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1st time for carry-on-only internationally - need clothing feedback!

Hi all!

We're ready to ditch the big suitcase and become more agile in our travels. Could you give me your fresh insight on a realistic packing strategy for this 55yo gal? I'll work with my husband on his later. :)

I tend to overheat easily and want ligher-weight clothing that dries quickly when handwashing, so I'm planning a small travel wardrobe revamp. Comfort with pockets and a good cross-body bag! :) I've made note of some of the brands favored by many on the forum, but your fresh insights and suggestions would be most welcome.

For our first carry-on-only adventure, we'll travel to London (6 nights incl. day trip to Oxford), Normandy (2 nights), Paris (5 nights incl day trip to the Amboise area) in April/May. If an experience requires "fancy" clothes, it's a hard pass for us. We'll be focused on history, local/cultural immersion, our personal interest one-off's, food, our personal can't-miss landmarks, and a couple of high impact (2-3 hours) museum visits.

I've shared below my initial packing thoughts and would appreciate your constructive criticism. I do have packing cubes (not compression) and expect we'll do in-room laundry mid-trip. Tennis shoes will be worn on flights and trains.

  • Black pants (1)
  • Casual/daily pants (5)
  • Casual dress (maybe 1)
  • Shirts/t-shirts (5)
  • Long-sleeve t-shirt (1)
  • Cardigan (1)
  • Pashmina (1 - perfect for plane/train travel and a "bed jacket")
  • Flats (1 pair)
  • Undies (6)
  • Anti-chafe slip shorts (1-2)
  • Socks (6)
  • Bras (1 worn, 1 packed)
  • Fast-drying nightshirt (1)
  • Mesh laundry bag

Toiletries are a separate focus once I nail down the clothes.

Thanks!

Alison

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I think you have too many pants. I usually go with four bottoms. For a recent trip to Greece in May, I had one pair long pants, one ankle pants, one capri length, and one gaucho style pants. This worked for me for the variety of weather we had and activities.

I would also take a raincoat.

We do some in room laundry but also try to get apartments with a washing machine (usually no dryer).

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I agree you have too many pants. I'd get rid of 2. You also need some type of lightweight rain jacket and a hat that can hopefully do double duty as protection from sun or rain. Try doing a trial pack with your current packing list to see if everything you need fits into your carry on and personal item bags. If the weather turns hot, plan on doing laundry twice rather than once.

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FWIW- my next trip will be 20 days in the Fall and I take almost all Merino wool, as you wear multiple times before laundering, hand washes & dries quickly, excellent temperature regulating and packs down small.
All of this is merino wool (almost all from WoolX):
3 pants- two light weight and one heavier (heavier worn on the plane).
4 shirt-. 2 long sleeve, 2 short sleeve
3 underwear.
3 socks
1 bra
Plus one of each of the above, worn on the plane with the heavier pants

Then, extra shoes (waterproof), light jacket, rain shell (we'll be in rain) and I always carry a pashmina.
I wouldn't go that bare bones if it wasn't merino.
Good luck! It is nice to be able to travel light

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Great question! Consider the weight and ease of your bag, some of us prefer backpacks, I only use a 2-wheeler roller bag because it's lighter.

Personally, I travel with 2 pairs of Mt Hardware pants (REI, they have a long zipper on the side that easily fits a cellphone) & one pair of light weight yoga pants for evenings in hotels, along with a T-shirt nice enough to wear to breakfast. I would carry a packable down jacket rather than a sweater, it will warm you up more and you can layer it under your raincoat.

Only one pair of flats wouldn't work for me, but how are your feet? For April / May in England, you should probably consider waterproof walking shoes, plus I use Oofos sandals for hotel rooms.

Watch out for all those 'extras' and what I call the 'what ifs'. I don't add to my final packing, I pack far in advance laying everything out on the dining room table to visualize what's needed. And I only wear comfortable, broken in clothing, nothing new that might chafe, shrink, whatever. Good luck! Oops, others replied, sorry for redundancies, I would also add gloves to the list.

Here's my last packing report, but for warmer weather than you might have. https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/packing/packing-report-for-sunny-skies-6-nights-in-germany

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I agree, too many pants. Sorry for the redundancies.
I take :
3 pair pants, pack 2 and wear 1
6 shirts total, LS and SS, pack 5 and wear 1
All are mix and match
1 Cashmere or yak sweater, pack in tote.
1 pashmina for plane and evening.
4 sets undies, pack 3, wear 1
5 pair socks, 2 or 3 of which are compression socks
PJs (shorts & t-shirt)
1 pair walking shoes
1 pair sandals
Jacket and/or raincoat
No dresses.

