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Hello all! I am looking for advice on rail passes. We will be traveling in Germany and London/Cambridge in April. I will be 27 at the time of the trip. My co-travelers will be 28, 60, and 67. Not sure if it is best to just do the math on point to point or if a rail pass of some type will be better. Feel free to tell me I just need to do the math.

Germany:

1) We are flying into Munich and staying at Hotel Cocoon Hauptbahnhof.
Airport to Hotel: Looks like S Bahn S1/S8 Flughafen Muenchen to Muenchen Hauptbahnhof, Thursday evening around 9:30p
2) Any travel with Muenchen to Dachau, Nazidokumentationszentrum, elsewhere we choose to go within the 3 nights, 2 days we’re there
3) We are then going from Munich to Überlingen
According to bahn.de, it looks like we could go from the Munich Hauptbahnhof on the ECE 194 to Lindau, then take IRE 3 from Lindau to Friedrichshafen, then take bus to Überlingen
4) Once in Überlingen, we are planning on traveling to Weinfelden, Meersburg, and Lindau. We are not renting a car. We did get the Bodensee Plus cards, so that should cover the ferries.
5) We will then be traveling back to Munich via train to fly out of Munich at 4:05p the following Wednesday.

London:

We will be staying with our friends who live in Cambridge. We will be flying into LHR and traveling to their place in Cambridge on a Wednesday evening.
We will be there until Sunday, and would like to visit sights in London during 2-3 days of our time there.
We will be flying out of LHR on Sunday afternoon.

Posted by
4088 posts

Anything having to do with railroads, ask the Man in Seat 61 who has either rode that way or knows how to do it . www.seat61.com

Posted by
2570 posts

Germany sure doesn’t make rail passes easy to decipher. But they certainly exist. For Munich, check out this site. There are group day tickets for up to 5 people. Which ticket you need depends on how far you plan to travel. You can use this to get to Dachau. We used it for our group of 4. https://www.mvv-muenchen.de/en/tickets-and-fares/tickets-daytickets/index.html

The DB Navigator app is pretty good about guiding you to passes that work for your group. I’m not familiar with your other destinations to suggest passes for them.

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2532 posts

Normally Friedrichshafen to Überlingen would be a train, so it looks like on your travel day this is a bus substitution. But train tickets will be valid.
For your trips in around Münich look at the different MVV offers as already mentioned.
For the trip to überlingen (and back) just book tickets in advance to get a Sparpreis.

For your stay in Überlingen look at the Bodensee ticket.
https://www.bodensee-ticket.com/en/zones/

I spend a month in Überlingen in 1988 to learn German. It is an nice area.

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33986 posts

what time does your flight for Cambridge get into Heathrow?

Are your friends right in Cambridge or nearby?

Are you saying that you will be based in Cambridge and taking 3 days of day trips to London? Will you have relaxed breakfasts with your Cambridge friends and then heading off for one major attraction (will your Cambridge friends go into London with you? - will all 4 of you from the flight all go into London each time - will you be spending tourist time in and around Cambridge and vicinity? = so many questions!!) or will you be up like a scalded cat each morning and going into London with the trains full of commuters?

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33986 posts

Cambridge is a pretty long way from Heathrow for your flight home. Sure hope that your flight is really late in the afternoon - you will need to allow 3 hours at the airport for your home-bound flight. If planning on going by train (Thameslink to Farringdon and Elizabeth Line or Great Northern (fastest) to Kings Cross than tube or Thameslink to Farringdon to Elizabeth Line) Sundays often attract engineering work and detours.

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8127 posts

The pain free way from Cambridge to Heathrow is by direct National Express Bus- takes a little over 2 hours, quite frequent. There are overnight buses for very early flights, and the first daytime buses are at around 5am.
Likewise from LHR there are quiet frequent buses until as late as gone midnight.

That way rail engineering work doesn't affect you.

Posted by
1048 posts

Yes, you need to sit down and do the math. And you also need to look at what services are offered and what services you want. In particular you should pay attention to the restrictions attached to the cheaper single use tickets. Even the days and times you choose to travel can impact the prices.

For instance in my case I have arthritis in my left leg and the extra space offered by first class is an important comfort for me. But even more important is that if I'm having a bad day and can't move as quick as normal I'm not stuck in having to make a particular connection or I loose my ticket. I can simply hop on a later one.

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5) We will then be traveling back to Munich via train to fly out of
Munich at 4:05p the following Wednesday.

If you are staying in Überlingen, why are you backtracking all the way to Munich to fly to London? It would make more sense in my opinion to book a flight from Zürich.