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Most underrated?

Well, the "most overrated" thread seems to have brought out some interesting opinions. How about the flip side? What little-known gems or less appreciated destinations do you think don't get the credence they deserve? Here are some of my nominees.

Hamburg This is one of the most visited cities in Germany, but much of the traffic is trade-show related, and it's not on the typical list of North American travelers. I traveled there almost soley to check out the amazing Miniatur Wunderland, but the city really impressed me. Even though it was hit heavily during WWII, much of the city is restored to its Gründerzeit glory. Of Germany's five largest cities, I would rate it overall the most attractive.

Speaking of the Gründerzeit, Leipzig is another city that completely surprised me. I don't understand how Rick Steves can call this city "architecturally bland". True, only a handful of buildings remain from before the second half of the 19th century, but considering that this was one of the wealthiest periods of German history, it really shows through in Leipzig. And, it's a really lively place with a large student population. Finally, it has the best zoo in Germany, which would be the equivalent of being the best wine in France, or best beach in Greece.

I mostly think the Black Forest is well known in the English speaking world because the name translates easily. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's only one of about fifty forested mountain ranges that criss-cross southern and central Germany. However, if you want to see the one, that's really special, head to the Hartz and check out some of the towns at the feet of the mountains. Mainly, the amazing Quedlinburg (if you like Fachwerk, prepare to get drunk off it here), Wernigerode and Goslar. Other than their lack of defensive walls, any one of these towns could give Rothenburg a run for it's money.

Other than the fact that I find the skiing there subpar, I have nothing against Mürren and find it a very nice place to enjoy the Alps. But what if you wanted to stay in another high-altitude Alpine town, one that feels more genuinely... well, Swiss, rather than an international resort? My suggestion would be Flumserburg. It's not so much a distinct village, but rather a series of small hamlets spread across a mountain side. Although the skiing and hiking are top-notch, it has a much more laid-back feel. Like a place where Zürich citizens head to unwind over a weekend.

A few years ago, I would have included Ghent on this list, but now that Rick Steves mentions it in his book, it seems to be getting a fair amount of attention.

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I loved Gent. I'd put it on the list as underrated because most people seem to go straight to Brugge, and that is a shame.

I'd also add Utrecht, which has a similar feel to me as Gent.

I'm also partial to Madrid, especially the neighborhoods away from Sol, which doesn't seem to get nearly as much love as Barcelona.

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Wales! Ireland gets so much love, but Wales is just as great. In fact, I Iike it more.

I also love Brussels, which gets panned by a lot of people on this forum.

Finally, I was surprised at how nice Liverpool was (back in 2002), although I get the sense a lot of people are catching on.

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It's a very slow weekend except for a long-lasting thunderstorm Friday night and wonderful ice cream Saturday.

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Another great topic, Tom!

Leipzig is one of my favorite places in Germany and has two of my favorite churches (1)The St Thomas Church was where Bach was organist and choirmaster for decades. Simply awesome! (2) The Nicolai Church is one of the oldest churches in that part of Germany, but what I like most about it is its role in very modern day Germany - it was the home church of the famous Monday night candle light marches that helped bring down the Wall. I have spent many, many days in Leipzig enjoying the city's ambiance and culture, including often eating at the restaurant where Goethe set one of the most famous scenes from his epic poem, Faust. There are several very good locations nearby for either overnight stays or dat trips, including Lutherstadt Wittenberg, and several other Luther sites. It is a real shame Rick ignores this wonderful corner of Germany.

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Yes, slow weekend, with really awful weather - stuck inside.

Rick doesn't give much credit to Lake Maggiore in Italy which we spent 3 days at with 6 other people. We loved the boat to the islands, Stressa, and no crowds. Well, now I've done it.

Also, Aosta. No one seems to know much about it but it was a charming gem. We spent two nights there and would have stayed another night or so if we could have. Enjoyed the drive up to Switzerland.

Adventure out - there's more there to enjoy.

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not so much under rated but perhaps over looked as an option, would be staying in small towns that border the large cities. ( while I enjoy the ability of staying in a large city and getting straight out 'into the action') often this can prevent you from discovering the smaller towns. that can be very interesting. and you still get to easily visit the nearby city.

for example Lido Jesolo , just so different from nearby Venice and yet so close. And Fiesole, just outside Florence.
No doubt there are heaps more, people could add.

