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Longing for the “good old days of travel forum”

Remember when the biggest travel worries were how to pack and how to manage cash? I used to get tired of these questions sometimes and now I long for the return to packing light lectures and the next “Am I trying to do too much question?”

It is sad to see so many long awaited and planned for trips cancelled for so many members here. I hope we can work together to help slow the spread of this virus and return to travel sooner rather than later. My best wishes for a safe and healthy next few weeks for us all.

If you get a little tired or lonely as we increase social distancing, don’t forget you can come here and ask travel questions about your next dream trip. There is an end to this in the future, so let’s look forward to traveling then.

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Thanks, Carol! I posted a question yesterday about book recommendations on the history of Poland so I can immerse myself before my planned RS Best of Poland tour in September. Hoping life returns to normal, perhaps, a new normal but one including European travel.

I like Rick’s blog posts of his travel memories, contributing to our armchair travels. If only in spirit for now and the foreseeable future, keep on travelin’!

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Yes Carol, this is a sad time on the forums and other social media platforms. I still have hope for our trip in September but time will tell.

I still continue to research Poland for pre-tour and during tour ideas.

After back and forth delays due to the virus I finally have our apartments reserved for two weeks in Budapest following the Poland tour. We could have visited multiple places during that time but we've really gotten to liking traveling slow and taking our time exploring, so have booked two weeks in Budapest for our first visit there. We're either gonna love it, like it, or neither, but go we will if travel restrictions have been lifted and it is relatively safe.

Once again we have reserved our favorite Amsterdam apt for a two and half week trip to end our adventure. This trip will be totally different than the others, mainly due to so much time spent in NL previously and the change in the museumkaart, although we could work around that mess via our landlord. This time we will do more city wide and country side exploring with less focus on museums. I still plan to go to MOCO as I love Banksy and by-passed that museum on the previous trips.

I've been in contact with ThatDamGuide who we have toured with previously and he has kindly offered some great suggestions for alternative activities and locations of interest.

So, sitting here mostly hunkered down in NE Florida, hoping the best for everyone. Be well!

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Carol,
The history of Poland is fascinating. Caught between Prussia (Germany) and Russia (Soviet Union), it has suffered mightily, including being eliminated as a country and partitioned three times.
Napoleon's second wife was Polish and he had a role in restoring Poland as a country.
Poland was joined with Lithuania in a confederation for 300 years that included what is now Poland, Lithuania, Belarus and half of Ukraine. It fought Mongul invasions as well as others.

King Jon Sobieski of Poland led the Christian forces that included Germans and Poles to defeat the Turks, who had surrounded and besieged Vienna in 1683.
Poles had a huge role in breaking the German codes WWII

I found this on Rick Steves.
Books
Bury Me Standing (Isabel Fonseca, 1996). A literary delve into the world of Eastern European Roma (Gypsies).
Central Europe: Enemies, Neighbors, Friends (Lonnie R. Johnson, 2010). The best historical overview of Eastern Europe.
The Habsburgs: The History of a Dynasty (Benjamin Curtis, 2013). Illuminating portrait of the Austrian imperial family that shaped so much of Eastern European history.
The Haunted Land (Tina Rosenberg, 1996). Dense but thought-provoking work that asks how those who actively supported communist regimes should be treated in the postcommunist age.
History of the Present and The Magic Lantern (Timothy Garton Ash, 2000/1990). Two of several good "eyewitness account" books by Ash that analyze the transition in Central and Eastern Europe from the late 1980s through the 1990s.
Iron Curtain: The Crushing of Eastern Europe 1944–1956 (Anne Applebaum, 2012). Readable account of how the Soviets exerted their influence on the nations they had just liberated from the Nazis. Applebaum's Gulag: A History delves into one particularly odious mechanism they used to intimidate their subjects.
Poland (James A. Michener, 1983). Hefty look into the history of the Poles.
We Are the Romani People (Ian Hancock, 2002). A good textbook-style source of information on the often misunderstood Roma people.
The Year that Changed the World (Michael Meyer, 2009). Intimate chronicle of the exciting events of 1989.
Zlateh the Goat (Isaac Bashevis Singer, 1966). Newbery Honor book telling seven folktales of Jewish Eastern Europe.
Films
Ida (2014). Fascinating religious tale of a young novitiate nun in 1960s Poland, who — just before taking her vows — discovers a terrible family secret.
Karol: A Man Who Became Pope (2005). Polish-Italian biopic made in English about the humble beginnings of St. John Paul II.
Katyń (2007). Oscar-winning director Andrzej Wajda's recreation of the Soviet Army's massacre of around 22,000 Polish officers, enlisted men, and civilians during World War II. Some of Wajda's earlier works include Ashes and Diamonds (1958), The Promised Land (1979), and the two-part series Man of Marble (1977) and Man of Iron (1981).
The Pianist (2002). Roman Polanski's biopic about the struggle for survival of Władysław Szpilman (played by Adrien Brody, in an Oscar-winning role), a Jewish concert pianist in Holocaust-era Warsaw.
Schindler's List (1993). Steven Spielberg's Best Picture–winner about a compassionate German businessman in Kraków who saved his Jewish workers during the Holocaust.
White (1994). The second of Krzysztof Kieslowski's acclaimed, multilingual Three Colors trilogy, set partly in Warsaw and telling a tale of revenge by a Polish man abandoned by his Parisian wife. Kieslowski's other masterpieces include Red (1994), Blue (1993), and The Decalogue (1989) — 10 short films inspired by the Ten Commandments.
Two acclaimed German movies offer excellent insight into the surreal and paranoid days of the Soviet Bloc. The Oscar-winning Lives of Others (2006) chronicles the constant surveillance that the communist regime employed to keep potential dissidents in line. For a funny and nostalgic look at post-communist Europe's fitful transition to capitalism, Good Bye Lenin! (2003) can't be beat.

