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I plan on doing these trips next summer. If you made the same trip, what were your experiences or what tips can you give me. Especially if you flew since this will be the first time I will fly between cities in Europe probably using budget airlines. I have taken trains before on previous trips. All these trips are on different days.

Venice to Florence (train)
Florence to Rome (train)
Rome to Budapest (fly?)
Budapest to Cesky Krumlov (bus?)
Cesky Krumlov to Prague (train or bus ?)
Prague to Amsterdam (fly?)

Posted by
3874 posts

We did the following 2 summers ago, 4 adults

  • Prague to Cesky Krumlov via kutna Hora (toured silver mine and bone church) with ckshuttle (144€)
  • CK to Vienna, same driver (116€) -Vienna to Bratislava with LOD.sk hydrofoil (92€). This is a Slovakian company, the Austrian hydrofoil was almost 100€ each.
  • Bratislava to Budapest via Student Agency bus (36€) 1€ extra each bag All prices were for the 4 of us, not each. All went very smoothly, drivers were on time, professional, boat, bus was clean. Would use each one again.

Found information in Rick's book and on this forum.

Posted by
11294 posts

You say you've never flown between cities in Europe before, but have you taken trains or buses in Europe before? This will help people give more useful replies.

If you have taken trains in Europe, there's nothing extra to know about the trains between Venice, Florence, and Rome, except for the tips about advance purchase, non-refundable, discount tickets. There are lots of posts about this; here's a very recent one: https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/italy/confused-on-booking-train-reservations-and-tickets-by-website-help

For Cesky Krumlov to Prague, there are several bus companies. The bus is faster than the train - if it doesn't get stuck in traffic. And there's no bathroom on the bus. When mine took 5 hours (instead of the scheduled 3) due to road construction, some people had to hop out and go in the bushes.

Too much information? Maybe, but you asked. The good news is that my trip took place in 2007, so that construction is definitely done.

For budget flights, do a dummy booking for each option (up to the point where you put in your credit card). This is the only way to see all the fees and rules. Note that the legacy carriers can be cheaper in the end, since they can include things that cost extra on the budget airlines.

If your baggage exceeds the carryon limits (and on a budget carrier, it probably will), be sure to pay for checked baggage online, at the time of booking, or at least before you get to the airport. They charge more if you do it at the airport.

Ryanair requires a passport check, in a separate line, before they let you board. Look into the details of this so you're prepared (it's not reported to be hard, but if you miss this step, you could miss your plane).

Some budget airlines require you to print your boarding pass before getting to the airport - again, check before you get burned.

And if a carrier says it allows one carryon, they mean only one - not a carryon plus a personal item. If you can stuff your purse into your carryon and make it one bag, fine; otherwise, you have to check something.

Many of the complaints about budget airlines are from people who didn't read the rules, or didn't think the rules would apply to them, or didn't understand that the rules will be interpreted strictly (since this is how they make money). If they say the maximum size allowed is 50 cm, don't think they will let through a 51 cm bag; they will consider it oversize, and not only charge you as such, but a higher charge than if you had paid it in advance.

Again, a legacy carrier such as Alitalia or KLM is likely to have a more generous allowance for both carryons and checked bags, included in the base price. So, they can sometimes work out better in the end.

Posted by
5697 posts

This spring we took a shared CKshuttle from Vienna to Cesky Krumlov and Cesky Krumlov to Prague -- easy hotel pickup and delivery, efficient and pleasant driver, nice ride. (ckshuttle.cz)
Also flew Ryan Air from Venice (Trevino) to Budapest. Flight was fine but DO NOT take their shared shuttle into Budapest. Taxi from the official stand is not that much more, and we waited about 40 minutes for the driver to show up (Ryan doesn't give you the scheduled time until after you give them the non-refundable shuttle fare)

As others have noted, Italian train trips are easy ... and cheap if you book far ahead.

And budget airlines are REALLY diligent about the number, size and weight of baggage items. We had bags that "might" have been carry-on, but we paid check-in fees ahead of time to avoid hassles (and much higher prices) at the gate. Also, make sure you know which airport(s) the budget airline uses, and how long/how much it takes to get there.

Posted by
7175 posts

Without Salzburg or Vienna in your plans it probably is more efficient to do Cesky Krumlov as a shuttle by bus from Prague. At 3 hours each way that makes for a long travel time if doing in one day.

Another option would be to pick up the night train for Venice in Linz.

Fly in to Amsterdam
Fly to Budapest
Train to Prague
Bus to Cesky Krumlov
Bus to Linz. Night train to Venice
Train to Florence
Train to Rome
Fly out of Rome

Posted by
598 posts

Harold - Definitely NOT too much information.
I have taken trains before and driven.
I don't want to rent a car this time.

(I updated my post)

Posted by
7041 posts

I spent a night in Cesky Krumlov which I highly recommend as opposed to a day trip from Prague. I got there by shuttle from Salzburg and then took a bus from CK to Prague. The train didn't work out for me so I took the bus and it was a good experience. The bus was very comfortable and the ride was very smooth. I don't remember which bus service it was but I think it was Student Agency.

Posted by
15593 posts

Great advice so far. For planning, bahn.de is the best rail site to see schedules for European trains. rome2rio.com is good for finding/comparing different travel options - the times they give pretty much include transfer and waiting times. To find train prices, you will need to go to specific websites. When comparing times/prices between air and train travel, include the extra to get to/from airports plus check-in time and baggage claim time.

For Italy, use trenitalia.com. You have to put in the city names in Italian (there's autofill). You'll want Venezia Santa Lucia and Firenze SMN (Santa Maria Novella). There's another high-speed train on those routes which may give you better times and/or prices.

The only other advice that springs to mind is how long at each destination, perhaps the most important consideration of all.

Posted by
14556 posts

Hi,

With your propsed itinerary I would use the night train option and fly the budget airlines. For Rome to Budapest: fly to Munich, take the EN night train, Munich-BP

Posted by
7041 posts

I'm confused Fred, why would you fly from Rome to Munich just to take a night train to Budapest - all that time and cost? You can fly non-stop from Rome to Budapest on a budget airline in a couple of hours for <$75 (non-refundable) when purchased ahead of time. And I didn't see Munich on the OP's itinerary. Maybe I'm off base but it doesn't make any sense to me.

Posted by
14556 posts

I'll let the OP decide that. Maybe he wants to spend a day or two in Munich, or would prefer going by train in the first place. If that is the case, take the train all the way from Rome to Budapest. You would need to go through Munich anyway.