Please sign in to post.

The Boys of Pointe du Hoc (Normandy travel related)

We’re here to mark that day in history when the Allied armies joined in battle to reclaim this continent to liberty.

For four long years, much of Europe had been under a terrible shadow.

Free nations had fallen, Jews cried out in the camps, millions cried out for liberation.

Europe was enslaved, and the world prayed for its rescue.

Here in Normandy the rescue began. Here the Allies stood and fought against tyranny in a giant undertaking unparalleled in human history.

We stand on a lonely, windswept point on the northern shore of France.

The air is soft, but 40 years ago at this moment, the air was dense with smoke and the cries of men, and the air was filled with the crack of rifle fire and the roar of cannon.

At dawn, on the morning of the 6th of June, 1944, 225 Rangers jumped off the British landing craft and ran to the bottom of these cliffs.

Their mission was one of the most difficult and daring of the invasion: to climb these sheer and desolate cliffs and take out the enemy guns.

The Allies had been told that some of the mightiest of these guns were here and they would be trained on the beaches to stop the Allied advance.

The Rangers looked up and saw the enemy soldiers — the edge of the cliffs shooting down at them with machine guns and throwing grenades.

And the American Rangers began to climb.

They shot rope ladders over the face of these cliffs and began to pull themselves up.

When one Ranger fell, another would take his place. When one rope was cut, a Ranger would grab another and begin his climb again. They climbed, shot back, and held their footing.

Soon, one by one, the Rangers pulled themselves over the top, and in seizing the firm land at the top of these cliffs, they began to seize back the continent of Europe.

Two hundred and twenty-five came here. After two days of fighting, only 90 could still bear arms.

Behind me is a memorial that symbolizes the Ranger daggers that were thrust into the top of these cliffs.

And before me are the men who put them there.

These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.

These are the men who took the cliffs. These are the champions who helped free a continent. These are the heroes who helped end a war. . . .

Forty summers have passed since the battle that you fought here.

You were young the day you took these cliffs; some of you were hardly more than boys, with the deepest joys of life before you.

Yet, you risked everything here.

Why? Why did you do it?

What impelled you to put aside the instinct for self-preservation and risk your lives to take these cliffs? What inspired all the men of the armies that met here?

We look at you, and somehow we know the answer.

It was faith and belief; it was loyalty and love.

The men of Normandy had faith that what they were doing was right, faith that they fought for all humanity, faith that a just God would grant them mercy on this beachhead or on the next.

It was the deep knowledge — and pray God we have not lost it — that there is a profound, moral difference between the use of force for liberation and the use of force for conquest.

You were here to liberate, not to conquer, and so you and those others did not doubt your cause.

And you were right not to doubt.

You all knew that some things are worth dying for.

One’s country is worth dying for, and democracy is worth dying for, because it’s the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man. . . .

Let us show them by our actions that we understand what they died for. . . .

Strengthened by their courage, heartened by their valor, and borne by their memory, let us continue to stand for the ideals for which they lived and died.

Thank you very much, and God bless you all.

President Ronald Reagan, June 6, 1984

Posted by
563 posts

I’m not really sure this is fully travel related, but I will tell you that if you’ve ever been there and you look down those cliffs, awe inspiring. You gain a very strong appreciation for those young men and what they did

Posted by
3100 posts

Carol, I take your point, although when we visited Normandy the D-Day beaches were the primary reason for our visit, and the speech, imo, is a clarifying reason for many of those traveling to this region, but to honor the courageous men, too.

It's not, to me, an either/or situation, but I certainly respect your position.

Posted by
919 posts

For those who believe that the French regard Americans with disdain, a trip to Normandy will dispel that false notion quickly.

Posted by
6908 posts

Normandy was pretty overwhelming for me, moreso than all other WW II venues. I can't help but think of the Normandy beaches and the sacrifices that were made there whenever and wherever I'm traveling in Europe. So much hinged on this very day... Whether they knew it or not, the men of Normandy - and those who fought on every battlefront - really did end up fighting "for all humanity." Today's Europe would likely be much larger - and vastly more inhumane - if their sacrifice had not been provided and their efforts not succeeded.

I think we travelers to Europe owe a bit of gratitude to those who saved this continent and everything we love about it. Reminders like this one from BigMike should always be welcome here, I think. There'd surely be no "Rick Steves' Europe" on any level without the Allied response that took down Nazi Germany.

Posted by
567 posts

Thanks for posting this!! I have been to Point du Hoc as well as Normandy beaches, Port Winston and the US cemetery. Standing there trying to visualize the 7,000 ships off shore carrying 200,000+ soldiers and 10,000 planes flying above was a somber experience. I am amazed at the bravery of those men who knew there was a good chance they were about to die. I also thought of the Germans looking out and seeing that amount of force heading their way. So much history took place in this area!! I hope history never repeats itself and I hope we never forget the sacrifice made by so many to ensure our freedoms!!