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I also recommend "Cold War", another film directed by Pawel Pawlikowski ("Ida"). Just an incredible film.

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Packing tip please, do I need 8 pairs of shoes or can I get away with 7 for a 1 week trip to London?

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Allan, if for dressy nights out you can focus on ballet flats, I carry mine at all times in my neck passport wallet:)

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Allan, as long as three of them are waterproof you should be fine. But with that sort of weight you’ll want to be sure you have luggage that will take the beating. I suggest the Briggs&Riley international expandable battery included heavy duty 8 wheeled spinner which they plan to release soon. Rumored list price is $1500 but I think you’ll see a sale given the times, probably get it for $950. Get Kuna ahead of time and exchange them for pound sterling at the currency exchange in the airport, the exchange rates are fabulous right now.

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Carol, I smiled when I saw this thread. Not 30 minutes ago when I was booting up the computer I thought to myself "I miss the arguments about backpacks vs wheelie bags."

I guess I'm not the only one.

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and there was last year’s silly but fun “Atlantis” thread. Maybe you’d get seasick there, but wouldn’t have to be a “social distancer.”

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Oh, gosh, seven days is way too much time in London. You should take the Chunnel to Paris, too! ;)

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Carol - thanks for this

Allan - besides all the shoes ... don't forget at least two "outfits" per day - one for the daytime activities and one for your evening activities. Someone might see you in the same jacket and we can't have that!!!!

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Oh, gosh, seven days is way too much time in London. You should take the Chunnel to Paris, too! ;)

Cannot do that.

Brexit shut the borders, didn't it?

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Excellent post Carol, thank you! I needed this today.

My husband and I were planning a trip to Greece for November of this year, before the pandemic, but now we don’t know. Since I’m at home and just go out for only “the necessary” errands, I decided I’m going to research about Greece. Either that or I’ll go nuts being inside my home.

When you deep clean your house, do your chores, played with your cats, study a new language... planning an imaginary trip is next.

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Fantastic thread- keep’em coming.

As for Lindon- only 2 pair to get you there—-time for a shopping spree at Harrods..

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Carol,

Thanks for posting this. I too miss the "good old days" of the forum, including some of the repetitive and sometimes annoying posts. Even with "social distancing", thankfully we can still maintain contact on the forum.

Hopefully we can all start to return to normal life and dreams of European travel in the not-too-distant future.

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It is just getting to white sneakers time in London. It will be spring at the end of the week and then the white shoes with the gold Nike swoosh come out. That will be my go to shoes for the summer.

But if you are a new traveller to London then yes at least one pair a day +2 pairs of spares +2 pairs of waterproofs plus a pair of bed slippers. You might want something that looks good with your DVT stockings on the flight.

Oh, nearly forgot, I got my shorts on for the first day this year yesterday. Today too. It reached the dizzy heights of 14°C today. That is just under 60 Fahrenheit for you folks still on the old system.

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Thanks for the post Carol. The replies made me smile. :)

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Oh, nearly forgot, I got my shorts on for the first day this year yesterday. Today too. It reached the dizzy heights of 14°C today. That is just under 60 Fahrenheit for you folks still on the old system.

Ah Nigel....you're 'back'! I was beginning to wonder where you'd gone recently and was considering the worst today. Was going to PM you to see if you were still alive.

