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Is our itinerary good to go?

Hello!

My boyfriend and I will be traveling to Europe at the end of July. It would be our first time in Europe, we are both in our mid 20's we are traveling more on a budget. We have 2 weeks to travel and we want to start booking our flights and hotels within Europe. So far we have only purchased our plane ticket from Los Angeles to London. Our main interest is visiting landmarks with an occasional museum. We initially had Amsterdam in our plans but since a friend of ours told us that since we aren't into the "coffee shops" it probably wouldn't be fun for us. So now my boyfriend is doubtful about visiting Amsterdam. If he decides he doesn't want to go to Amsterdam then we have 3 days we can allocate to other cities.

So far this is our itinerary

  • Day 1: Arriving London at noon
  • Day 2: London
  • Day 3: morning train to Pairs
  • Day 4: Paris
  • Day 5: Paris
  • Day 6: morning train to Amsterdam
  • Day 7: Amsterdam
  • Day 8: Amsterdam (we plan to take a day trip to Bruges)
  • Day 9: Morning flight to Prague
  • Day 10: Prague
  • Day 11: Prague (planning a day trip to Dresden)
  • Day 12: Morning flight to Rome
  • Day 13: Rome
  • Day 14: Rome (maybe taking a train to Venice)
  • Day 15: Rome (planning a day trip to Amalfi coast)
  • Day 16: fly back home

Is it doable? if not should we consider dropping some cities to spend more time in others. If so which ones you suggest? Any suggestions and advice is greatly appreciated.

Posted by
4637 posts

Doable it is. Would I do it? No. Italy at the end of July? No way. I am not a masochist. Even if you live in L.A. heat in Italy is more oppressive, more crowds, air-conditioning nothing much. Prague and Paris if you are not lucky could be very hot, too with this global warming. For first timers in Europe you correctly decided for London and Paris. When choosing hotel in Paris be sure it has air-conditioning or you will suffer. With two weeks you have time for one more city. Because of climate in July I would choose Amsterdam. There is more than "coffee shops" there. If you want Prague instead then fly from Paris there. Prague is real eye candy with two medieval neighborhoods and cheap and very good beer. But what I said about Paris is valid for Prague, too. Be sure you have hotel with air-conditioning. Last July I wanted to save and stayed in hotel without air-conditioning. I won't make that mistake again.

Posted by
2533 posts

Way too much. Stick to three cities - London, Paris and Rome. Give each one 3 or 4 full days. The day trips you are proposing from Rome to Venice (3+ hours each way) and Rome to the Amalfi Coast (a few hours each way). You will see the inside of a train and not much more.

Posted by
799 posts

What do you mean by "landmarks?" Like the Eiffel Tower and the Roman Forum?

This is a rather fast-paced trip, but that speed may work for you. But spend some time thinking about what each travel day will be like.

I happen to LOVE Amsterdam, and am not into the Amsterdam version of coffee shops. I would consider the entire city to be a landmark, because I think it's a gorgeous city, but especially the Jordaan neighborhood. And I do love art museums, and they have at least two spectacular museums, the Rijksmuseum and the Van Gogh museum - to me, they're landmarks as well.

You may like some of these cities enough that you end up not taking any day trips, which is ok. Though Bruges, Dresden, the Amalfi Coast and Venice are all wonderful destinations, Bruges takes a bit to get to from Amsterdam, and the Amalfi Coast from Rome would be one very long day, I think. But unless you book train or tour tickets in advance, you can always make the decision about a day trip on the day before.

Keep in mind that it will be warm / hot in some of your destinations, so you may want to take more breaks or move at a slower pace. And August is a month when Europeans typically take their vacations, so some places may be closed, such as restaurants.

Posted by
799 posts

What do you mean by "landmarks?" Like the Eiffel Tower and the Roman Forum?

This is a rather fast-paced trip, but that speed may work for you. But spend some time thinking about what each travel day will be like. Also, you have scheduled all of your time in cities - do you want to spend any time in the countryside?

I happen to LOVE Amsterdam, and am not into the Amsterdam version of coffee shops. I would consider the entire city to be a landmark, because I think it's a gorgeous city, but especially the Jordaan neighborhood. And I do love art museums, and they have at least two spectacular museums, the Rijksmuseum and the Van Gogh museum - to me, they're landmarks as well.

You may like some of these cities enough that you end up not taking any day trips, which is ok. Though Bruges, Dresden, the Amalfi Coast and Venice are all wonderful destinations, Bruges takes a bit to get to from Amsterdam, and the Amalfi Coast from Rome would be one very long day, I think. But unless you book train or tour tickets in advance, you can always make the decision about a day trip on the day before.