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The Botanical Gardens and the Galleria Nazionale D'Arte Antica in Trastevere seem like there are hardly ever any English-speakers there, so local couples wanting to make out have them to their own. It's strange to me that people often say they want a break from the hustle-bustle of urban spaces, but then they don't take advantage of places like these.

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I agree that in Germany the cities of Hamburg and Leipzig are totally underestimated/underrated by North American tourists. If my first hosteling experience is any indication, I started out in Germany from Lübeck, Hamburg, Bremen, etc working my way south in the course of seven weeks ending up in Munich on this first trip. The more south I got, the more Americans I saw in the hostels with Heidelberg and Munich having the most. On that trip I skipped Frankfurt intentionally, looking back that was probably a mistake. Americans have always focused on southern Germany and not north of Frankfurt.

Hamburg is the culture center of north Germany, Reeperbahn is only one aspect There is also the vast cultural scene of Hamburg, its famous university noted for History, radio orchestra , the press, NDR, Staatsoper, etc. Before one could go to England from Hamburg by ferry...gone. I went to Hamburg on both my first two trips in Germany, went back as a day trip last June too. Now, Leipzig I would say if one is deeply into classical music, in particular German Romanticism, Leipzig is the place, ie to see the museums/houses of Schumann, Mendelsohn, Liszt, Wagner, and the representative of another music era, Bach. The Leipziger Messe is world famous. I've been to Leipzig twice but as yet not the Innenstadt.

I agree with Wernigerode and Goslar, haven't been to either, even though I almost went there in 1987 but opted for Göttingen instead. Numerous smaller places/towns are underestimated by Americans traveling in Germany...Marburg an der Lahn, Tübingen, Weimar, Meißen, Schwerin, Celle, Bad Ems, Lüneburg, Münster/Westf., Minden an der Weser and more. How about seeing the Hermannsdenkmal in Detmold, or the area of Schleswig-Holstein?

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One of the problemsd is that many folk will only go on organised tours with the company they are travelling with or use the day tour companies of the place they are visiting and they missed out on some real gems.
I am a regular traveller to Prague and when there head off to the less well trod places, yes you might have to use public transport but it is easy enough.
some of my favourite place within easy reach of Prague or indeed with in the city are listed below.
http://www.lidice-memorial.cz/en/
this is the village that was destroyed after the Reinhard Heydrich assassination.

http://www.czechtourism.com/c/prague-pruhonice-chateau-arboretum/

this is a lovely Botanic gardens just 15 minutes by bus from the southern part of Prague.

http://www.prague.eu/en/object/places/488/letna-parks-letenske-sady

Letna park, stunning views over the city but most tourist miss it out completely ,also has a great beer garden for a bit of refreshment with great views.
http://www.praguebeergarden.com/pubs/post/riegrovy-sady-beer-garden

Reigrovy Sady beer garden, brilliant for watching live sport and sinking a few beers.

http://www.nm.cz/Hlavni-strana/Visit-Us/National-Memorial-on-the-Vitkov-Hill.html?xSET=lang&xLANG=2

National memorial, most folk can see it but seldom get there, wonderful museum there and the staff are really nice, down the bottom of the hill is the Army museum ,quite brilliant and last time I was in there were 2 special exhibitions ,one of the first world war and another on the resistance movement during the second world war.
I could go on about the number of great bars a restuarants that are away from the tourist areas that serve real good food and fantastic beer at prices a fraction of the prices you pay in the tourist areas.

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Over the years I've developed a soft spot for those smaller provincial cities which might not have all those highlights, but have their charms in a quiet way. I don't mind whether they're touristy or not. It's the kind of tourists that counts.
I've fallen in love with Northern Germany. Lübeck is a beauty, and somehow I've good memories of Wismar.
If Gent has fallen victim to the coach parties, quiet Mechelen is still wonderful. Mons is a beauty and I still wonder why, a couple of years ago, I was the only one walking along the Canal du Centre, World Heritage for its almost surrealistic hydraulic boat lifts.
Poland seems to be limited to three destinations: Warsaw, Kraków and Gdansk. I found Lódz a wonderful place, Wroclaw a beauty and Zamosc a revelation.
In the Netherlands Amsterdam seems to be the only place considered, with a daytrip to the Keukenhof for those interested in gardens and maybe the bus to Edam and Volendam. Haarlem is slowly getting on the tourist map, but cities like Utrecht (rightly mentioned above) and Dordrecht are totally forgotten. Who knows about the wonderful fortified town of Naarden or visits the pleasant historical cities along the IJssel, such as Zwolle or Kampen?

