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Updated Itinerary

Hello all! Could I get some advice to see if this itinerary is still too ambitious? Also, would you recommend reserving hotels and hostels ahead of time or just as we go? We are traveling from March 10-April 29. Thanks!

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11 arrive at 2:35, Barcelona

12 Barcelona

13 Barcelona

14 Besalu; stay in Barcelona

15 early flight and train, Wexford or Kilkenny or Howth

16 Wexford; late train; stay in Dublin

17 Dublin

18 Dublin

19 Dublin

20 early flight to Edinburgh; stay in Dundee

21 Edinburgh; stay in Dundee

22 Highlands; stay in Dundee

23 Highlands; stay in Dundee

24 Edinburgh; afternoon flight to London

25 London

26 London

27 London

28 Cambridge/London

29 Dover--> Calais--> Normandy; hop off at Norville and hop on

30 Normandy

31 Loire Valley; early train in

1 Loire Valley

2 Paris; early train

3 Paris

4 Paris

5 Paris; Night Train to Amsterdam

6 Amsterdam

7 Amsterdam/Kekenhof; Night Train to Rhine

8 Rhine; start at St. Goar (stay in Bacharach for Rhine explorations)

9 Rhine

10 Rhine

11 Rhine

12 Rhine/easter or Rothenburg/easter

13 early train to Rothenburg

14 early train to Munich

15 Munich

16 Munich; NT to Zermatt

17 Zermatt

18 Zermatt

19 Zermatt, Night Train to Venice

20 Venice

21 Venice and Cinque Terre

22 Cinque Terre

23 Cinque Terre

24 train to Tuscany to explore for the day; Night train to Rome

25 Rome

26 Rome, night flight

27 Athens

28 Athens

29 flight at 6:00

Thanks!

Posted by
1358 posts

I could do that trip easily at my pace. You may be able to do it; but much depends on your pace and the amount of time you prefer to rest when traveling.

If you are flexible and realize it is to your advantage to depart from your schedule when you want to, this will be a good start.

You should keep in mind that you can add activities or delete some when necessary. Keep in mind that travel should be an adventure and fun. When it ceases to be, change your itinerary.

I look at my schedule for the next few days every morning and decide if I want to make changes.

Posted by
15079 posts

No Florence?

Only 1 full day in Venice and 1 1/2 in Rome, yet almost 3 full days in Zermatt and 3 full days on the Rhine?

Why stay in Dundee for your entire stay in Scotland? Why not split it between Edinburgh and the Highlands?

And at the end you add two days in Athens. I'd skip Greece this trip and add those days as either leisure days to rest or in a couple of the cities.

Posted by
4132 posts

Wow, what a trip!

One specific suggestion: On the 29th you "hop on" to something. I hope that something is a car, because with such little time in Normandy you will need one to sightsee. I would keep that car as far as the Loire Valley.

Also: I think your plan to spend part of a day in Tuscany might justify the night train to Rome (is there one?), but might not. I'd make a plan for the day--it's not a lot of time--and then think about it.

Have a great time!

Posted by
3250 posts

Kallie,
Have you calculated the amount of time you'll spend traveling between each of these destinations? You may find that you're spending more time en-route than actually at your destination.

Posted by
21 posts

thanks for the help so far! to answer a few of your questions
we arestaying in dundee b/c we have a family member there where we can stay for free so we thought if we stayed between the two and, hopefully, borrowed his car we could get free room/board
we were thinking about zermatt and rhine as rest periods from our vacay is why we are spending so long tehre... bad idea??
also, unfortuantely we booked our flight out of athens so we need to end there,... i have realized that this was probably a poor decision as we figured out more detailed plans
and, finally, i am trying to figure out trains and i know some of them are long, but i am just not sure what to cut out of our trip... any suggestions?

Posted by
3250 posts

Hi Kallie,
If you haven't done so already I think that you would find it helpful to get a copy of Rick Steves Best of Europe 2009 (or other guidebook.) Look at maps for geographical proximity and decide on your sightseeing priorities. You'll have to decide what makes the most sense but, if you are starting in Barcelona consider going from there into southern France. Then, decide how to most efficiently travel to Italy, Austria, Germany, and the Netherlands. You could then do your UK travel spots and possibly fly from London to Athens. I'd consider skipping Dublin and Switzerland to spend more time in Italy, etc. You can use Which Budget to find out which budget airlines from from various European cities and you'll want to look at the Rail Travel sites as well. It will take some planning but that's part of the fun and you'll have a great trip!

Posted by
1717 posts

Hello Kallie. I think you are looking at an excessive number of destinations. I recommend : cut out Dublin and Amsterdam. A high speed train goes from Paris to Koblenz in Germany (Rhine river). Add days to Italy and Greece. Fly from Rome to Athens, in a morning, and that day fly from Athens to an island of Greece (Agean Sea), enjoy being there for a few days, fly back to Athens, 2 nights at Athens (visit the National Archaeological Museum in Athens). I recommend : do not do any night trains.

Posted by
1717 posts

And add one or two days to Switzerland.

Posted by
1717 posts

Kallie, I recommend : reserve rooms for your overnight accomodations, for each night, before you fly to Europe. When you are at Europe, if you decide to change your travel plan, you could cancel a room reservation (via Telephone or E-mail).

Posted by
12040 posts

Looks good to me. Towards the end, you have a number of night trains. If you haven't experienced one yet, you may find a solid night of sleep hard to achieve (or you may find the exact opposite...). But, at least you gave yourself several days at each destination, so if needed, you will have enough time to recover.