Everything is hand washable. I take foldable hangers and powdered Forever New laundry soap.

Since I travel solo independently or on RS tours, no one is going to pay attention how many times I wear each outfit. Mix and match colors gives you more outfits with less clothes.

Then there are lotions and potions for daily upkeep, bath bag, technology gadgets. Can’t forget my PayDay candy bars. Don’t forget your money belt.

Packing weight goal is 20lbs for rolling carry-on and 7lbs for tote.

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For traveling 2 weeks or more I plan a stop in a laundromat. In less than 90 minutes I'm in and out. Unlike some, I don't find it a hardship. I may grab a coffee or glass of wine nearby and I have had some nice conversations with both locals and other travelers while waiting. I am not a fan of in room laundry with the exception of occasional underwear/bras.

A lightweight , packable, waterproof raincoat/jacket is a non negotiable.

And consider the weight of your empty bag. Several years ago a replaced an almost 8 lb. roller with a spinner coming in under 5 lb. Huge difference! If I can ever find a decent bag (not backpack) under 4 lbs, I'll buy it.

Just before departure take a look at the forecasts. Add or subtract warmer/cooler layers as needed.

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I agree with posters' replies - too many pants. Changing your top but keeping the same pant changes the overall look to appear new/different.
Yes Jodi - I've been purchasing WoolX items and find them to be very comfortable and fast drying when I hang dry after hand washing. I've started to lay out my outfits for hot hot Corsica in 2 weeks and my merino woolX bra and briefs will be included.
As for pashmina - I have 3 different weights and fabrics... For Corsica in July it will be my lightweight cottony gauze for wrapping over my shoulders on a possible cold international flight and then while on excursions it will be in my tote for cooler evening temps and proper coverage in cathedrals.

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Your hotel might send your laundry out or do it in house for a fee. Last year in Slovenia, one of my favorite parts of a two week trip was going to the laundromat with my husband and figuring it out together. If you truly like “cultural immersion,” it’s a fun way to do that!

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I obtain great ideas on packing the right clothes, putting together a capsule wardrobe, shoes, etc on a FB page and website known as Travel Fashion Girls. I also get ideas looking at Pinterest.

Looking at your list-- April and May weather can run the gamut. Bring a water proof jacket that can also double as a run around coat too. I wear a Gortex Marmot that has logged about 100,000 travel miles--it goes everywhere and is perfect for wind, rain and chilly temps. Layers. The correct walking shoes for conditions. Scarves are must have accessories--bring a couple of them or buy a couple in London and France! You could wear your cardigan everyday and change scarves and noone would know.

Although you tend to be warm, the humidity and if it's chilly, you can get cold. Weather doesn't ruin a trip, the wrong clothes will! I would bring a pair of jeans and drop 4 pairs of pants. I like to pack comfy clothes -like a pair of shorts or leggings with an oversized tee shirt (also can sleep in it) to kick around the room. You will be doing a lot of walking. A pair of recovery flip flops can make a huge difference and can be used in the hotel room too in lieu of slippers.

Pickpockets are not a joke -- cross body bag like a Pacsafe is very handy. I own 3 of them and use whatever the trip dictates for size and what I'll need.

Bring a packable tote bag to bring home souveniers-- I like the RS "don't tell Rick bag". You can check a bag on the way home and celebrate the liberation of traveling light this trip. Sounds like a good trip!

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I haven’t tried merino, but after reading Jodi’s endorsement maybe I will. Many of the shirts and pants I take are marketed to hikers or athletes — lightweight and quick drying, and they tend not to wrinkle. Mountain Hardwear, Kuhl, Marmot, and REI’s own brand are good brands.

I only took 3 pairs of pants for 19 days in Ireland and Scotland. We did real laundry once (luckily our hotel had machines!), and a little sink laundry here and there.

Do keep in mind that many European airlines have weight limits for carry-ons, and they ARE ALL DIFFERENT. (It’s crazy-making!) I’ve seen as little as 7 kg (about 15 lbs) and as much as 23 kg (50 lb).

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Hi, I have relatives coming to stay so I don’t have time to read the replies. But seeing the list, that’s way too many clothes for a carry on.

