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Planning for Paris/Brussels/Amsterdam

Hello, forum friends. I hope you are not too weary of weighing in on itinerary questions, as I always appreciate your feedback. We are taking the RS Greece tour in April and had planned to spend the week before in Turkey, but some visa difficulties have us changing to another plan. We have decided to instead fly into Paris, spend a few days, possibly visit Belgium and end in Amsterdam before heading to Greece.

A bit about us: we love architecture, gardens, food, and photography. We like to spend a couple of hours here and there at important museums, but we are art novices and burn out quickly. We enjoy visiting churches and palaces and castles. We like to travel at a quick pace and spend long days sightseeing. We have spent 4 nights in Paris on a prior trip (we visited Notre Dame, the Louvre, St. Chapelle, the palace Garnier, and Versaille then), but the other destinations are new to us. Our very loose plan is as follows:

Saturday 4/14 - arrive in Paris mid-afternoon. No concrete plans, just walk about town, visit parks, possibly visit Sacre-Coeur, have dinner.

Sunday 4/15 - Visit the Orsay and Orangerie museums. Revisit St. Chapelle if time allows.

Monday 4/16 - Visit Giverny. This one is non-negotiable, as it is the main reason for starting in Paris.

Tuesday 4/17 - Belgium. This is where we need the most help. I am more drawn to the smaller cities of Ghent and Bruges. The only real draw for me in Brussels is the Grand Place. I feel I would prefer to stay in Ghent for 2 nights and day trip to Bruges on the second day. That would give us an afternoon and 2 evenings in Ghent and one morning/afternoon in Bruge. But since we are coming from Paris and leaving after only 2 nights to Amsterdam, I know Brussels would have a more direct connection, so I'm not sure if it would be smarter to stay in Brussels for ease of connections and just day trip to the smaller towns. I honestly don't have a burning desire to see any particular sight in any of the three cities, but would like the opportunity to try their specialties and admire the small canal towns for photography purposes.

Wednesday 4/18 - day trip to Bruges (or Ghent and Bruges if we stay in Brussels).

Thursday 4/19 - Morning train to Amsterdam. Rijksmuseum or Van Gogh museum, walk along the canals, dinner.

Friday 4/20 - Keukenhof gardens and bike through flower fields. This is non-negotiable because it is the reason we are going to the Netherlands, but could be traded for Saturday depending on weather.

Saturday 4/21 - Rijksmuseum or Van Gogh, city walks. Possible canal cruise?

Sunday 4/22 - Anne Frank House. Lunch, and then head to airport for evening flight to Athens.

Monday 4/23 - RS Greece tour starts in evening.

I am not 100% sold on Belgium and could be talked out of it if you all think it's much too rushed, but I thought it might be a nice opportunity to see a bit of the country, since I don't foresee making that a destination of its own any time soon. The train times seem very reasonable between these destinations, about 2 hours. I would love any feedback. Sorry this was so long, thanks for your time!

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It sounds like a good plan.

Paris - consider going to an evening concert at Sainte-Chapelle. You'll be able to enjoy the stained glass before and during the concert and avoid the crowds and long security line. Monday might be a better night than Sunday. Giverny is small. Even with lingering, you'll be there for about 3 hours - not including the time it takes to get there and back from Vernon. Buy your train tickets to Vernon in advance! I nearly missed my train on a Monday morning in mid April waiting in the ticket line in Paris. You can buy return tickets when you are ready to return to Paris. It's also a good idea to buy your Giverny entrance tickets in advance. The line at the sight can be excruciatingly slow. Consider spending an hour or two wandering around Vernon before going back. It's a pleasant little town. You can rent bikes in Vernon and ride to Giverny - probably faster than the shuttle bus because of the lines and irregular schedule. For photos, to get to Giverny when it opens and make a beeline for the lily ponds to get some photos before they're lined with people.

Belgium - I prefer staying in Ghent. It's not as touristy as Bruges and it's very lovely after dark when the Gothic buildings and bridges are floodlit. And it's straightforward to change trains in Brussels. Bruges is very photogenic. Both towns have worthwhile sights. You'll enjoy a day in each.

Consider renting bikes while you're in Amsterdam. You'll really feel like locals.

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Thank you so much for your feedback, Chani. I am glad the itinerary sounds reasonable. I have settled on staying in Ghent, I'm glad to hear you liked it. I will look into the concert in Saint Chapelle - I was interested in it but wasn't sure if you would be able to enjoy the stained glass in the evening? Either way, it sounds like a very nice experience. I appreciate your tips on visiting Giverny as well. Thank you so much!

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I also think this is a good plan.

Will you be traveling light enough to visit the Grand Palais enroute? I believe Brusssels Midi has left-luggage facilities.

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I love Belgium; out of all the western European countries it seems to me under promoted in comparison to especially UK and Germany. You should check out Dinant on a daytrip if possible.

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Thank you for the suggestion, Adam. We usually take a carryon suitcase and a backpack, so I will definitely look into the left luggage option. We did something like that in Milan to see the Duomo on the way to Lake Como and it worked out fine.

Jazz+Travels, thanks for the encouragement. You definitely hear less about Belgium. Maybe this will end up being a scouting trip for a future visit!

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Sainte-Chapelle. There are often two concerts in the evening. Last time I went, there were 3 tiers of prices, most expensive in the front, least expensive in the back, seating was not reserved. If you go for the first concert and get there when the doors open, you can choose your seats in your section, then walk around looking at the windows and taking photos until the concert begins. The chapel is well-lit during the concert as well, so you'll be able to see the windows in the front and those nearest you on the sides. Binoculars help. BTW I chose the middle section and was happy.

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Tamara, the relative virtues of the cities of Northeast Belgium are endlessly discussed. I think you'll get more from the Search Box (top center) than you will from a single discussion thread (i.e. yours.) I'll only add that local trains are so frequent in Belgium that you can sleep in any city you want. Do use Google Maps to determine how far your hotel is from the train station. You have already selected Ghent. I believe there are a few direct trains to Antwerp from Paris, which might change your mind about that.

You have chosen to cover a lot of ground. I guess you are willing to spend that travel time in order to get to the places you want to see on a single trip. I would not go, for example, from Amsterdam to Greece after all the travel you've scheduled already. Remember that you can't reserve Anne Frank too soon. There are a lot of things to see anywhere in Europe!

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Thanks Chani, I will plan on going to the earlier concert and arriving early!

Tim - thank you for your advice, I will have to make sure to put a reminder on my calender to purchase Anne Frank tickets- looks like on the website they can only be done 2 months in advance. Normally I wouldn't cover this much ground on one trip either, but we had a bump in our plans. Luckily we like to move fast, so I think we will still enjoy it. Once we get to Greece and start our tour all the "work" will be over and we can relax for 2 weeks. :)