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Poland seems to be limited to three destinations: Warsaw, Kraków and Gdansk.

Ditto, although I don't think this is as much true for Germans and other Europeans who travel there since it's closer to them. There are a lot of really interesting cities and small towns outside of these three (it's a big country after all). I'll name just one: Kazimierz Dolny

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Meiringen

Naarden was on my list and you beat me to it

Aachen

Luxembourg

Heidelberg

Gengenbach

Kortrijk

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There are a lot of really interesting cities and small towns outside of these three
You're totally right. I limited my list to some highlights, but I enjoyed my stay in Leszno, found Czestochowa interesting, thought Lublin worthwhile and Poznan somewhat disappointing, but with a marvellous Rynek (and a hateful railway station, but with an excellent service to Berlin). And, indeed, I belong to the category of »other Europeans«.

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And, indeed, I belong to the category of »other Europeans«.

By the way, no disrespect meant by that at all...I only singled out Germany because it's adjacent to Poland and sees the most number of visitors from Germany (more so than other EU and non-EU members in Europe).

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These are some great places to check out. I heartily agree with Heidelberg - we love it there. One our favorite place to pause is Ulm. Even though it is a small city the old city still feels small. Just don't stop there on a Sunday hungry - nothing is open!

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Freiburg Germany requires more attention. It is one of the most beautiful cities that I have visited in Germany, and it doesn't get promoted all that much. It is extremely south and has one of the best temperate climates in the country. It is also only about a 30 min drive the the France border, 2 hours or so to the Swiss border, and about 4 hours to the Italian border. Next time I go back, I plan to have breakfast in France, lunch in Switzerland, Dinner in Italy, and a nightcap back in Germany......just so I can say I was in four countries in one day.

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no disrespect meant
No disrespect understood! And Kazimierz Dolny is a real beauty, judging from Google Streetview.

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Tom, how did you like the Miniatur Wunderland? I have only seen it on You Tube but it looks amazing. Just wondered what it was like and how long it took to see it.

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Totally agree with Freiberg, Germany and Liverpool, UK.

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Miniatur Wunderland is one of the most amazing things in the world. Right up there with the Grand Canyon, Taj Mahal, and the Terra Cotta statues! Last visited it about three years ago and haven't stopped thinking about it. Takes several hours to take it all in. It's very popular and often busy. On some nights of the week its open late until around 11pm. If you visit in the evening you will have the place mostly to yourself. Planning to visit again in the fall when they open their new Italy section.

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I forgot some Italian gems. Padua (Padova) is like Haarlem: eclipsed by its more famous neighbour. The majority of its visitors seem to be pilgrims for Saint Anthony. In that region Mantua (Mantova) is also undeservedly - but agreeable - quiet. But the real gem is Sabbioneta, a Renaissance fortified town with all the fasionable stuff of that age, such as the Teatro all'Antico. Very well worth the bus ride from Mantua.

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My #1 underrated place I've visited is Sarajevo. So many people go to Croatia nowadays, and if they venture into Bosnia at all, they go to Mostar, but Sarajevo is often passed up. Maybe it's too far and too inconvenient to include in an itinerary to that region, but I've never been anywhere in Europe that felt so immediate, where history kind of hits you in the face. It has a small but very pleasant historic district, and it has so much more worth seeing outside that area. Plus it has some of the best-tasting tap water I've ever had.

I visited Graz on my first trip to Europe, and I remember thinking it was my favorite place I visited on that entire trip, but almost 30 years later I can't remember why. But I was on a tour, and I remember breaking away from the tour group and exploring on my own, and maybe that was the first place where I was bitten by the independent traveler bug.

Kalmar makes a great place for a few nights in Sweden. Kalmar Slott (which is actually more impressive from the outside than the inside), the baroque cathedral, and the magnificent ruins of Borgholm Slott on neighboring Öland were some of the highlights for me.

