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Please Close Thread : Answered. Luggage pickup: Abort last leg flight US to UK via AMS

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I travel /work extensively in Europe. I am American living in UK. An unusual situation came up. I have tickets from BOS to BHX through AMS. I just found out I need to work in Germany the day after my return so it’s much easier to just abort itinerary In Amstetdam and take the train to Dusseldorf for work the following day. The passport control is easy. But will Delta let me pick up my bag(s) in Amsterdam? Or ... how can I get my bags not checked through?
Cheers
Mike

Posted by
33738 posts

Tell the check in agent and beg for help?

Posted by
5837 posts

While not your intent, terminating at AMS would be what airlines refer to as the "hidden city" ploy. In some cases, a ticket to the hub airpot (e.g. AMS) would be cheaper than that of the final destination connecting through the hub. Passengers would terminate at the hidden city hub and not use the flight to the final destination. Airlines try to combat the hidden city ploy with rules such as terminating the ticket when a leg is not taken. The hidden city ploy usually works by not checking baggage.

If you need to check baggage, and our you have a return flight from BHX, you will need to rebook to AMS as your final destination.

Posted by
2181 posts

Can you just do carryon? Or call Delta and change your ticket to skip the BHX leg?

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5837 posts

https://www.airfarewatchdog.com/blog/21491531/why-airlines-hate-hidden-city-ticketing-and-maybe-you-should-too/

You can't check bags on hidden city trips (your bag will be checked to
final destination). And if you're thinking that you can get by with a
carryon, what if the flight attendant insists there's no more room in
the overhead bins and grabs your bag for gatechecking to that final
destination? Kiss your airfare, or your bag, goodbye.

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Thanks for the replies . I start in BHX to BOS and then return so that is my return ticket that I am shorting so that’s not an issue. It’s also company paid I just don’t want to spend the extra time ( and company money) flying to BHX and then flying out again later that day or early next morning since I am almost there when in Amsterdam. I ( we-wife) will likely not have checked luggage based on answers given. It’s business class so I can get away with quite a bit with carry on ons anyways . Worst case my wife will travel home and collect the checked bag in BHX while I go do business . We generally travel pretty light you just don’t know when you will have extra things so you have to check a bag. It’s also nice not to have to schlep carry- ons if you don’t have to.
Cheers
Mike

Posted by
16186 posts

What you are not realizing is that you bought a round trip ticket BHX-BOS- BHX. Your current flight happens to go through AMS. But the airline could move you to a flight that transfers somewhere else. It doesn't matter as long as the airline gets you to BHX.

What if your return flight is cancelled and they move you to a flight that changes in London? What are you going to do..tell the airline they can't do that because you need to get off in AMS? Do that and they will be happy to charge you for a full fare ticket from BOS to AMS.

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5831 posts

Worst case my wife will travel home and collect the checked bag in BHX while I go do business

If you do this, then make sure you check the bag in under her ticket. The airlines usually offload bags when someone is a no-show.

Posted by
6788 posts

The airlines do not take kindly to what you are contemplating. As pointed out upthread, there can be significant issues with any checked bags (whether checked at the counter, or gate-checked - yes, since you're in business class, you should be able to manage with carry-ons). Note the point above about in whose name the bags need to be checked. Remember, you would be treated as a no-show for that flight you plan to skip. For security, they won't load/will unload any bag you have checked.

There's one other possible wrinkle, although it's probably unlikely. Airlines hate when people do this. They sometimes take punitive action against those they catch. They typically don't take action unless they think someone is repeatedly abusing this, but in those cases they have confiscated all the offenders' frequent flyer miles, and even banned (for life) those who they have caught. Those are extreme measures and if you have an otherwise good record with Delta they probably wouldn't go there, but keep in mind there is a risk that they could make an example of you.

Given that it's company travel (they're paying for it, and they need you in Dusseldorf on short notice) I'd have your company's travel staff work it out, and eliminate any shenanigans you feel inclined to do. Personally, I'd hate to lose my stash of FF miles (and if you're flying in business to/from Europe all the time, you might have a large, valuable stash to consider) so I'd take reasonable measures to protect them.

Just how I'd approach it. Good luck.

Posted by
1078 posts

Guys, my experience in the EU is your bags fly with you-no "you" bags are taken off the plane. As an example, last year on our flight to Porto through Lisbon, we were so walked by PP control as they were having "issues" with management; we got through after almost 2 and a half hours, ran to our connecting flight where they were in the process on unloading our bags as we got to the gate.

Posted by
11841 posts

I concur with David's suggestion to have your corporate travel dept make the needed changes to your ticket. Or if no corporate dept., get the approval from whomever and make the changes yourself. The company was going to have to pay travel expense anyway, now its just from a different point.

Cannot see anyway you could retrieve checked luggage in AMS and the downside risk is way greater than any upside to just doing a 'walk-off' at AMS

Posted by
4066 posts

You are certainly not going to get your bags. As others have said, this is a throw-away ticketing (hidden city) scheme which goes against the contract of carriage to which you agreed when you bought your airline tickets. You will not see your luggage and you could be fined steeply by Delta as a penalty.

Plans change last minute regarding work travel as I'm sure you know already. Not sure why you're even contemplating this scheme as opposed to changing your ticket especially as you could be rerouted to a city that is not Amsterdam.

More reading on this:

https://www.lonelyplanet.com/news/2018/04/08/plane-insider-hidden-city-ticketing/

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If you want to remove a thread that is yours you have the power, shame though as others may learn from it.

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I wish you and your wife luck and happiness in your travels, either to Amsterdam or Birmingham. When she has a few minutes she could explore the Birmingham canals by Gas Street Basin.

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Guys, my experience in the EU is your bags fly with you-no "you" bags are taken off the plane.

As this can take some time in some cases, no showing after a bag is loaded is also a jerk move since is can cause a flight delay, missed connections, etc for 100+ other passengers

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If you want to remove a thread that is yours you have the power, shame
though as others may learn from it.

Yes, I think people can delete their threads. I also think they can turn off notifications of new posts.

Part of the problem sometimes is that a person's question is asked and answered and yet people keep posting. The OP did return and thanked everyone for their reply and there have been bunches more posts after that. I can see where that might get annoying.