Before you pick a number of anything- pants, shirts, socks or underwear, pause and think through it this way: how long before something just worn is available to be worn again? If a shirt is a quick-drying fabric and you’re washing it in the sink at night, then you could essentially wear it again the next day. I realize you want some variety but you could easily get by with much less thinking this way. I usually bring a pair of pants and two dresses and wear a second pair of pants on the plane. A few shirts & a layer, and I’m fine for a month. I have a favorite Royal Robbin’s dress that I wear almost every other day on some warm trips. It looks nice on me, it’s very comfortable and it’s always washed & clean each time. I wash something each evening and hang it in the shower.

Something I would increase in your list. I always pack two bras plus the one on the plane. In case one has an issue, or it’s a sweaty hot day, I can change.

I bring a Cotopaxi 35L which I absolutely love. I use a packing cube for underwear, but the mesh sides of the Cotopaxi eliminate the need for other clothing packing cubes. My bag isn’t full, so there’s no need for compression, rolling clothes or other misc. ways to try to bring more.

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I won't repeat the pants advice, but the first thing that came to my attention was that you only have one pair of shoes. I would strongly consider 2 pair—a pair of walking shoes (on my upcoming trip, I'm wearing a pair of Merrell Moab 3 hiking shoes as I like to walk a lot) and a pair of casual flats for evening or short walks, etc).

If you just bring one pair, you will have to wear them every day, through rain and shine and mile after mile. Your feet will feel much better if they can switch shoes occasionally. Second, if they were to get wet (which is always a possibility), then you're stuck wearing wet shoes. Nobody wants that.

Other than that, it looks pretty good (barring the pants, of course). 😊

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I carry an RS back door bag (convertible w/waistbelt if there is no weight restriction, classic if there is). I like both hands free, don't like wheels/handle counting toward weight limits, and more and more lately my spouse has had wheeled bag gate-checked which defeats the whole point of hand-carry-only. Inside my RS bag apart from clothes is my camera bag, about 10cmX12cmX6cm weighing 2,5kg. I also carry a Civita daypack (contains what I want at hand on the plane, then as a walkabout bag at destinations).

I bring 3 100% merino tops (dark colours, doesn't show spills) regardless of trip length. Wash them in hotel sink as needed...which is typically after 4-6 days wear. They are that good at resisting odours. I buy them on the 'Bay NWT typically 50% of store prices. Pack 2, wear 1 on plane...with a cotton shirt over it as backpack will abrade merino quickly. Trousers: one pair dark indigo stretch jeans (worn on plane), one pair ultralight nylon packed. I bring a little spray bottle (empty of course) to fill with cheap vodka and mist the jeans if needed. Works a treat, dries quickly.

Socks: 1 pair medium compression merino blend (Duluth Trading), 2 pair Thorlo walking, 2 pair Wigwam polypropylene liner socks (I double-sock for walking ow get blisters).

Underwear: 3 sets, Ex-Officio nylon, dries overnight (faster w help of hairdryer)

Shoes: wear Mephistos, pack 1 pair lightweight Hokas. 1 pair flat airline slippers we got 25 years ago on an overnight flight to Bangkok.
Outerwear depends on climate. As little tech as possible (just phone, no laptop or tablet), 1 indentical cord/charger for each of us, so we have a backup. One 1,5m extension cord each, male end gets local adapter, female end is triple outlet native to our devices. Small RS cosmetics bag in addition to the 3-1-1 ziplock.

Use an old fisherman scale to weigh bags at home to keep under limits.

We don't travel to the wilderness or third-world countries so worst-case we'd just pop into a store and buy something if we absolutely have to, even if we need to leave it behind on our last day.

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When you’re thinking about your husband’s options, my husband liked bringing golf pants because they’re lighter weight.

And you can still attend something more formal by adding a pretty scarf to a dress or with a shirt & black pants and your flats shoes. My husband wore his black golf pants and a lightweight sweater to the Vienna opera house for a ballet, for instance. I’ve attended lots of formal concerts wearing either a dress or a fancy scarf wrapped over a black 32 Degree microthin top & black pants.

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I heartily endorse merino tops and undies (have not tried the bras or pants). I have many colors of long sleeve tops from Costco. Either my husband or I have a WoolX one. The undies are from REI. I usually have one or cardi and a fleece. I have at the most 4 pairs of pants. For our early May trip to UK, I wore waterproof Oboz. My black pants were long enough to feel ok wearing the sneakers for a little dressier occasions. My 4 pairs of socks are wool, at least 2 are compression.

Sounds like a fun trip!