Posted by
4126 posts

Unfortunately those words are even more relevant today, as Europe once again faces down a tyrannical dictator, bent on conquering his neighbors.

I think we travelers to Europe owe a bit of gratitude to those who saved this continent and everything we love about it. Reminders like this one from BigMike should always be welcome here, I think. There'd surely be no "Rick Steves' Europe" on any level without the Allied response that took down Nazi Germany.

For me D-Day was as much about liberating Europe from the Germans as it was saving as much of Europe from the Russians, who are already knocking on the door of Central Europe by 1944.

Posted by
4126 posts

Nick you are spot on. By this point in the war the Germans were a spent force. If the Allies hadn't been successful in Dday we wouldn't have been all speaking German (as is the common saying) but rather Russian.

It is also unfortunate how the British and Canadians are often overshadowed in the telling of the Dday story. I don't think the average American knows that the vast majority of warships engaged in the Dday were British, including all those Higgins boats operators, who in the movies are portrayed as Americans. Even the ladders the American Rangers use to scale Pointe du Hoc were provided by the London fire brigade, if I recall correctly.

Posted by
3100 posts

I have appreciated reading everyone's comments, and hope this thread is not only appropriate regarding travel, but on this 80th anniversary of D-Day, this message carries a broader meaning, too.

People, places, events, and history drive us to travel, and there are few places of more dramatic and courageous history than Normandy and the D-Day beaches.

There were a multitude of 18-19 year old men. Let that sink in for a moment.

The cemeteries with the endless rows of crosses and Stars of David brought tears to my eyes. What a tremendous sacrifice that future generations must not forget.

All of these "boys" will soon be gone, but I pray never forgotten.

Posted by
148 posts

Further east in St. Avold, France is the Lorraine American Cemetery with over 10,000 war death of WWII. If you are ever in the area, go and say a prayer of thanks to those who sacrificed for our nation. In our travels we all most always head to a place of honor and remembrance. My wife's brother is buried in Lorraine. He was killed 2 days after the war. He will never be forgotten.

Posted by
32307 posts

My visit to the Normandy area was the main reason for my "travel" to that area. For some reason I've always been interested in the history and the events which took place there (and other WW-2 sites). I made a point to visit not only Canadian but also American and British sites, and it was a very moving experience to stand in the places where "the greatest generation" sacrificed so much. I spent two days with professional guides and additional time on my own. It was a very memorable part of my travels that year.

Posted by
9436 posts

Too many Americans know nothing about D-Day or WWII. My dad was one of the planners of D-Day and he landed on Omaha Beach during the Invasion. He was a wonderful man and dad. I grew up knowing the history and have been to Normandy 10+ times. I have great reverance for Normandy, it is a very impactful place for my son and for me.

In relation to this travel forum, i think everyone should visit Normandy and pay their respect to all the women and men who fought, and who died, there.

Posted by
3100 posts

Susan, I would like to hear more about your dad's story. That's fascinating.

My grandfather was at Omaha on D-Day +3 as a medic and ambulance driver. He would not talk about his experiences that included the Battle of the Bulge, although Grandma did share with us that he would often hold the hands of men who were dying and crying out for their moms, and didn't want to die alone.

Posted by
7775 posts

We were on Omaha Beach on July 4, 2008. In the sand, somebody had scratched, “Thank You America.” That was moving, as was the cemetery, and the playing of “The Star Spangled Banner” and then a moment of silence at noon.

It was just a tad ironic to see so many German license plates that were on cars in the parking lot.

Posted by
2125 posts

Our Uncle, Robert (Al) Persichetti, died Friday while traveling to attend the ceremonies in Normandy. He was with a military group and has visited many battlefields in Europe and in the Pacific in the past. You may have seen his story on CNN, BBC, Newsweek, etc. yesterday. He was 102 and will be missed. This is a great post and very travel related IMO.
I heard Regan’s speech at the time, and Biden just finished a great speech as well.

We canceled our Normandy trip in exchange for Poland this September. Next year Normandy.

Posted by
4126 posts

Our Uncle, Robert (Al) Perchetti, died Friday while traveling to attend the ceremonies in Normandy.

Incredible, I saw it in the Spanish news, to pass away in Germany no less, what a twist of fate! It was nice to hear about the kind doctor who was by his side.

I'm sure you will find Poland an equally rewarding place to visit. I've been going there for several years now and I always discover new towns/history/culture. If you are interested in WWII, Poland is the place to visit, especially the new WWII history museum in Gdansk.