Great to hear you were back in your shorts, me too! Mowed the lawn in shorts and t-shirt in a balmy 15c. Two weeks of this and I'll be moaning about having to mow the lawn again.

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What?? White sneakers before Easter? My Mom would faint....no white shoes before Easter and after Labor Day. Well, maybe travelers are excepted and perhaps those doing lawn work because you'd have some green on them, right?

I happened to go on Twitter to see if Yellowstone had announced any closures yet (not much is open anyway) and the first thing that came up was the St Paul's Cathedral twitter site. There is a wonderful short clip of kids singing "Lord of all Hopefulness" with a challenge to others to record songs of hope.

https://www.facebook.com/stpaulscathedral/videos/226710398717503/?t=0

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What I know of Polish History is from a series of SciFi Books where the main character, a 20th Century Polish Engineer, gets drunk and ends up in the 1200's in Poland just before the Mongol Invasion. It goes on for more than 5 sequels so I suppose it was quite popular. He goes quite a bit into Polish History of the time but I couldn't say how accurate it was. The first book was: "The cross-time Engineer". The Polish-American author apparently made the character "opposite" himself in being a staunch Catholic and Socialist. His first meeting in ancient Poland is with a Franciscan Friar who is with him on and off through the rest of the series.

A lot like Mark Twain's "Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court" except this time he has the support (or at least not opposition) of the Church which the Yankee didn't have.

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Mowed the lawn in shorts and t-shirt in a balmy 15c. Two weeks of this
and I'll be moaning about having to mow the lawn again.

I usually leave the mower on mulch, but the grass was so high and thick because of the warm and extremely wet winter I filled an entire wheelie bin with the cuttings just from the back garden. Not a very large garden. Had to use wellies, and they are covered in grass clippings. Bah humbug!

No snow this year though.

How’s the chimney?

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Carol thank you for this thread. I haven’t been visiting the forum as much because it just seemed to be all about the virus. I miss the good ol’days too! We just re-scheduled our RS trip to France for the last tour of the year in October. I sure hope we get to go!

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Geraldine, I'm not desperate enough to clean my house, but I suspect that day will arrive.

RobertH, I have a story about Polish Catholics and Socialists.

We knew a doctor in Poland (this was in about 1982 or so) who told us he and a group of other doctors - most of them members of the Communist Party - went to a medical conference in the Soviet Union. At immigration, the official checked their papers and said "Something is wrong. There are 10 people okayed for the conference, but there are 11 people in your group."

Polish Communist Doctor replied: "Oh, that's our priest."

"PRIEST???" asked the border official. "Why are you bringing a priest to a medical conference?"

"Who else are we going to get to say Mass for us?" replied the doctor.

True story.

Edit to add: We knew and worked with a number of members of the Party who were not observant Catholics, but they all had their babies baptized.

I love Poland.

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Carol, you are a gem.. what a lovely thread, made me smile!!

.. trust that one day we can put this behind us and travel again :))

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Here is some more news of hope:
In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, Samaritan's Purse today airlifted a 68-bed Emergency Field Hospital to Milan, Italy—currently the worst affected region in what has now become the epicenter of the outbreak. Our DC-8 left this morning with medical equipment, a specialized respiratory care unit, and 32 disaster relief personnel, including doctors, nurses, and respiratory specialists, who will remain in the country for at least one month.

Nice to see this outreach and support for those in Italy!

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Yes- great thread! I have been do moved by the videos of Italians and Spaniards singing and clapping from their balconies. So many lovely, hopeful moments shining thru.
I have moved Milan and Italy up on my travel list . Have been to Italy several times and wanted to explore further afield but will be looking at what regions I can help with my travel dollars

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It’s amazing how this forum and trip advisor have dried up. I know we all got a bit tired of the same questions especially by those who thought buying an Oyster card was more complex than doing a leveraged buyout corporate takeover!

It’ll be hard in May when I’m not going to Europe. But this too shall pass, even if there’s a massive recession which prevents me from getting to Europe for a year or two.

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How’s the chimney?

It's still there. It's been there for 90 years so I'm sure there's a bit of stability left in it!

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How’s the chimney?

It's still there. It's been there for 90 years so I'm sure there's a bit of stability left in it!

Old habits die hard, it seems

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Diane, yes, we can plan on supporting Italy and other hard hit areas. About 6 months after Katrina I went to new Orleans and did everything I could for the local economy....bought most of my Christmas presents at a few artists boutiques, ate every meal in a restaurant and even had a haircut and of course was a generous tipper

Ah, memories.