phone?

I know David has an opinion on how cargo pants will be received, but .... there isnt a better solution. Not all cargo pants look like heII, there are a lot of pretty sylish ones out there and the French and Spanish and English tourists that come here wear them so turn around is fair play. Just get nice-er ones. AND, it is what I do is similar situations. And do remember that most theft is theft of opportunity so if he has to fuss with a button or a zipper he will hit the guy next to you with the wallet in the back pocket instead of you. And for those that swear someone unbuttoned their whatever and took the wallet .... naaaaa they left it on the table at the last restaurant (99% of the time).

Plain old relaxed fit Levi's 505's for me at home and while traveling. Wallet in one front pocket, phone in the other. Never anything valuable in the back pockets. I do carry pro-level camera gear, but in a bag that doesn't look the part. No money belt either. I suppose being of a certain skin tone and appearing like a cheapskate petty criminals give me a pass.

It comes down to what you are comfortable with regarding your travel attire preference given the surroundings, in your case in London and Paris riding the Metro and the Tube, day or night, carrying your valuables, the phone , cash, etc.

In Paris at night I do ride bus ( actually often than the Metro) but apart from taking the usual perfunctory security measures, I don't concern myself with hazards of being picked, regardless of such happenings . You will see that some tourists are simply careless with their phones. There are times I just leave the phone in the hotel room when out and about.

Using the credit card in Paris (depends) is daily function there mainly paying for meals but no problems or concerns on carrying a large amount of cash either, ie, losing it due to the pickpocket or my own negligence....not going to happen.