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Planning itinerary pre and post tour—questions about Bulgaria and Hungary

I have booked my very first tour for late September of 2025 (I'm testing the waters ☺). It is a 12 day Gate 1 tour of Romania that begins (and ends) in Bucharest in late September of 2025 and ends in early October. My goal is to spend about 10 days before and about 10 days after the tour visiting the surrounding areas.

I'm pretty certain that I want to end up in Budapest, and am trying to decide if I should fly there from Bucharest after the tour, or possibly take the train and make some stops along the way (would be looking for ideas here; perhaps Timișoara, since the tour is only here briefly?). The tour visits Bucharest, Sibiu, Targu Mures, Brasov, Piatra Neamț, Sighișoara, Biertan, and Bran Castle. Also, should I limit my stay to Budapest, or spread out a bit into Hungary? Ideas?

Before the tour, I am considering Bulgaria, as I've always wanted to visit there. Is 10 days enough time to get a good feel for the country? I know—it's never enough time, but still... :-) Any suggestions for places to see? I do want to visit Sofia and Rila Monastery. I am also a huge fan of the book The Historian by Elizabeth Kostova, so have thought of trying to track down some of the places mentioned in it; but that depends on the difficulty of doing so.

I haven't booked any flights yet as I obviously want to get my arrival and departure cities down. I also haven't decided whether I should rent a car or use public transport, so any advice about that would be welcome.

Thanks for any and all advice!

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Is 10 days enough time to get a good feel for the country?

The Rick Steves tour of Bulgaria is 12 days, which is really just 10.5. I feel like a got a good feel.

Before and after the tour, I spent 12 additional nights in Sofia. Some of those I spent in town, but I also took a lot of day trips: Kazanlak, Belogradchik, Nis in Serbia and Skopje in N Macedonia. There are day trips to Rila Monastery, or you can do it on your own by bus - our tour went there, it's lovely.

My "3 Weeks RS Best of Bulgaria Plus Solo In Sofia" trip report has the links to the day trips I took from Sofia. Those were after the Rick Steves Best of Bulgaria tour, so I was going places that the tour didn't go, including neighboring countries.

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I also haven't decided whether I should rent a car or use public transport
When I went on the Best of Bulgaria tour (in 2023) I had researched buses as a backup plan if I got COVID and had to leave the tour. I recall that there were a couple of bus companies, but it seemed very straightforward to book tickets from town to town. From Sofia, I did everything through day trips booked on GetYourGuide, but I could have done some of them myself.

I had really good experiences with several of the day trips from Sofia, which were fulfilled through V Travels Ltd. https://vtravel.bg/. When one of my day trips had too few people to go, the owner - who knew I had 3 other day trips booked with him, and didn't want me to cancel those - drove us to Skopje himself, 4 hours each way.

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Great advice, CW! I definitely need to go back and revisit your trip report. Thanks for the reminder! All those day trips sound wonderful! And thank you for the links as well. I will check those out. I think I would like to avoid renting a car, especially given the mountainous terrain.

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In Romania I recommend extra time in Timisoara and a visit to both Cluj-Napoca and the Maramures area in the northwest. Maramures has the Merry Cemetery and wooden churches; refer to Rick's video. You'll also see carved gateways outside houses and perhaps the occasional woman wearing folk garb to church on Sunday. The area is also scenic, though not in a super-dramatic, high-mountain way. It would be essentially impossible to appreciate Maramures by public transportation, however.

The Retro Hostel in Cluj-Napoca arranges both one-day and multi-day small-group tours within Romania. You don't have to stay at the hostel to take a tour. Contact the hostel early to express interest in whichever tours are of interest; see their website. I think most of the tours run on demand rather than on fixed schedules. Being flexible will be very helpful. I took the two-day Maramures tour in 2015. It was excellent and dirt-cheap (about 100 euros plus about 20 euros for a comfortable room (bath down the hall) and three meals of home-produced food at a rural B&B. Our guide was Florin, whose regular job was as a high school history teacher, but he had also done a stint as a taxi driver in Greece. He used his own car, which was very comfortable for the three tour members. Some tour groups may be large enough to use vans.

In Bulgaria I went to Veliko Tarnovo and Plovdiv, two cities with notable historic architecture; Nesebar and Sozopol, two smaller towns on the coast with tiny, very old churches; and Bucharest. Bucharest is a frustrating place for architecture buffs; Ceausescu wiped out a large percentage of the older buildings. But as the capital, it has some museums I would have liked to see.

As for public transportation in both Romania and Bulgaria: pack a load of patience. Trains are relatively few and were no faster than buses; figure on about 30 mph. Romania had a really strange quirk which I hope is now history: You had to reserve a seat on inter-city buses in advance, but you couldn't do that by going to the bus station. You had to make a telephone call to the appropriate bus company, and you have to assume bus-company staff in Romania do not speak English. I wasn't going to attempt such phone calls. Fortunately, kind Romanians stepped in to help me out on two or three occasions. I have no experience driving in either country, but my buses took a lot of roads that were not freeways--narrow, curving, etc.

I have overnighted in Nis. It was interesting for at least a short stop; it seemed not totally westernized. Serbia itself is a bit...different. I've spent more time in the north (Belgrade, Novi Sad and Subotica) than the south. Belgrade was worth about a week to me. Novi Sad and Subotica have much Art Nouveau architecture, and I stayed 3 or 4 nights in each of those cities. There are transit links between Subotica and Szeged, Hungary (which also has a lot of Art Nouveau); there aren't many options for crossing that border on the ground via public transportation.