There are a lot of Tuscan hill towns that everyone makes a point of getting to. One that is less popular but still worth a visit is Bagno Vignoni, with its thermal pool right in the center of the village.

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My #1 underrated place I've visited is Sarajevo. So many people go to Croatia nowadays, and if they venture into Bosnia at all, they go to Mostar, but Sarajevo is often passed up.

Totally agree with this. Sarajevo and Bosnia outside of Mostar is very well worth going to, especially if you're interested in the history of the Balkans and events preceding World War I. Come to think of it, most former Yugoslavian countries are underrated, except for Croatia due to its well-marketed coastline (and Slovenia as well).

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I won't give mine, because then everyone will want to go there, and then, as Yogi Berra said: Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded.

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Extremadura, Spain is beautiful and is often overlooked by tourists. There are wonderful Roman ruins, castles, medeival towns where you feel like you have stepped back in history. Places like Cáceres, Trujillo, Guadalupe, Plasencia, Mérida, Badajoz and the pretty countryside and small towns beg to be explored. I, personally, would much rather visit Extremadura than Barcelona. Much cheaper, too!

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The Harz, not just for the Fachwerk towns on the flat lands, but for the mountains themselves. Take the narrow gauge steam train to the top of the Brocken, northern Germany's highest mountain. I stayed in Braunlage, actually in the mountains, and took rides on the buses that go all over the park. It's beautiful.

The Black Forest, the northern part. You say there are other forests like it in Germany, but it is still lovely. I've stayed in four towns in the northern part and visited a half dozen others. It's a great place to spend a relaxing vacation.

The Oberallgäu. Oberstdorf and the Illertal. As close as you are going to get to an Alpine valley in Germany. And take the bus up into Kleinwalsertal, part of Austria but isolated from it by the mountains. Lots of lifts and hiking trains.

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Tom, how did you like the Miniatur Wunderland?

Read Michael Schneider's comments. I agree completely.

Nigel- Kortrijk? I really wanted it to be an undiscovered gem. It's not without it's charms, but it just didn't do it for me. Even with the belfry, begijnhof and all. Tournai, though, different story.

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Most underrated? The whole country of Slovakia. For most people Slovakia = Bratislava. That's not the case. If you on't have time you can skip Bratislava. It has a cute little downtown. But High Tatras? Spis Castle, Brava Castle, Trencin town and Castle, Banska Stiavnica, Kremnica, Levoca, Kezmarok, Vlkolinec?

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Umbria is so lovely and so few people go there (besides Assisi).Spello is darling

Abruzzo where few North Americans manage to travel

Puglia as above. Fabulous food, very inexpensive. Some of the best wines for the money.

The Dolomites beyond Bolzano and Castlerotto

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Ravenna. We've all heard of the mosaics (which are truly wonderful), but I somehow didn't realize that the town has a very pretty historic district as well. And there really weren't many tourists around on a Sunday in mid-July. I'm still flummoxed about that; maybe there was some important festival going on nearby that sucked up all the other tourists the day I was there. Ravenna ended up being one of the least-busy towns I visited on a trip that included about 2 months bouncing around the Balkan peninsula. Compare to Assisi, which is also lovely and definitely worth a visit but very heavily touristed.

Any place away from the coast on almost any island. Everyone wants the beach. Just head for the hills and you may find yourself alone with the locals.

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Any spots in Hungary that anyone is aware of? I'm planning several days in Budapest soon and would like to get off the beaten
track on a side trip.. Only other town I've been to is Eger, but I would like to visit some hidden gem if anyone is aware of one.
Thanks, all.
Sharon

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Tom,

Kortrijk is just so laid back, compact, pleasant, near to but NOT Lille (thank goodness), very near the places my World War One relative fought and was killed and is buried, the whole Salient, has a MediaMarkt (Nigel is a happy boy), easy parking, and nice folk.

If you want a substitute choice, try my favourite Dutch small town, Bergen op Zoom.

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Most surprising - how much I enjoyed our visit to the Historic Dockyards in Portsmouth, UK. After going to Ports 5 times (for sister visit) we bit the bullet last year and finally did the dockyards. I was prepared for boredom as I'm not a huge fan of naval history - but...walking around the Warrior was interesting, I enjoyed the harbour cruise, the Victory was OK, but my absolute fav - which really surprised me - was the Mary Rose. The artifacts - wow. I could have spent another hour just looking at and reading everything (and we were prob there a good hour) but hunger and sore feet made me go thru faster.

