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Where to base?

Hi all!

Hoping for a suggestion since there are soooo many places to go!

Background, me and my two teen boys, traveling with friend and her two pre-teen boys. My family has traveled pretty extensively in Europe (hist most of the "biggies"), and so has my friend, but her kids have not been. They will have just finished a 9 day tour of Italy with their chorus (Rome, Florence, Venice), so need to repeat those as we will all have been there.

We are hoping to find a home exchange somewhere for 7-14 days - we can split locations maybe, but really looking for a nice base we can stay in, and then maybe day trip out, or side trip out (spending 1-2 nights in hotel somewhere)... we did this in Montreal last year and it was awesome!

Possible contenders so far as places that may be willing to exchange - Lyon, Marseilles, Nice, Mulhouse, San Sebastian. Next I will look for others but not sure other good contending places? Since they haven't been, I was thinking France or Germany, but not opposed to Netherlands or...? Don't really want to go to Scandanavia since my husband wants to go there too and he will not be with us. Also, this is in July, so probably not southern Spain!

Any other good "hub" locations besides the obvious ones (Paris, Munich, etc..)? The kids will like active things, but also history, architecture, water would be good.... we have pretty well rounded interests.

Thanks for any advice of somewhere awesome maybe I have not thought of!

Kim

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San Sebastian for better, cooler weather. Any you can visit both Spanis and French Basque regions easily.

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28247 posts

Yes, all the French places you mention can be very hot in summer, though certainly not at the same level as Andalucía. San Sebastian will likely be much, much more temperate. I did some checking before traveling there last June and found that on very rare occasions the temperature might spike, but it was typically for just a day or so, as opposed to potentially extended periods of 80-85-90+ degree weather elsewhere. The weather is not reliably warm and sunny on the Basque coast, so don't count on swimming every day.

From my perspective (not a beach person or bar-hopper) San Sebastian is not overwhelmingly blessed with things to do. I'd anticipate that you will be spending a lot of time making trips outside of town. Do you plan to have one or two cars, or will you be using buses and trains? Although I liked the Basque Country a lot, I'm a fan of scenery and pretty architecture. I'm not sure there will be enough liveliness and variety for a group including four non-adults.

Bilbao is worth a couple of visits for people who like art, or one for those who don't. The bus is much faster than the train, which is a narrow-gauge affair running through really nice countryside that I fear might be of little interest to the youngsters.

The interior capital of the Alava province, Vitoria-Gasteiz, has a large medieval district on a hill and several museums. Not very touristy. As of last summer one could take a tour of the cathedral, which was then (and probably still is) under renovation. That might appeal to the kids.

The border town of Hondarribia is picturesque, as are the towns of Zarautz/Getaria/Zumaia. I walked between a couple of those towns, right along the coast.

Farther away (overnighting best) you have the Altamira Cave near Santillana del Mar, which has prehistoric paintings. I don't know the details, but prior arrangements are needed for visiting it. Santillana del Mar itself is a very cute, historic (and touristy) town, but again I'm doubtful about how much interest it will hold for the typical teenager or sub-teen.

Beyond Santillana and inland is the Picos de Europa mountainous area, the most dramatic scenery I've seen in Spain. I've read that there are some active sports opportunities there. The old stone town of Potes is very pretty and may be the best base. Elsewhere in the area there's a mountain lift that gets you up into the peaks. This area is definitely worth investigating, but pay attention to the timing. Public buses and tour buses into much of that area do not begin until July. I don't know when the mountain lift opens for the summer, and white-water activities might operate within a very limited period.

Other affordable places where you don't generally have to worry about heatstroke are the Dolomites in Italy (where I doubt that you'd find a summertime swap), Normandy/Brittany in France (where your chances might be a bit better), or basically anywhere in the UK. London, of course, is a fabulous destination. If you could find a swap within a 1-hour commute... But you'd need to check out the price of transportation into the city to be sure getting six people into the city frequently would be affordable. There are two-for-one possibilities with the appropriate sort of rail ticket at some of London's sights, and others are free.

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4132 posts

Lyon is an amazing place with lots for every taste. There is a huge summer performing arts festival there too, under the night sky on a hill in an old Roman theater. Day trips possible by car or train; Provence is just an hour away by TGV.

It will be hot there; I imagine a siesta would be the right course of action, and air conditioning would be a must. But long, long days in July, so that could work.

It's a really fun town. I'd certainly choose it over Marseilles. Read a guidebook and see what you think.

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With teen (ish) boys I would say Antibes for a week on the Cote d’Azur and then Barcelona for a week. You have the beach at both locations, plus plenty more to do besides.

July Averages
Barcelona: 21-28c with 2 days of rain.
San Sebastián: 16-25c with 11 days of rain.
Antibes: 18-27c with 2 days of rain.
Arles: 18-30c with 4 days of rain.

Note that San Sebastián has more rainy days and cooler sea temps.

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12315 posts

San Sebastian will be nice in July, I'm not sure it's close to many places.

Riviera would be nice in July. Nice is a decent city, haven't heard good things about Marseilles so chose not to visit.

I liked Lyon but I only really wanted to see Vienne and Perouges from there, is there more that would make it a good base?

Other suggestions:

Strasbourg is a nice city and gives you reasonable access to Alsace, Burgundy, even some of Germany and Champagne. It should be nice in July but the big draw, wine, isn't best for kids. There are other interesting sights in the area too (battle of Alesia, Heidelburg Castle, Haut Koenigsbourg Castle and nearby monkey mountain, medieval towns and churches).

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Hello Kim. If you and your group will have overnight acomodation at one place, every night, I recommend going to Paris. I think you would want to be at Paris four whole days, plus day trips via trains. And, if six people will travel together in Europe, I think having overnight acomodation at only one place is a good idea. Many people liked doing sightseeing in Alsace in France, but I think Mulhouse is not a good location for the overnight acomodation in Alsace. And people need a rental car in Alsace. In Germany, I could enjoy being at the Rhine River and Mossel River area (between Mainz and Koblenz and Cochem) seven days, but I think Frankfurt is not a convenient location for overnight acomodation for such a trip.