Keep in mind that it will be warm / hot in some of your destinations, so you may want to take more breaks or move at a slower pace. And August is a month when Europeans typically take their vacations, so some places may be closed, such as restaurants.

Posted by
3398 posts

If you drop Amsterdam and drop Dresden and add a couple of days to both London and Paris your trip will be much more enjoyable and doable!

Posted by
3392 posts

I don't think your day trips are realistic. Bruges is a 3 hour train ride from Amsterdam. That means 6 hours of your day trip will be spent riding trains. Venice is nearly a 4 hour train ride from Rome, and I believe the Amalfi coast is at least a 2 hour train ride from Rome. Dresden is a 2 hour train ride from Prague. These trips are not impossible, but they won't give you much time for sightseeing.

If your BF is doubtful about Amsterdam, just drop it from your itinerary. I would spend more time in London and Paris (with possible day trips from both places) and pick a third destination that is a 2-3 hour train ride from Paris. Your options are endless. Figure out what you really want to see in Europe and take it from there.

Posted by
14544 posts

When you say you have purchased your plane ticket from LA to London, does that mean you just have a one-way ticket or do you have a round trip from LA ->London ->LA?

If you are planning to fly back to London on another airline that is not part of your Round Trip ticket, you should plan to be back in London the day before your International flight.

For my taste you don't have enough time in London. I would do as someone suggested and do London/Paris/Rome if you can stand the heat or London/Paris/Amsterdam if you think that will be more tolerable weather.

Posted by
4637 posts

Lexma, it looks like you posted two identical posts, maybe you can delete one.

Posted by
2 posts

I have not purchased a return ticket because at the time of purchase we didn't know where would our last stop be nor how much time could be spend in Europe because of our work. We are actually from San Diego (2 hrs south of LA), and will be taking a return flight back home. We purchased our tickets departing from LAX because the difference in price was substantial.

As for landmarks what I mean is things like the eiffel tower, big ben the colosseum, the astronomical clock in prague, iconic buildings, monuments and stuff.

I talk to my boyfriend and we decided to drop the day trips to bruges and venice. Instead add one day to London, and another day to Prague. My question is with only a day a half in Amsterdam is it possible to visit the Van Gogh museum, the Rijksmuseum, and the Jordaan?

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11613 posts

Since you bought a one-way ticket, you should be able to cancel it and start over. A round trip ticket will cost far less than twice what you paid one-way, either out of the same city or from another (open jaw or multi-city). For example, I just checked one-way Detroit to Rome at over $3000, but round trip Detroit to Rome was less than $1500.

Posted by
7175 posts

I would stick to the trains, and see more of London and Italy.
Something like this gives you a fast paced first time 'taste' of Europe.

Day 1: Arrive in London
Day 2: London
Day 3: London
Day 4: Train to Paris
Day 5: Paris
Day 6: Paris
Day 7: Train to Interlaken
Day 8: Swiss Alps
Day 9: Train to Venice
Day 10: Venice
Day 11: Train to Florence
Day 12: Florence
Day 13: Train to Rome
Day 14: Rome
Day 15: Rome
Day 16: Fly back home

Posted by
3392 posts

It will be easy to visit the Van Gogh museum, the Rijksmuseum, and the Jordaan with a day and a half in Amsterdam. You could even do it in a day. If you want to visit the Anne Frank house in the Jordaan neighborhood, I would suggest booking ahead.

Posted by
6713 posts

Emma makes a key point above -- moving around costs money as well as eating precious time. This may be your first trip to Europe but hopefully it won't be your last. All your destinations are fine places, worth more time than you can give them. My suggestion would be to pick two or three, plunk down in each one for a few days, or even a week, explore it and maybe do some short day trips.

If this were my first trip I'd pick London and Paris, and maybe Rome. That's a very "conventional" first-time itinerary, but for good reasons. Your preferences may be different of course. But, even without Dresden or Venice, you'll be spending a lot of time dealing with airports and trains and train stations, and a lot of money on those fares, instead of getting acquainted to Europe.

Read "Europe Through the Back Door" for excellent advice about "how" to do a trip like this. And remember the key advice: "Assume you will return." That's good advice even for us older travelers, especially so for you younger folks.

And FWIW, if Amsterdam is still a candidate, I'd agree that there's much more to it than the "coffee shops." If you do go, try to make time for a canal boat ride as well as the museums and Jordaan area.