Budapest is as fabulous as Mr. E says it is, but there are many additional worthwhile places in Hungary. I tend to head to places known for their architecture, and I have loved Szeged (more great Art Nouveau) and Kecskemet, which are both on the way from Serbia up to Budapest. As the home of Zsolnay ceramics, Pecs is especially a great option for lovers of decorative arts. However, I think you'd have to go all the way to Budapest to pick up a train to Pecs, despite its location not all that far from Szeged; maybe there's a bus link.

In western Hungary I liked both Sopron and, especially, Gyor, but they are not particularly geographically convenient if you're traveling north from Serbia. Romania and Bulgaria are more challenging to get to, so I'd suggest allocating as much time as you need to see them to your satisfaction. Make Hungary a separate trip, maybe with northern Serbia; don't try for more than Budapest this time.

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I used Gate 1 a few times many years ago. They were good and the current reviews are all good too. I think you will enjoy. The time of year, darn near perfect for the region.

Of course you want to end up in Budapest :-) Sorry not enough time in Timisoara. I havent been but I understand it is very sweet. If you wanted to return I think you almost have to fly from Bucharest. Then once there it is a 6+ hour train to Budapest. The flight and the train is a lot of travel. Maybe you could buy legs to Szeged and Kecskemét on the way to Budapest? Those would be worth visiting. Or you could to Belgrade from Timisoara and fly from there? But Serbia isnt one of my favorite places…..

Generally from Bucharest to Budapest I fly. Ive made the trip several times and the airports at both ends are good. You can fly out of Brasov now as well.

Bulgaria is a great starting place for the tour. Again, a place ive visited on a few occasions and a favorite. Too many places I want to get back to and cant do them all. Public transportation in Bulgaria has a lot to be desired. Driving is something I just wont do on a holiday. Fortunately for me I met a good guide on my first trip and have used her on every trip. She even drove me from Sofia to Istanbul one time. We stopped and went fishing at every river and stream we crossed (it took almost a week) Then there was the road to the Devil’s Throat on another trip. Have you seen those Death Road Trucker television shows? One of those roads. If I had been using public transportation I would have missed this. We just saw a sign and decided to explore. Magical and beautiful day. And the cost of such things (guides) is a fraction of the cost in the West.

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If you have ten days for Budapest in September / October, then do definitely go exploring. Pecs, Gyor, Pannonhalma, Eger, Lillafüred, Tihany, Székesfehérvár, Siófok, The Fortresses at Komárom, Szentendre, Visegrad, Esztergom are a few locations you might want to google and check out. Then if you want to visit some wineries that’s always a good excuse to get out and drive the country.

A lot can be done from a base in Budapest as day trips or overnight trips. So you sort of live the life and travel around like a local would.

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Budapest is as fabulous as Mr. E says it is

Acraven, I have had to come to terms with the fact that different people enjoy different things. If you are into polished marble and high society .... sure there is a lot here, but in reality you will enjoy Vienna more. This is more like .... well you know most cities have "that" district. You know the old warehouse district turned into the In-place to be or the historic town square or the ...... the entire of Budapest is that place with warts and all.

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First, I just realized I was mistaken about the itinerary. The tour does not go to Timișoara but rather Sighișoara.

acraven, your advice is just gold! Thank you so much! Maramures sounds really wonderful and I will do my best to get there. I like the idea of a tour from the Retro Hostel in Cluj-Napoca, and will check into that. And I will definitely allocate time to Timișoara (especially since I realized the tour does not go there). It also might make sense to save the rest of Hungary for another trip and just stick with Budapest for now. Of course, I could add more time onto my trip, but given that this is all new territory for me, I don't want to tire myself out too much. And thanks for all the tips on transport and using day tours. This will be invaluable. I will continue to review all these posts in much more detail as the area sounds really fascinating! And like you, I do love architecture; all kinds, so I'm very excited about this.

I'm now thinking that maybe instead of doing 2 10-day trips bookending the tour, I might change it to a 2 week trip before the tour, and then fly from Romania and head to Budapest for 7 days, then fly home from there.

Mr. E., first, thanks for the info on Gate 1. That is good to know. And all the rest of your oh-so-invaluable advice. So I'm thinking now that I would head straight to Budapest by flying there as you suggest and spending 7+ days/nights, and then maybe taking some day trips from there. As much as I would love to explore the rest of Hungary, I think it perhaps makes more sense to save it for a separate trip (including Budapest again, I'm sure). Although that could change of course. The more I look at Hungary and all of that region, the more time I want to spend there. It's certainly cheaper than England. And thank you so much for Pavlina's information. I will definitely check that out (although I'm not much into fishing). ;-)

I had to laugh at your comment about Vienna. I enjoyed Vienna, but it's definitely not my favorite city, so from your description, I have a feeling that I will really like Budapest.

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Then we need to find you then perfect accommodations.

One not in the books day trip you might enjoy is a winery visit. Even if wine isn't a huge thing for you, gets you out of town, into some beautiful country, and cellars are also interesting. I know one small family winery that does dinners and tastings in the cellar usually once a month. You might be the only non-Hungarian there. Not to worry, the owner's daughter speaks English. The town is cute too.

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That sounds wonderful. And I like wine (a lot), so visiting a winery would be right up my alley. :-) Thanks!

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Ah, Mardee - you did it!

I am still looking at dates myself for September. I am going to go back through all this info on Romania since I know I won’t be taking a full tour (probably short tours like acraven mentioned). And a week in Budapest at the end will be wonderful!

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Yes, TTM! Except I still need to book flights, and I just realized I can't book anything until January as we may be moving either to Minneapolis or possibly out-of-state. But a lot depends on a few factors, which won't come into fruition until the end of the year.

That said, it looks like my full tour will only be about a third of my trip, if I wind up with 2 weeks beforehand and 7-10 days after. So I'll probably be doing some day tours as well.

But definitely agree about a week in Budapest at the end!