When will the holidays restart?

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No-body knows. The Spanish appear to have spoken too soon by stating that Germans can visit in the summer but the British will have to wait until the autumn because they were behind other European countries in implementing a lockdown. I'm not sure what the knock on effect this caused within the German travel industry and general public but Germany is now reporting an increase in infection rates after relaxing their lockdown rules.

Will this result in the Spanish backtracking on their rules? Will this result in angry Germans who may have made travel plans to Spain in the summer as a result of the announcement? Will it result in thousands of Brits eschewing Spain and opting instead for Greece who are keen to welcome them with open arms? Have the Spanish shot themselves in the foot?

It's all too much of an unknown and whilst everyone wants an end to the stringent lockdowns and start the economic recovery no-body really knows what the effects will be of lifting a lockdown too early (I think we can ignore any 'evidence' from China). One can look at Australia and New Zealand as examples of apparent recovering nations however their population density is a big factor in the reduction of cases and this is something to bare in mind when comparing those two countries with Europe.

For us ?,it won’t be till next year - it’s not the destinations we fear - but the 9 hours in plane with hundreds of other people .

I've read some anecdotal information; but one country to watch is Montenegro. They seem to be pushing to reopen their tourist infrastructure. But like everyplace, its still wait and see. Just in case I have my fly rod by the door.

I've read some anecdotal information; but one country to watch is Montenegro. They seem to be pushing to reopen their tourist infrastructure.

I'd love to return to Montenegro without the cruise monoliths and the crowds but how many other people have the same idea? If the country opens up to to tourism but surrounding countries don't follow suit you then risk an unmanageable influx into a country with a limited infrastructure unsuitable to any potential widescale health crisis.

I'm of the opinion that there needs to be a wider, agreed opening rather than individual countries doing it alone, particularly the smaller, more tourist dependant ones.

For us, vacations will restart when we can rebuild our financial security.

Nobody knows. There may be a sweet spot for travel in the July-September time frame before a resurgence of seasonal flu and COVID-19 in the late fall and winter. That's what the CDC is expecting. The issue is travelling somewhere, the virus surges, and you're screwed.

JC, how many would actually go before a vaccine is ready? I'm banking on not many. I know this great little spot in the north with plenty of trout and grayling; each calling my name.

James E, I don't know grayling, but all the fish down here are lying so-and-so's when they call your name. Well, when they call my name, anyway. The phrase "seduced and abandoned" comes to mind.

Jane, besides they are speaking Montenegrin so maybe they are saying something else?

JC, how many would actually go before a vaccine is ready? I'm banking on not many.

I'm banking on quite a lot if judging by the widespread reports of people not adhering to the simple and not particularly draconian (in the UK at least) lockdown rules. There is still a widely held belief that "it won't happen to me" or "it only effects the elderly or those with underlying health conditions". In fact some of the worst offenders for not sticking to social distancing rules that I've experienced are those aged 60+.

• In fact some of the worst offenders for not sticking to social distancing rules that I've experienced are those aged 60+.*

This is so true. I now shop during senior hours at Trader Joes, Whole Foods, etc. Everyone on line waiting to get in practices social distancing and wears masks. But once the store opens, it's back to their old habits. If they want to look on a shelf next to where you're standing, they don't wait. They just walk up right next to you, stop and look. They are in their own little world caring about no one else.

I just haven't seen a lot of that. Some, but not much. But I believe you. I am in one of the states that had pretty lax rules and still things appeared to go as intended.

Not traveling with out a vaccine was a tiny bit of sarcasm. I suspect that those who shut down their lives until there is a vaccine will be less than half.