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Deuter Aviant Backpacks

Hi Everyone!
I see Deuter has two versions of the Aviant bag - the 36 liter bag and the 38 liter Aviant access bag.
I like the design of the Access Bag better with the "U" shaped "tongue" zippered opening and simple large compartment. The 36 liter bag looks like it is more designed for short-term business travelers or weekenders with an "open book" style and extra compartments.

My question is: How long is the Access Bag? I am finding conflicting dimensions online. One lists it at 20" long and another at 22" long. The photo looks more like 22." Length matters to me as I am somewhat of a shorty.

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My first observation is that the given dimensions, 55x35x23 cm, make it a little over 44 liters, not 38 liters. That's about 2700 ci, outside, which is almost regulation carry-on size (2772 ci) for most US airlines. So you would have to be careful not to over-stuff the bag, as shown in the picture, or it would not fit in the sizer. The web page gives a capacity of 38 liter. The difference, 6 liters, is about 1½ gallons, or almost 400 ci (8"x8"x6¼"). The capacity differences don't add up. Nylon cloth is too heavy to explain the difference; maybe there is a lot of foam padding.

I like the cinch straps and hide-away shoulder straps, and I like the way it opens. The waist belt would be nice for over-packers, transferring weight from the shoulders to the hips, but for me, since I pack really light, it's unnecessary and just adds weight.

At 3½ #, it's too heavy for my tastes. I used to use a 1 lb 13 oz OPEC bag, but as I learned to pack less and less, it became too big, and, lacking compression straps, the load sank to the bottom of the bag. So I reluctantly switched to a 2 lb 11 oz eTech Weekender Jr. to get the compression straps. Now I am considering switching to a Hynes Eagle, which has compression straps, but weighs less than 1¾ lb.

Since they are marketing this bag in the US, it would be nice to have the specifications listed in units Americans can easily understand, but since they are German, I guess we can forgive them.

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Thanks for the feedback. I really like the design of the Access Bag. But, I need to stay with 19-20" and 38 - 40 liters. I can't handle longer bags with more than 40 liters. I'll stay with my old ebags etech 2.0 Junior bag. (I wish ebags had not discontinued these bags a long time ago. I like them better than the newer bags like the Motherlode Jr..)

You luggage collectors/users are great for this kind of advice.

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luggage collectors/users [sigh]

Guilty as charged. I started travel to Europe back in 2000 with an RS convertible bag. Then I switched to the OPEC bag. Then I acquired the eTech Jr. bag, which I have used once for Europe, but multiple times domestically. I still have all three plus the Eagle bag which I intend to start using whenever we can go back.

In the interim, I bought an RS Appenzell bag and a Goodhope Travelwell bag, both at around 1400 ci. Both are around 1400 ci, which is big enough for what I take to Europe, but just barely. The Appenzell bag doesn't open wide; it's like a backpack (top opening). I use it bag for a gym bag, and I have used the Goodhope bag for short car trips.

BTW, the Hynes bag is listed at 20cm, or 8-7/8" thick. I think that might be pushing it by a little. It's probably more like 30-33 liters, but it's big enough for me.

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Hi Lee,
"luggage collector/user". I was struggling to come-up with an appropriate term. I was thinking luggage ... Addict, junkie, expert, lover, etc.. Perhaps, luggage afficionado. OCD?

I have an array of bags. Use all of them depending on travel needs. I have the Appenzell as well.

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Yeah, collector/user was being nice. I'd like to say expert, but it probably more like an addict or junkie.

I'm kind of like Diogenes, looking for, but never finding, the perfect travel bag.

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Lee, bonus points for a mythological reference.
Sun, glad to see you are back to shopping!!!

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He destroyed the single wooden bowl he possessed on seeing a peasant boy drink from the hollow of his hands. He then exclaimed: "Fool that I am, to have been carrying superfluous baggage all this time" (Ascribed to Diogenes)

Not sure he would be happy about having his name used in a "Packing" and baggage topic

Lee may end up being haunted and having nightmares with a tragic Greek twist

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Its not particularly stylish but the original RS backdoor bag has served me well for over a dozen years. I was having to pack to the carry on limit for my trip to Europe a few weeks ago so I checked the airlines (Turkish Air) for dimensions and weight limits for the carry on and the personal item. The RS bag was the exact max dimension and the fact that it weighs next to nothing really helped to meet the weight requirements. For the personal item i found a bag on Amazon for $14 that was the exact maximum size. 8 kilo max in one and 4 kilo max in the other. Worked for a 10 day trip with fishing rod, net waders/boots, etc. Pretty sweet.

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Hi There Doric!
Joe32 - so, Diogenes was an extreme minimalist packer? An ascetic monk-type of guy? (I will have to look him up.)

I wish North Face would make a 38 liter base camp duffel. There's a 31 liter size and a 50 liter size. I think North Face may be missing out here.