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My First Solo Back-packing Travel

Hi guys
I've got a trip in mind that I plan to do through Feb 2018. I'm looking to fly to Istanbul from London and journey upwards like this:
Istanbul - 6 nights (overnight train to Sofia)
Sofia - 2 nights
Belgrade - 2/3 nights
Sarajevo - 4 nights
Mostar - 1 day
Dubrovnik - 3 nights
Split - 3 nights
Zadar - 2 nights
Ljubljana - 3 nights
Vienna - 1 night
Bratislava - 2 nights
Krakow - 3 nights
Warsaw.

Im 26, and it's my first solo trip so just wondered if the above itinerary looks good - I hope to meet fellow travelers while staying at hostels, take bus/train between each destination. I speak only English. Im hoping to spend no more than 1500 pounds. Any tips/recommendations re the above (places, how much time i should stay in each, costs etc) would be great.
Cheers

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I found that a lot of young people in the Balkans spoke English during my 2015 visit to the area, so I think you'll have some opportunities for substantive discussions with local residents as well as with other travelers you meet in hostels.

I see the night train to Sofia on the Deutsche Bahn website, but I don't think it carries any sleeping cars. That wouldn't work for me, but perhaps it's OK for you. You'll be changing trains in Plovdiv at 6 AM (if the train is on time, and I'm not sure you can count on that). Plovdiv is a lovely historic town, well worth a visit. I preferred it to Sofia, though there is stuff to see in Sofia as well. It seems a shame to blitz through Bulgaria, seeing only Sofia.

While in Belgrade I enjoyed a day-trip to Novi Sad. It has a picturesque old town with what I'd call a sort of hippie vibe.

If you haven't checked all the rail or bus links, you need to do that, to be sure your connections pass the viability test. For example, Rome2Rio thinks there's a Serbian Railways day train from Sofia to Belgrade and a Bulgarian Railways night train (33 hours!!), but the Deutsche Bahn website doesn't find a schedule for either one. I have a feeling that rail link may not exist. I assume you can cobble together some sort of bus routing, but you're traveling in mid-winter, and I don't know what the road conditions will be like. Transportation in the Balkans aside from Croatia and Slovenia tends to be quite slow. I figured I moved around at about 30 mph, no matter whether I was on a bus or a train. You have a lot of days that will be spent mostly getting to your next city.

I took buses from Sofia to Nis (southern Sebia) and from Nis to Podgorica, Montenegro, during September 2015. The leg westward from Nis was lovely, but I'm remembering mountains and wondering what that would be like in the winter.

Although you're traveling during the off-season, it would be prudent not to wait until the last minute to buy tickets for any cross-border buses you need to take. They run infrequently, and it's possible to run into a sell-out, especially around weekends and holidays. Pre-booking a few key long-distance trains might save you some money, but I'd do it only if the savings are substantial, because you'll lose flexibility with non-refundable tickets.

I don't know the best places to look for info on hostels, but booking.com typically has some apartments mixed in with its hotel listings, and hostels sometimes show up, too.

I loved Romania and think it's a shame you won't see it.

I'm a bit worried about the time of year you've chosen. I am definitely not a winter traveler.

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Thanks jazz travels - I may want to reconsider Istanbul. Such a shame as it's somewhere im very keen to see.

Akravan - cheers for the comment. I hear ya about the winter. Im ok in cold but im hoping i get plenty dry days. I may look into Romania if i start out in Sofia instead of Istanbul.

Those days trips sound good!

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I haven't looked at your Itinerary in detail, but my first thought is that I'd eliminate the one night stops. Once travel time is included, one night really only allows a few hours in a location, so in most cases it's not worth the effort. I'd suggest at least two nights in each place. Have a close look at the transportation times between each of your destinations, as you may find that you have to reduce the list somewhat. For example, Dubrovnik to Split is only possible by Bus (no rail link), so you'd need to allow more time for that segment.

You might have a look at the HI Hostels website as they have properties in many countries. I've found their Hostels are generally well run and fairly consistent from one property to the next. Prices are a bit lower if you have a membership. As you may be aware, for hostel stays you'll need to pack a towel, some flip-flops and a small but robust Padlock for the lockers.

Happy travels!

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If you have 33 nights then ideally make it a maximum of 11 destinations. Ie. 3 nights average stay. And yes, eliminate all one nighters for a trip this long.

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My thoughts are to drop one of the destinations. Im thinking i might drop Bratislava then - or is Bratislava a place i shouldnt miss?

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If you're only going to spend one night in Vienna, you might as well skip it and come back another time. There is too much to see and do there. One night won't even scratch the surface.

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I suggest dropping Bratislava. From Vienna to Krakow there is also the night train option. You'll add another day to the trip.

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Thanks for all the comments people. Ive bought my ticket to Istanbul - very excited to see it. I will be getting a train outta Istanbul so I wont have a return flight out - hope thats fine with border security?
The reason for my 1 day in Vienna is costs. Vienna is expensive yet id like to see it because im so close to it after Slovenia. I understand a day in any great city is not enough but i figure it is better than none. Might stretch it to 2 days 1 night. I am reading that, due to it being low season, my buses / trains between destinations can be bought on the day or the day before. Im a bit wary of paying for tickets online so do you think im fine just doing that?
Also, do you think 1500 euros is enough for this trip given im gonna be in hostels and getting cheap transport?
Cheers

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I think your budget is going to be tight if the 1500 euros is intended to cover all of lodgings, food, transportation and the occasional entry fee somewhere. On your budget, the entry fees to Plitvice and Postojna or Skocjan Caves are going to feel pretty costly. It may be doable, because buses and trains in that part of Europe are often a bargain. On the other hand, I have absolutely no idea what hostels charge.

I haven't covered many of the exact travel legs you plan, but I spent time in some of the same countries two years ago. Here are my bus/train fares from 2015, converted roughly to euros at now-current exchange rates, all one way except as noted. I'd expect fares to be a bit higher now.

Munich-Ljubljana: bus €39
Ljubljana-Bled: bus roundtrip €14
Ljubljana-Divaca (for Skocjan caves): bus €9 or train €8
Ljubljana-Rovinj (Croatian Istria): bus €22
Rovinj-Zagreb: bus €18
Zagreb-Plitvice: bus €24 round-trip
Zagreb-Belgrade: bus €29
Belgrade-Novi Sad: bus €11 round-trip
Belgrade-Timisoara (Romania): train €7 (Sofia is at least 3 times as far)
Sofia-Nis (Serbia): bus €12 (Belgrad is about 3 times as far)
Dubrovnik-Split: bus €15
Split-Zadar: bus €11
Zadar-Zagreb: bus €15

City trams in Zagreb were about €1.30 per ride.