Will this make me look like a tourist or just really tick off TSA? http://theawesomer.com/4th-amendment-wear-t-shirt/73413/
It would be obvious you are an American tourist. For $45 it is a bit pricey just to make a statement. I am not going to wear something designed to set off the metal detectors.
That's just silly, everyone knows we got rid of the 4th Amendment with The Patriot Act!
Why hassle the poor TSA screeners? They aren't the ones who make the policy.
Wow, it seems some people have really lost their sense of humor on this board.
Cool! Wish I had the gumption (and the time) to wear it!!!
I think it's funny! Made me laugh.
Some people never had one, Frank. :)
I don't get it? Explain please.
Oops....my apologies to our non-American friends for not explaining. The 4th Amendment is part of the Bill of Rights of the U.S. Constitution that guards against unreasonable searches and seizures without due probable cause. The exact wording is: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
I think it's clever and at least a little funny. I wouldn't wear it because a TSA agent might not find it either and send me for special treatment.
Why not just dress like a drag queen...what can they do about it? Talk about a false sense of security and a monumental waste of money. According to public reports in 2010, the TSA misses up to 70% of all planted guns, bombs, and other weapons in their own internal testing. Yet, 760M airline passengers annually have to deal with having their small children fondled and their 95 year-old disabled grandmother's diaper emptied so we can all "stay safe". Aside from supporting groups like the ACLU, who has the power to fight this crap in court, there's not a lot the average person can do about it. Write a letter? Yeah, to whom? Nobody in elected government cares. It's not right and totally flies in the face of any common sense whatsoever, but you have no choice but to deal with it if you want to fly.
Right on, Michael!
Frankii, I and the rest of the world got that part, and I got the funny part, but I didn't get antagonizing the people that can give you a hard time part. If you don't like a policy run for office and change it, it's your government (by the people for the people). A written letter is much more effective than a T shirt seen only by some power less civle servant. Take the 40 odd bucks and donate it to some action committee. Get active stay active power to the people.
Am I the only one who thinks that the 4th amendment does not apply when it comes to air travel. When you buy your ticket, you are essentially agreeing to these searches, so it is not "unreasonable" because you are in a sense agreeing to it. Otherwise, any and all searches would be considered illegal, including going through metal detectors and having my carry-ons scanned. I was pretty pissed when they took away my almond butter (expensive stuff) when traveling last summer, but I agreed to their rules when I chose (key word here) to travel via air and did not realize that it would be considered a paste, and thus, a banned substance. Was that an unreasonable seizure? No, because I agreed to it by agreeing to travel on a plane. Also, I'm with Peter. Why piss off the guy who has no control over the searches and risk additional (and time consuming) searches. Edit: Did think it was amusing though.
Run, lemmings, run
Maryan, You are not the only one, many people agree with you including our courts.
This t-shirt is meant to be a joke. No one with half a brain would wear it through airport security. Sadly, only a few realized it's a joke. Second, TSA decided without Congress or any court case that I have to give up my constitutional rights to fly. That's not how rules are made in this country. If TSA decides that every time you take any type of transportation, even your own car, which could be a weapon, that you give up your rights to unreasonable search, would that be okay with you? That a police officer, or TSA security person, who is not a law enforcement officer, stop you whenever they feel like it, and search you, because they decided you gave up your rights? TSA is not just operating at airports. They are on public transit in some cities, on Amtrak, at bridges and tunnels...and they want to expand. And I guess that's okay with everyone. What's next? Cavity searches? Background checks? Filling out forms telling TSA where you are going, why and who you are visiting? What organizations you belong to? What political parties? Who you voted for? Perhaps you dont' mind giving up all of your rights in general so TSA can protect you from the bad guys. Guess what....that's what the bad guys wanted. To destroy our freedoms, our way of life, to have us live in fear. Joe McCarthey is probably rolling over in his grave wishing he could have gotten away with all of this nonsense. I suggest you read this op/ed piece by one of our most respected foreign correspondents: http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/07/08/7019081-is-high-security-backfiring-in-us#.Thcovx8xLLg.email
Frank II actually almost 20 years before the TSA came into existence, the 9th Cir agreed that if you wanted to fly you had to voluntarily agree to undergo a screening to makes sure you weren't bring a weapon on board and that screening was not a search as defined by the 4th. The Supremes declined to review the case. We need to balance the need to not have what happened on 9/11 be a daily occurrence with the right to privacy. Cause letting anyone carry what ever they want onto an airplane would render air travel impossible.
They have a right to search for a weapon. I have no problem going through a metal detector or having them search what I'm bringing on board. But if I don't set off the metal detector, and they don't find anything in my luggage, that should be it. That's the way it is at federal buildings, courthouses and even appearances by the President. But how far do we go? I guess, to you, the nude-o-scope and groping is fine. What if they want to start doing cavity searches on whomever they choose? Is that okay with you too? Just to fly? At what point do we say enough is enough? Or is anything okay with you as long as TSA says that's how they decide to interpret the law. I thought only courts were allowed to interpret the law and nude-o-scopes and groping weren't part of the original court case.
Actually Frank, I think they should do less random or everyone searches and do more profiling.
I got it Frank. Very funny. Sometimes we need a little levity on this board.
Wearing this item to the airport could get you a trip to "the room" (cue the sound: snap of latex gloves).
That sound is going to make many of us clinch up with fear, although maybe a free prostate exam from a TSA screener isn't such a bad thing.