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Any spots in Hungary that anyone is aware of?
Somewhere on a list I have Esterháza, the grandest of the Esterhazy palaces. It's a short walk from the railway station in Fertőszentmiklós, which is a 2 hr ride from Budapest with an hourly train.

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I love the Natural History museum in Paris but I seldom hear or read of people who have it on their Paris agenda. Dinosaurs, people! And there's a terrific garden/park next to it to have lunch in afterwards.

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So Nigel, does that mean I shouldn't say I love Lille? We did spend almost all of our time in the old town section. I loved the museum, the metro with just two lines, good shopping and my daughter had scoped out delicious food. It was 10 years ago, so maybe things have changed.

I also love Portsmouth. It's another town we've been able to feel comfortable in quickly. We loved the docklands museum complex and spent two days there. The breadth of British naval history is impressive and then the harbor cruise brings history up to present. It's easy to ramble into the central shopping g district and we also enjoyed the bustle of Gunwharf Quay. There is quite the D-Day history there and we enjoyed the D-Day museum with knowledgeable docents.

Carmona in Spain is another small town perched on a hill with a view worth seeing. It's another town that doesn't get many tourists, so you really are folded into the life of the town. There is something very pleasant about sitting at a sidewalk cafe watching kids play games in the central square. Both Seville and Córdoba are easy drives, but you can return at the end of the day to a town with few tourists.

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I've been twice to Lille as day trips from Arras, a few years apart, the last time in 2003 (?), don't recall the exact year. I like the centre ville, interesting. True, there is a different feel to the place. I regret not having more time to find something on DeGaulle. In northern France I would suggest the three major cities...Amiens, Arras, and Lille.

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Some may love Lille. Fair enough.

I don't, and I have to be in or near it several times a year.

Different strokes for different folks.

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Tho, perhaps, not exactly "Underrated" , LIECHTENSTEIN should be on this list. Most folks see only the capitol , Vaduz. That is also where the few "bus-tours" make a stop. The mini-country has more to offer. There are several scenic hiking trails above Vaduz with marvellous views of the rhine valley and the Santis Alps. Ditto for the quaint town of Triesenberg. Balzars has a neat castle. And Malbun, in the interior, is a ski-resort. Not as extensive as swiss or austrian counterparts, but a scenic addition to the principality.

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This is a great topic.

I suggest Great Malvern. There are no tourist destination museums there or any museums at all, and while there are Tudor houses, there are no architectural master pieces. But it is a charming little village. It's a sleepy town with a small station but it has good access to Oxford and is a good jumping off place for Wales. If you are North American, you will be the only North Americans there. The reason I recommend it is the hills. Walking the hills is great empty country walking with long vistas over farm lands. The rural views are some of the very best. I'd stay two full days, one to walk and one for a daytrip to Oxford or Stratford Upon Avon (overrated if you ask me), or a day walking trip to The Cotswold. Three is too much. Oh, and for England, it's a bargain.

I agree that all of Wales is underrated.

Also on the Welsh border, Chester is the less crowded York.

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I'd say Spain in general. While most people get excited over some Spanish cities, other places like Valladolid, Zamora, Valdepenas, Burgos, Salamanca don't see many tourists and they are well worth the trip. Spain has incredible history and is incredibly affordable.

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Miniatur Wunderland looks similar to several other minis. If you like that sort of thing (I love It), I think the original was Madurodam in Den Haag. I spent a great day at Mini France, an easy bus ride from Paris. Madurodam is imaginary places, Mini France has replicas of the actual places, just about ever well-known sight in the country, including lots of chateaux and beautiful bonsai landscaping. We even have a Mini Israel here. There must be others.

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Miniatur Wunderland looks similar to several other minis.

