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Train from Paris CDG Airport to Frankfurt Hbf?

Hello!

I'm planning a trip to Germany, with Frankfurt as the starting point. The best flight options for me are to fly into Paris CDG and then continue on to Frankfurt from there. I'm considering taking the train from Paris CDG to Frankfurt Hbf instead of flying from CDG to FRA. However, I've never taken trains in continental Europe (though I have many times in the UK) so I'm not entirely certain what the best options are for such a train journey.

I have the following questions:

  1. Is this a reasonable journey to consider if I'm not in a rush to get to Frankfurt on my arrival day?
  2. It looks like the TGV station at Charles de Gaulle doesn't have any high-speed trains to Germany; is that correct?
  3. Assuming there's not a high-speed option directly from Charles de Gaulle, I believe the following is my best option. Does this seem correct?
  4. RER B from Charles de Gaulle to Paris Gare du Nord
  5. Walk ~10 minutes from Paris Gare du Nord to Paris Gare de l'Est
  6. ICE from Paris Gare de l'Est to Frankfurt Hbf
  7. S-Bahn from Frankfurt Hbf a few stops to the station nearest my hotel in Frankfurt
  8. Assuming the above route is correct, how long should I allow from the time my plane is scheduled to land at CDG until the time I arrive at Gare de l'Est? This includes passport control, picking up checked bag (if I have one), taking the RER B to Gare du Nord, and walking to Gare de l'Est?
  9. Is there a single site/service that I can purchase all of these tickets from, or should I just purchase the RER B ticket at CDG and the ICE ticket from DB?
  10. Are there any other things I should know/be aware of for a trip like this?

Thank you all in advance for any assistance you can provide!

Posted by
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  1. No, RER ticket is from RATP and train to Frankfurt is DB or SNCF.

You might find a train from CDG to Strabourg then continue to Frankfurt.

Me, I would spend a night in Paris, then I could confidently buy a discounted nonrefundable ticket to Frankfurt

Posted by
15020 posts

No need to assume. # 4 through #7 are correct.

I do likewise, except that my hotel in Frankfurt is just opposite from Frankfurt Hbf, and walk across the street to reach the hotel. That RER "B" ride from CDG to Paris Nord costs 17 Euro. I got the ticket from the machine. Signs point the way from Nord to Gare de
l'Est. You won't be the only one going there.

Even though I am quite familiar with the route you're taking, I don't like cutting it close, so as for the time factor, give yourself 1.5 to 2 hours. Say, you get off the plane at 10 AM, between 11:30 and noon, you'll be at Est entering on Rue de Alsace.

My 2 star hotel is en route from Nord to Est, a very nice, recommendable place at a decent price , ie, will return. spent 4 nights there, only saw French guests the entire time.

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Say, you get off the plane at 10 AM, between 11:30 and noon, you'll be at Est entering on Rue de Alsace.

That's really optimistic, in my opinion. The walk + wait + RER + walk time from the public area of terminal 2E (so, after luggage claim) to Gare de l'Est is typically 60-75 minutes. Add immigration + luggage claim, and you are really unlikely to make it to Gare de l'Est less than 2 hours from landing. To allow for possible delays, the earliest I would aim for train departure is 3 hours after landing - and you'll see lots of posts here advocating for 4 hours (which is perhaps overly cautious for gare de l'Est, IMO).
Gare de l'Est is not the worst place to hang out, anyway!

Posted by
15020 posts

The two time variables are the Passport Control which could be less than 10 mins. or up to 40 mins. If you do have bags at baggage claim, that depends on how many planes are landing at the same time thereabouts..

Good that you're in no hurry to get to Frankfurt Hbf.

I've done your route in the opposite direction, ie, landing in FRA from the non-stop overnight flight SFO at FRA, usually arrived just before 10 AM, had the hot lunch at Frankfurt Hbf, then sat waiting for the next ICE Frankfurt Hbf to Paris Est (I used the Eurail Pass). Once there walked from Est (avoiding that staircase upwards with luggage) over to Nord, where my hotel is located across the street from the station. I wasn't in a hurry to get to the final destination, Paris, either, thereby taking the time pressure off you.

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15020 posts

I'll add another 40 mins or so. , the total time is 2:40 hours.

True, Gare de l'Est is a very nice place to hang out, better than Nord. I spent time doing just that , more at Est since the hotel was a bit closer to Est than was to Nord.

Posted by
33991 posts

a little study of the two major routes from Nord to l'Est ahead of time will let you choose depending on your luggage which to take. The shorter one does involve a significant staircase (down to Est, up to Nord) and the slightly longer and slower one doesn't.

Posted by
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Say, you get off the plane at 10 AM, between 11:30 and noon, you'll be at Est entering on Rue de Alsace.

I also agree this is overly optimistic. It could happen once every forty times, but I wouldn't count on being able to do it (and putting unrefundable money on a ticket hoping this will happen).

Posted by
21218 posts

No body has mentioned that there is no guarantee your plane will land on time.

Posted by
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Thank you all very much for your feedback! My trip is still a long way off (next fall), so I have a lot to consider in the meantime.

Posted by
2571 posts

You can look at the train options using the DB Navigator app (German train app) or SNCF (French train app). There are several options departing from CDG, connecting in either Brussels or Strasbourg. Travel time is anywhere from 4.5-6 hours. The fastest trains going from central Paris take over 3.5 hours. So there’s not a lot of time saved by traveling almost an hour into Paris from CDG, if you catch one of the faster trains from CDG.