Posted by
1839 posts

For those who believe that the French regard Americans with disdain, a trip to Normandy will dispel that false notion quickly.

I am not sure about all of France, but this is so absolutely true in Normandy. When I was traveling to Bayeux I sat next to a Frenchman who could not have been more generous about speaking of the people in Normandy. He told me the region continues the teaching of the invasion in schools and the utmost respect the people of Normandy has for America and its people today based on the sacrificing that was made to free that region and the country in WWII.

I found that to be true on my visit and in my learnings about the American Cemetery which is totally managed and run by the French people of Normandy. Their reverence and dedication to that hollowed ground were most impressive.

As with many people who have visited there, I may not remember too much of the rest of France, but I will always remember the visit to Normandy. If you haven't been, do it. You will be glad you did. Thanks for the post.

Posted by
10011 posts

in my learnings about the American Cemetery which is totally managed and run by the French people of Normandy.

Alas, this isn't quite right. While there are indeed hundreds of French groundskeepers, gardeners, stonemasons, etc., working at the American cemeteries in France, (and likewise for the American military cemeteries in other countries,) the cemeteries are owned and managed by the US government. The agency that manages all this is called the US American Battle Monuments Commission.

If you are American, these are your tax dollars at work.

Here's a page from their website describing their origin and where they sit in the federal government.

https://www.abmc.gov/about-us

From their page that lists all the various cemeteries and memorials they manage worldwide:

ABMC administers, operates and maintains 26 permanent American military cemeteries and 31 federal memorials, monuments and markers, which are located in 17 foreign countries, the U.S. Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, and the British Dependency of Gibraltar; four of the memorials are located within the United States. These cemeteries and memorials, most of which commemorate the service and sacrifice of Americans who served in World War I and World War II, are among the most beautiful and meticulously maintained shrines in the world. Visit ABMC Burial and Memorialization Statistics to learn about the number of men and women we honor around the world.

Here is their page about the Normandy American Cemetery:

https://www.abmc.gov/normandy

And here is their page about the Pointe du Hoc:

https://www.abmc.gov/Pointe-du-Hoc

Whenever I have been to any of the WWI or WWII sites, the dedication of the personnel has impressed me.

Here's where you can see all the memorials and cemeteries they run worldwide, or filter by country, war, etc.

https://www.abmc.gov/cemeteries-memorials

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned yet in this thread, but I’ve heard others mention to get in touch with the cemetery you’re visiting if you know ahead of time, and I agree. We did this for my mother’s great-uncle, who was killed at Verdun, and the staff there took us to the grave, had the materials for us to do a grave rubbing, and had the cemetery’s carillon ring Taps. It was very moving, and really special for my mom as we were the first family members ever to visit his grave. The staff seemed really happy to do this for us, so do look up “your” cemetery through the link above and get in touch if you are going to visit a family member. Each cemetery’s page has a phone number and/or email address to reach out.

And I agree with others who say, if you get the chance to go to one of these cemeteries, go. Even if you can’t go for as long as you would like, go. The opportunity to take some time to reflect there among the gravestones is not to be missed.

And Diane, I too read about your uncle. I am very sorry for your loss. I am grateful that more people have learned about him. And very grateful for what he did to fight in the Asia-Pacific theater for us and for freedom.

Posted by
2757 posts

This might be my favorite topic ever. So many heart felt and heart warming posts. Thanks to everyone who shared their thoughts and stories. Kim, I think yours was the best, and that’s saying a lot.

I visited Normandy in 2009 and just loved it. It’s a very special place even without the World War II sites, but the World War II connection adds so much interest and meaning. I am thinking I really need to go back.

May we never forget the sacrifices made by all those who were there in 1944. I am very proud of America’s role, but we were not the only country who answered the call.

Posted by
139 posts

Kim, Thank you for the information about the American cemeteries and memorials. I went to the ABMC website you linked and quickly found my uncle’s memorial - he died in battle during WWII and his remains were never found, but I’m glad to now know that he was memorialized. Now we can plan a visit to see his name on the wall. Thank you!

Posted by
148 posts

We have been going to St Avold cemetery for many years. At one time all the managers were retired military. Today the manager was a veteran who applied for the position stateside. The grounds are impeccable and even in Covid year many came even though they weren't required. I have heard many heartwarming stories about the French and their respect for the cemetery. We have witnessed ceremonies which have brought tears to your eyes. Last summer we talked to a French father who took his son to the cemetery to show him what a nation did to bring the war to the end. He was even so kind to thank my wife for her families sacrifice. My wife was born in 48 and her brother still and will always be in her heart. I always remember sitting in the manager's office looking at the men cutting the grass. I remarked hey it's raining and their cutting the grass. The manager turned and looked at me with a remark of We cut the grass every Tuesday and its Tuesday. What a smile that put on our faces.