Not even close:)
Wunderland is in another league. The attention to detail, artistry, technology, sense of humor, and size of the complex puts it mile of ahead of anything else it this category.
Just a few of examples: On a regular schedule there are traffic accidents and plane crashes scattered across the exhibit which produce actual smoke and a responses from the Minitur emergency services.
Also at intervals the lights dim inside the building to simulate a realistic sunrise, night time, and sunset with the buildings and vehicles all beautifully lit up. And if all that isn't enough, meth labs, brothels, terrorists, soccer hooligans, serial killers, pickpockets, horny teenagers, dishonest baggage handlers, are all scattered among the scenery. It would take a lifetime to spot all the in-jokes.

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I agree with other posters about Spain, in general. Specifically are so many wonderful (lightly visited by North Americans) cities to visit such as Zaragoza, Valencia, Burgos, Leon, and Cuenca. The list could go on and on. To so many visitors its only Madrid for the art, Toledo for the cathedral, Granada for the Alhambra, and Barcelona - although the latter is Spanish in name only - for Gaudi.

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Here is my underrated list:

Iceland
Norway
Wales
France:
Normandy and Alsace
Viaden, Luxembourg
Obidos, Portugal
Siena, Italy

Sorry, I would not put Hamburg on an underrated list.

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Most underrated is debatable, but certainly unknown or forgotten are the European microstates - (except for Vatican City and Monaco, which are firmly on the tourist circuit). If you ever watch Last Week Tonight with Jon Oliver/HBO, these would show up in his geography lesson spoofs as countries that no one can locate on a map. Their diminutive size doesn't help either.

  • Liechtenstein
  • Malta
  • Andorra
  • San Marino
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Andorra is not well rated ( I.e. under rated) because it does not deserve to be well rated and is not " vaut le voyage" in Michelin-speak. The drive to get there is fun, but there is no " there" there. It is a shopping mall.

Malta is under rated because a lot of people know nothing of geography, or history, for that matter. But that's fine. It is an interesting island country lacking in swarms of tourists, and therefore pleasant to visit.

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Malta is great but its capital, Valletta, is swarmed with giant cruise ships and full of day trippers...so I guess it's not so underrated after all (I meant with Americans more than anything else, largely because it's not the most convenient place to visit without multiple flight connections, so you need to make an effort). If you just get out of Valletta into the small little towns and villages (or Gozo), it's wonderful (but still incredibly dense for its size). I guess no place that has a cruise port is truly underrated, but it's underrated in a different way given its rich history and treasures (neolithic temples and other archeological artifacts, the Christian legacy of the Knights of Malta, the variety of ruling powers and their influences, old palaces, burial grounds and catacombs, etc.)

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Our routing was simple. Montreal to London, London to Valetta. If it is easy for you to get to London, it is easy to get to Malta.

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Maybe I got to Malta before the cruise ships did or maybe it was too early in the season (beginning of June 2011), but I loved it all. I was on an intensive 5-day tour and it was all beautiful, only the roads were crowded (horrible traffic problems), fascinating history, archeology, wonderful people, good food (lousy wine), quaint fishing villages and picturesque everywhere.

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Another one popped into my head today: Frankfurt am Main. It's the port of entry for the majority of North American traverlers into the country, but it seems most quickly head right for the Rhine, Black Forest, Romantic Road or southern Bavaria. A shame. It really is a nice city. I think what turns off many is either that they see modern sky scrapers and think "Oh, it's just like any city in the US/Canada", or they arrive at the Hauptbahnhof and are greated by a street filled with brothels, strips clubs, gambling parlors and "date bars".

However, I have found the rest of the city very attractive, clean and livable (I would imagine, if I ever lived there). It's not even all modern, which wouldn't be a bad thing anyway, in my opinion. Many of the residential districts maintain their late 19th century elegance, and some, like Höchst, even have that "storeybook" look (Fachwerk) that people travel all the way to Rothenburg to see... missing the point that most of central and southern Germany looks like that. Despite the sky scrapers, I have found that post-war Frankfurt did a much better job of preserving it's history than Köln, Mannheim, Stuttgart, Hannover, Essen, Dortmund or Düsseldorf. And it has all the art, culture, parks, zoos and overall vibrant city life that a traveler could want.

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Great site for tourists heading to the Netherlands. I certainly got a lot more out of the Dutch Resistance Museum than the Anne Frank House and it's in the heart of Amsterdam.

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And I prefer the Jewish Historical Museum to realise what culture has been wiped away. But when it's not on some top-10 of »must-sees« it seems not to exist...