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Train schedule and tickets after December 14

If you see the European Winter train schedule and fares post (for travel after December 14) could you post a “heads up” on the forum. According to Seat61 sometime in October.
thanks

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Renee, not sure which train line you are asking about, but I would have guessed prior to the end of November ... lets watch.

EDIT Apparently the End of November post got deleted.

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It all depends on the country. For Switzerland next years timetable is already known, but not yet in the database on www.sbb.ch
For most of central Europe I expect the times to be available around mid october.

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In the UK for instance the new timetables are already known. They may not be published on train companies websites, but are now confirmed and in industry systems.
As soon as 2 or 3 month booking deadlines (depending on the train company) are reached they will show on the various journey planning tools.

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TGV Lyria is now bookable for next year. As is Eurostar. Domestic French TGVs not yet. The schedule is however already visible and you can ask to be informed when tickets go on sale.

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For SNCF this alert came through today.

TGV INOUI in France and Europe and INTERCITÉS — Trains open from 15/12/2024 to 08/01/2025 on October 2nd, 2024

I am also waiting for ÖBB
and MAV (which I know opens 60 days prior to departure).

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DB tickets will be available from October 9, cf. here.
What's new is that the advance booking period will then be a whole year instead of 6 months.

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I just checked the MAV site and they were showing tickets for after the 14th of December Budapest to Vienna. Some cheap, some not so cheap. I am guessing the cheap ones (17 euro) are MAV trains and the expesive ones (59 euro) OBB cause the new fares arent published yet by OBB?

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hmmm I must be doing something. On the MAV app I can’t get anything beyond Nov. 17 and the website there is nothing after Dec. 14th.
Any ideas? I certainly have time I just thought given the holidays and I’d like to travel on 15 December from Budapest to Vienna I should look early to get a good fare.

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I can't see them either, beyond two trains just after midnight on 15 December, which are clearly the end of service on 14 December.
But on the 14th there are trains as cheap as 13 Euro.

But the ones on 15 December and onwards are clearly very close to being publicised.

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I am guessing the cheap ones (17 euro) are MAV trains and the expesive
ones (59 euro) OBB cause the new fares arent published yet by OBB?

On that route the trains are operated jointly by MAV and OBB, there are no separate MAV and OBB services.

The standard ticket (51,90) is good for all trains on the route. Discounted are subject to contingents per train.

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I suspect you are absolutely correct. But the trains cost due vary a bit. One of these days I will take a trip to the station and see if the more expensive ones have OBB written on the side. But I do know they are jointly operated. On the way to Vienna you will see the OBB conductors getting on (along with the Austrian robocops) at Hegyeshalom (the last stop on the Hungarian side).

Don’t know about standard prices. 31 October (just a random date way clear of the flooding)

Budapest to Vienna the
9:40 train, second class, 2:40 travel time
MAV 17 euro
OBB 51.90 euro
10:40 train, second class, 2:40 travel time
MAV 25 euro
OBB 51.90 euro

Vienna to Budapest
9:40 train, second class, 2:40 travel time
MAV 17 euro
OBB 46.40 euro
10:40 train, second class, 2:40 travel time
MAV 17 euro
OBB 32.50 euro

So while OBB has their “standards” better to look for the MAV “standards”

Better yet, for me at least, if I purchase a ticket to Hegyeshalom, then a separate ticket to Vienna the cost would be 12 euro from MAV

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FYI
DB (Deutsch Bahn) opened up their schedule and tickets for travel after December 15th today. I had some issues with my Chase Sapphire Reserve card but after a call the charge processed.

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You can now look up schedules and buy tickets for trains between the Netherlands and Belgium on www.b-europe.com
There are some big changes. A major one is that many trains have moved to Amsterdam Zuid from Centraal. For that reason when planning trips there is an option "Amterdam Centraal and Zuid" as origin station, that will show you the trains from both.

The Eurostar services to Paris start as ever from Amsterdam Centraal. Runs almost hourly.
The Intercity service to Brussels is now called "Eurocity Direct". This service has received new trains, and has been sped up significantly, only calling at Schiphol, Rotterdam, Antwerpen Centraal on the way. Runs hourly.

This train btw. originates in Lelystad, so that the important metropolis of "Almere Buiten" now has a direct connection to Brussels :-)

There is a new train service called "Eurocity" from Rotterdam to Brussels, that calls at Breda, Noorderkempen. Antwerpen Centraal and Berchem, Mechelen, Brussels Airport and Brussel Noord, Centraal and ends at Zuid. This one will use conventional rolling stock.

So all in al more choice and capacity on this cross border route.