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Suggestions: Greece-Albania-Bulgaria-Macedonia-Croatia trip

Folks:

We are planning a trip to the south end of the Balkans. My wife and I have been to Croatia multiple times, and will go there again on this trip. We plan on a 4 week trip mid-May to mid-June.

We'd like some general thoughts on Greece-Albania-Bulgaria-Macedonia. No, we are not going to do them all. Yes, we like 3-4 night stays.

So, Sofia? Tirana? Skopje? We are not tour oriented, but are not averse. Possibly the RS Bulgaria tour might be good - our Bulgarian is sub-par. Albania is attractive, because no one goes there. For a reason?

We've done a little of Serbia, a little of Montenegro, none of Kosova, a little of Romania, a lot of Croatia (business reasons now to return).

Amazingly, we have never done anything in Greece. So maybe Greece 101.

Suggestions?

Posted by
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Take a look at some of the old posts especially on Albania, Montenegro which may give you some ideas. I know I had posted about a trip that we took about 10 years ago that maybe helpful.

Posted by
16893 posts

Convenient public transport (or lack thereof) is a key part of combining any pair or few of these countries. Flying is usually fastest, of course. Otherwise, you'll often be dependent on buses run by various local operators. Rental cars cannot cross some of these borders (not without prior permission and insurance to do so; a few years back, AutoEurope could not find me a car to cross any borders between Greece-Albania-Bulgaria-Macedonia). Trains do not run frequently (or at all) across some of these borders.

I'm sure you already know that southern Croatia (Dubrovnik) is not served by rail. Albania has no rail lines to other countries and not much within. Greece has roughly one train per day on the line to Macedonia, one on the line to Bulgaria, and none to Albania or Turkey. See our train fare maps for various regions, and a few additional notes on the related rail info pages. The one- and two-country maps pretty well summarize any train lines that we expected to be of interest to tourists, and which actually had passenger service in 2018. If you see an obvious gap, it's not an oversight, it's a lack of train service.

My goal for the year is to sell at least one Balkan Rail Pass. ;-) Will it be to you?

As usual, DB provides the best way to research train schedules.

Rick Steves Tour of Bulgaria is excellent and also filling fast for 2019. If interested, then I suggest you either join a wait list now for the filled departures or sign up soon for an open departure. After the guide presents his slide show here in Edmonds on Jan. 26, there will be a flurry of interest.

On this 2018 forum thread other contributors have linked up some of Rick's Romania content from around this site.

Posted by
1555 posts

Check out Balkanology.com - it had useful travel information when I was doing this route many years ago. We traveled Dubrovnik - Kotor - Ulcinj - Tirana - Lake Ohrid - Skopje and onto Romania. Not sure how updated it is.

Posted by
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We have been to Bulgaria while on a Black Sea cruise. Enjoyed our visit, but Greece outshines. Croatia is great, but a bit far from where you plan to go.

Athens deserves 3 days and perhaps more if you do day trips to Delphi, Corinth and Sounion.

The Greek Islands are best seen on a cruise. There are many nice cruises out of Venice that stop in Split and/or Dubrovnik, Croatia, then Corfu, Santorini, Mykonos, Crete and Athens.

Posted by
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Hello Paul. I put a low priority on being at Bulgaria and Macedonia. I think, if you desire to go to Greece, fly from the U.S.A. to Athens, and travel in GREECE, including a few islands at the Aegean Sea. The islands Naxos and Mykynos have airports. Then fly from Athens to Croatia. And Fly from Croatia to the U.S.A. (to your home). Having a good trip in Greece requires spending some time there.
Do not ride in any railroad train. Driving a car in Greece is dangerous. Many fatal crashes of cars at Greece.