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Single best/most interesting European "back door"

I have done the Rick Steves thing many times. Been to Italy (3 times), France, Germany, England (twice), Scotland, Portugal, Switzerland, Slovenia/Croatia/Bosnia, and the Czech Republic.

Now thinking about the next trip. I have about 3 weeks, maybe in May, maybe in June-July. Might be bringing along some college age girls; might be going just with the significant other. Hopefully to experience something interesting and different.

I am a culture/history kind of guy. Also, on this trip, more interested in staying in only one or two locations and experiencing some place in depth, rather than traveling and sampling things lightly.

What's your opinion as to the single best/most interesting "back door?" I know there is no one answer.

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Iceland. Unique as all get out. Nothing like it in the whole world.

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Not exactly a back door, but Emily is right about Istanbul. TC

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I can think of several in Germany.

My personal Back Door was the Odenwald-Neckar River Valley region when I lived in the country. I couldn't believe how many travelers would drive right by it on the way to the similar but much further distant Black Forest.

The island of Rügen might be another one for North Americans, although it's well established as vacation destination for Germans, Danes, Poles and Swedes.

Another great region that a lot of RS fans drive/train right by between Füssen (or Reutte, if they're particularly gullible) and the Berner Oberland is the Allgäu, particularly the Alpine portion at the southern end. Much appreciation to Lee from Colorado for recommending Oberstdorf and Kleinwalsertal to me several years ago. Once again, not a Back Door to Europeans, but it gets almost no notice on North American-centered travel websites.

The Fränkische Schweiz region of northern Bavaria, with it's fascinating rock formations, fairy tale villages and innumerable castles.

The Hartz mountain region of Sachsen-Anhalt and Niedersachsen. The perfect counter-argument to the claim that Rothenburg odT is a one-of-a-kind gem.

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More of Turkey. Not just a stay in Istanbul, but also one in Cappadocia, and another stop like Ephesus. These can all be connected by cheap flights (www.skyscanner.com) if you don't want to drive long distances. Traveling to more than just a couple of stops will show you the range of culture in different sized towns and the wide range of natural and historical attractions in Turkey. I don't think of that sampling as a glossing over, but as a way to experience more.

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I would say Turkey, or someplace in Italy you haven't been (Basilicata, for example; capital city is Matera). Side trips possible, easy if you have a car (Puglia and Campania, close by).

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Certain towns and villages in Germany fit this description, the most memorable, interesting, etc I found to be serene, tranquil, peaceful, relaxing are Lüneburg, Sigmaringen, Weimar, Potsdam, Meissen to be sure.

In France the small towns and villages in Ardeche, in both Alsace and Lorraine, in SW France in the areas of Toulouse, Perpignan; in the Somme and Nord Pas-de-Calais areas,

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Scotland really has lots of backdoors. You just need to break away from the west coast. Or if you go to the west coast, go to Mull and stay on the Island and not on Mull or go to the northwest coast. It's wild lonely and beautiful. Go to Betty Hill and learn about the clearances. Go to Orkney and stay there. rather than swooping in on a cruise a one day tour from Inverness. What about Shetland? No one goes there! And even in Perthshire you can find places that are not overrun let alone, up north. We stay in Fortrose on the Black Isle near Inverness. We can do day trips all over the north from there.

PAm

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If you haven't spent a lot of time in Berlin, it will certainly give you all the culture and history you want. And like any big city, there are plenty of back doors, once you get past the famous attractions.

Scandinavia, while expensive, is great at that time of year, and isn't as visited as some other places.

I also agree that Istanbul is great.

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Extremadura, Spain is one of my favorites.

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This could happen anywhere, but it happened to me and my mother crossing the Jura mountains between Switzerland and France about a year ago (by car).

We saw a castle on a hill above a village (sorry, can't remember the name, but like I said this could happen anywhere!). As we weren't in a hurry, we decided to make a detour and found ourselves in front of a relatively small but quite well preserved medieval castle. We parked the car on a grass verge and walked up. I would say that it was about 75 per cent intact - it had a dry moat, defensive walls, portcullis, keep, dining hall (without the roof but that was to be expected), court-yard with a well in the middle, and a few other less-defined things. We walked around for a bit, read the signs that explained the history of the place (it belonged to a local lord).

I let my imagination go free and managed to visualise men on horseback riding through the portcullis that I was looking at, with their hunting hounds. I stood in the dining hall and imagined the medieval feasts that took place there. I looked at the court-yard and and imagined the cook chasing the chickens around to make the feast, and a servant winching up a bucket of water from the well. I looked at the view from the castle down to the village and saw what they saw 800 years ago.

The second best thing of all that was that my mother and I were all alone in that castle above that tiny remote French village - no tourists, no guides. Just us and our imagination of how it must have been centuries ago.

The best thing? That was just one castle. There are many others.

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Going through your previous destinations, it looks like you missed Budapest and Hungary.

You can fly on EasyJet cheap Budapest to Berlin Schönefeld Airport. Budget air carriers go just about everywhere in Europe from Berlin.

The beauty about the budget air carriers is that you can take in one or two destinations in a region, and take an inexpensive flight to the other end of Europe.

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I have done the Rick Steves thing many times. Been to Italy (3 times),
France, Germany, England (twice), Scotland, Portugal, Switzerland,
Slovenia/Croatia/Bosnia, and the Czech Republic.

If you did the "Rick Steves thing" in Germany you have seen Bavaria + Berlin, and 3/4 of the country are "back door". Have a look on a map and find out how much of the countries you visited you have actually seen. I think Rick Steves covers Italy very well, and probably France and GB too, but I'm not sure about the rest. Czechia for instance is probably Prague + Cesky Krumlov.

It's not exactly back door, but how about Spain? May is the perfect time to visit the country, and especially Andalusia is a fascinating region. For a real "back door" you could visit Russia, SPB + Moscow with a visit to the countryside for a real culture shock.

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For cultural back doors, I can't think of anything that beats April in Spain.

Semana Santa processions are awesome. The best, maybe best experience of my life, was Holy Thursday in Zaragosa. Amazing experience and nary a tourist in sight. I'd go to somewhere other than Seville to see it without tourists. Valladolid also has a big celebration that is probably missed by virtually all tourists.

April Fair in Seville is another great cultural experience. It's like stepping into another century with all the horses, carriages, and traditional clothing.

For quiet, out of the way, back doors. The Costa de la Luz (from Tarifa, Spain to the Portuguese border) has miles and miles of isolated beaches, lots of small towns and only one real urban/industrial area (around Cadiz).