Posted by
9436 posts

Diane, i’m sorry for your loss. Another great man to be so proud of.

Mike, Happy to share, my dad also fought at the Battle of the Bulge, and i’d like to know more about your grandfather. The Greatest Generation is right.

Posted by
2125 posts

I am sorry for everyone who lost someone in this horrible war. I only hope that the tradition on D-Day continues way into the future. I fear it may not.
Thank you for the kind words about my uncle. He stayed on his ship off Iwo Jima but he gave the ship’s flag to the men as they headed for shore. It was the flag we all see in the famous photo today. That’s what he told us. I do hope it was the case.

Posted by
3100 posts

Diane, I'm at a loss for words. Thank you for sharing.

Susan, I was going to PM you, but maybe others are interested so I'll post here and keep it short and sweet, which unfortunately is easy since he would not talk about his exploits in Europe.

SGT Donald Fisher was awarded the Bronze Star for tending to soldiers amidst hostile fire during the Battle of the Bulge. Upon returning home to Canal Winchester, OH, Don got a job in a glass cutting factory, later dying of mesothelioma from all of that glass dust. His family got a pittance in compensation, and being of that generation his wife, my grandmother, would not sue the company. Times were hard an they scraped by with a small social security check and neighbors who helped out with fixing things around the house or yard work. The gentlemen next door, a truly wonderful man, was Mr. Fix-It, always in good spirits and refusing any compensation, not that grandma had much money anyway. She got a job at a senior citizens center in town as a receptionist.

All I can add at the risk of repeating myself, is that the mortally wounded men under his care did not want to die alone, so he would stay with them to the extent he could and hold their hands and comfort them. I can't imagine the trauma he carried with him for the rest of his life, but back then it was common to "man up" and deal with it. Greatest Generation, indeed. Thanks Tom Brokaw.

Posted by
2421 posts

The information Kim gave about the Normandy cemetery and other US militaries around the world is correct. The French treat their visits respectfully and honor our dead and I am sure most of the employees are French citizens but the cemetery is operated by our government. Glad that was cleared up.

Posted by
464 posts

My Canadian uncle joined the Canadian Scottish Regiment. He took part in the D-day landings on Juno Beach, taking part in the battle of Caen. My uncle was wounded (permanent arm injury) after 33 days, returned to England where he’d prepped for the landing, married, and stayed in England the rest of his life.

His British granddaughter was on the beaches for the ceremonies last week. When a Canadian vet saw her family’s flag and heard that her grandfather had been in the Canadian Scottish Regiment, he said the Regiment had saved his life. They had a very special time visiting and taking pictures.

The beaches are on our short list.

Posted by
10011 posts

Chérie - that's wonderful. Thank you for sharing.

And of course gratitude is for ALL those who participated in the Liberation of Europe whether on D-Day or other days, no matter the uniform of which Ally they wore. It took them all, and we are the lucky beneficiaries of their sacrifices.

Posted by
2019 posts

Deuetsche Welle had a documentary recently on the whole history and lead up to D-Day. I am including the link below because few people actually how D-Day was postponed and about the disasters and loss of Allied Troops while training for the mission. And it also has some memories of the Germans who fought there as well. Fascinating piece.

https://youtu.be/vcoXu1YcqkU?si=2Dc3zRzB_kgGT4BP

Posted by
4126 posts

I know in this topic we talk about the liberation and freedom of Europe because of D-Day, but the truth is that's only half correct. Only half of Europe was liberated, the other half fought off the Germans only to be enslaved by the Russians. In my travels through some of these countries today, there still a sentiment of being sold out by the Western Allies from one dictator to another (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_betrayal), even though they fought with the Western Allies on D-Day like Polish and Czech forces. They call it the "Betrayal at Yalta."

I wonder how the world would look like if the Western allies had done D-Day back in 1942 as Roosevelt had originally wanted, instead of getting sidetracked in Africa and the Mediterranean.

Posted by
148 posts

Being an amateur history buff of WWII it is the opinion we would be slaughtered in 1942. Need to study where the US was at in 42. No large ground military, Naval ships, Marine Corp, and the Air Force was a combination of Army and Air, which remained until after the war. We had a hard time protecting the shipping lanes to England for the supply ships. Even in the military the leadership was weak. This doesn't even take in the mood of the US. We didn't want to fight a war. The Nazi regime had many here the US preaching the goods of Hitler. Read about Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh and their attitude toward Nazi's and their influence on the American public. All interesting study. It is very easy to question the strategy of War and the what ifs. It makes interesting storylines but sometimes the truth is shaded.

Posted by
9436 posts

Thank you Mike, you’re grandfather sounds like a wonderful man.