To short layover?

On our return trip from Italy to USA, we fly from Genoa to Paris and then after only 1hour and 5 minutes to USA. Is this to short of a layover to make our flight to the USA?

Posted by Roy
Auburn, AL
804 posts

At CDG, that is a real gamble. It depens on the crowd ahead of you and the attitude of the Passport Control folks, who have been known to have an attitude. To quote Dirty Harry: "Do you feel lucky?"

Posted by George
Canada
824 posts

Sorry I don't have an answer to your question BUT I have a question for you - I used to go through Omaha a lot on business (I like Omaha) - is the Flatiron Cafe still as good as it was in the late 90s?

Posted by Frank
Tresana, Highlands Ranch, CO, USA
10883 posts

You should be OK with the usual caution about everything on time. You should be behind security so it should just be a change of gate.

Posted by Bets
Bloomington
1970 posts

Possibly. If your flight is a little delayed or if you have to change terminals, which you most likely will have to do, you'll either make it by the skin of your teeth or miss it. If you arrive in terminal one, which is likely because Genoa is a " local" flight, you'll take a shuttle train to terminal 2 or 3. Next, your passport control will probably be at CDG since Genoa is an interior EU flight. Finally, once through passport and security, some terminals have another train out to the gates (terminl 2E for example). So just pack accordingly and be prepared if you are re-routed on a later flight. In your favor, be sure to tell the "gatekeepers" at passport control that your flight is leaving. They'll walk you to the front of the priority line to get you through. Hopefully, the two flights are on the same ticket. This happened to my husband coming back fron Verona on a foggy morning. He was put on a later flight.

Posted by Bets
Bloomington
1970 posts

Google easycdg and go to passenger information, flight connections. It tells you everything you'll need to know and then some. I stumbled on it while looking to see why terminal 2E has shuttle trains within the terminal. It confirms that you will go through passport as well as security at CDG.

Posted by Bets
Bloomington
1970 posts

@Roy, Do you have personal experience that the CDG passport folk are known to had attitude? I'm through there once or twice a year and have always found the staff professional. On Monday when we came home, we were in the priority line but people with short departing flights were led to the front and helped through. On the other hand, it was a terriblly long line for people without some sort of priority, perhaps because the personnel who weren't on vacation were at lunch. The gatekeepers were there but passport was extremely short staffed at 12:30 last Monday in terminal 2E. Jules, just show your boarding pass with the time to the gatekeeper and if you have a prayer of a chance to make the flight they'll know to help you.

Posted by Marie
San Diego, CA, United States
857 posts

Remember it's not just you but your luggage doing the transfer (that is if you are checking any). Then there's the whole seat assignment thing. You miss your flight you'll be in the middle of the 5 across row at the back of the plane. I opt out of the tension/stress of wondering if I'll make a tight connection. Rushing to make a flight and spending 8 to 10 hours in my sweaty cranky self is totally not worth it. That is not, my opinion, the way to end a great trip. Personally, I find having a nice coffee and pastry and browsing the news stand for that latest issue of Popular Mechanics (ha ha) a better plan. I always pack in a 2 to 3 hour layover. Sometimes I just hang out in an airline club lounge on day pass if my flight was, oh la la, on time and my departing flight is delayed. Of course if you're traveling with a group or are on a tight budget maybe not such a great idea.

Posted by Chani
Tel Aviv
3509 posts

Jules, If you are booked on the same ticket for both flights, you may make it. Your luggage should be checked through by the airline to the US and it is more than a little possible that it won't make it and will follow you a day later. 65 minutes from landing to takeoff is not 65 minutes. It can be a few minutes after arriving at the gate (even if on time) before you are off the plane and in the terminal. The departing flight will close its doors at least a few minutes before it leaves the gate, and once closed, they ain't gonna open again unless it's an emergency. But if you have separate tickets, for instance a budget airline, I would never do it. Your luggage will not be booked through and neither airline will give you any assistance or recompense for missing your "connection" since it's not booked as a connection. Last year I had a ticket on Lufthansa from Salzburg with a connection in Vienna. Our flight was really late leaving Salzburg due to weather. Lufthansa personnel met all the connecting passengers on the tarmac with a car, those staying in the EU were driven straight to their plane which was being held for them, then the 3 of us who were on a flight leaving the EU, were taken to passport control and security and then to our plane, also waiting for us. Luggage arrive the next day. It's the airline's decision whether to hold the plane or put you on the next available flight.

Posted by Ed
Pensacola
7976 posts

Unless you tell us which terminals/airlines are involved, all you'll get are guesses. I'm with Bets in suspecting a T1 to T2 transition. I've made it in less than an hour, but I know the airport. Legal minimum time is seventy-five minutes, which you don't have. Your turn.

Posted by Bets
Bloomington
1970 posts

Actually, I have to chime in again and say no, I don't think you'll make the flight. I just remembered that two summers ago I had a one-hour layover, coming in from Nice and going on to Dublin, all on Air France and all within terminal 2, in two building right next to each other. I didn't have to go through passport, as it was all within the EU, but I did have to go through security. I barely made the connection. CDG is giant. So my answer is no, you probably can't make it. You should change the connecting flight or be prepared to be re-routed.

Posted by Liz
Malaga, Malaga, Spain
410 posts

I would not consider it, either at CDG or most other airports but CDG is huge and the distances can be (relatively) long, the airport crowded, queues long and so on. Even if your flight lands on time, or a little early, you will be fortunate to get into the terminal in less than 15 mins, add to that the time to go through passport control, collect luggage and then transfer to another terminal. Your flight to the US will clse 30 mins before so if I understand correctly you have 35 mins from the time the flight lands.

Posted by Jules
Omaha, NE, United States
28 posts

I called Delta and they assured me we have time (yea right). We aren't checking bags so that is in our favor and Delta said our connection would be in the same terminal. If we don't make it, we will just go with the flow I guess. Thanks everyone for your comments.

Posted by stan
Kansas City, Missouri
219 posts

Jules a question for you. Did you book this flight schedule online yourself? If so, did you book it through Delta, or through one of the travel sites like Orbitz/Expedia/Travelocity/etc.? I am curious about whether and how the travel sites take into account connection times when proposing itineraries.

Posted by Jules
Omaha, NE, United States
28 posts

Originally I booked with Expedia, but there were some changes made by Delta to my itinerary that didn't work for us so after being on hold for one hour with Expedia making changes with Delta, I chose to work directly with them after that. They stated that the have a minimum 70 min layover and when I told her ours was only 65 minutes, she talked to her supervisor, who assured me that we would be fine.

Posted by Roy
Auburn, AL
804 posts

"assured me that we would be fine." Where have I heard those words before. Ah, yes, my own workds, quoting a flight attendant on board a Delta flight to CDG with a turnaround of more than two hours before our connecting flight. Once on the ground, it was a free-fo-all and there were dozens of others, with even tighter schedules unable to get help. But no one at CDG would make exceptions for passengers with tight schedules; if they had, they would have been overwhelmed by the crowd. Lot of missed flights that day. Maybe, since your promise came from a supervisor, you will get expedited service, if anyone at CDG actually gets the message and follows through. Sorry to sound so cynical about this, but verbal promises tend to just be empty words. Good luck!