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How much to budget for 60 day trip

My wife and I are planning on doing a EURORAIL trip in 2017. We want to visit small villages and towns. Not a lot of big cities. What should we expect to pay on average for food per day and lodging per day. Thank you

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This would be pretty variable. What countries do you plan to go to? Are you going to stay in a few places for a longer period, or move around frequently? Are you going In high season or a less busy time. Do you plan to eat out every meal, or get accomodations with a kitchen and do some cooking and picnicking? Are you wanting budget places or are your standards such that you what higher end hotels? Probably need to nail down a little bit more of what your trip might look like to answer these questions.

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Sorry. We will be going from mid April through June. Starting out in Portugal , Spain and France in spring and heading north through the Alp countries ending up in Netherlands. We would like to stay 3-5 days in each area. We are pretty well just touring and stopping if we see somewhere we like.

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For budgeting purposes, how about:
$200 per night lodging for two
$150 per day food
X 60 days = $21,000
Can be done for less ... Or more. Spain/Portugal can be less expensive; Switzerland, even smaller towns, can be much more.
You say "EURORAIL" -- do you plan to get a 60-day Eurail pass, or do you mean you plan to take trains most of the time? That's another cost that can vary.

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Recent reports from folks who've been to Switzerland are scary. I wouldn't begin to guess about hotel and meal costs there other than "very high".

Meals: With bottled water (no alcohol, coffee or soft drinks), my once-a-day sit-down meals in non-touristy Italian restaurants were mostly in the 25-30 euro range last summer. France might run a bit higher. Food in Spain (outside Barcelona, Madrid and the Basque Country), eastern Germany and the Balkans did not approach the quality of what I found in Italy and was less expensive, averaging perhaps 20 euros for a restaurant meal. These were casual restaurants but not just cafes. I look for the sort of places where a local middle-class person might eat an ordinary, not special-celebration meal. You can pay far more if you want a special meal. There is useful information in guidebooks.

I can usually keep the rest of the day's food cost to about 15 euros or so by grabbing sandwiches from bakeries or putting together a meal from markets, delis and the like. Tapas-hopping in Spain will cost more. Small towns may have fewer options for interesting food to go. People will tell you to look for hotels that include breakfast, but you are paying for that breakfast one way or another. I opt out of the hotel breakfast whenever I can.

Train costs can be found on the website of each country's rail system. Germany has some really good deals worth researching (or ask here). If you don't plan to buy well in advance, check prices for next week so you see full costs. You can save a lot by buying non-refundable tickets way in advance for fast and long-distance trains. Buses are often less expensive than trains if you aren't buying far in advance. Trips between small towns that are rather close together are often very inexpensive (under 10 euros).

Edited to add: The sort of trip you are describing (many countries, a few days in each area), could lead to very high transportation costs. I'd research the cost of the long travel legs ASAP.

Hotels will be a very large part of your costs, and there's huge variation there, even within countries. The average American tourist probably pays two or three times what I pay for hotels, because they want something nicely decorated, not really small, etc. Only you can decide what is important to you and how much you are willing to pay for it.

So research some (or all) of the places on your planned-destination list. Go to booking.com or your hotel website of choice and plug in appropriate dates for the town or city. Use filters as much as possible so your list only includes suitable places. If you're on a budget, screen by price so you're not bothered with the high-cost places. What price range are you seeing? (Prices may be shown for all the nights of your stay, not per night.) Scan some listings to be sure you've found actual hotel rooms with bath rather than dormitory beds or rooms with bath-down-the-hall. Look at a map view to eliminate options that are not centrally located if that matters to you.

Now you have a ballpark figure for what you'd pay if you reserved now. If you don't plan to book hotels until shortly before, or during, your trip, you will likely pay more, because the bargains will have been snapped up. A 20% to 25% fudge factor might be about right.

You'll likely land somewhere during a special event with higher costs, so definitely allow for an occasional destination that is much more costly than your research suggests it will be. In Spain, Saturday night seems to be a "special event" in some cities, and my overnight costs more than doubled then in Toledo and Salamanca. Fortunately, Saturday only happens once a week.

I solve the problem of "things might be a lot more expensive than expected" by staying in the least costly places I can find that meet my basic needs. That provides a nice cushion for the painful surprises when they do occur.

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we are planning on going in April 2017 as well. We will come home the first week of June. To save on hotel costs which I haven't seen for a lot less than $125 US per night for a $ or $$ hotel, we will be using Airbnb. I have seen some awesome places in all areas that we will be staying and the nightly cost can be under $60 (my budget). We are Airbnb hosts in Wenatchee, WA and love the interaction with our guests, so we look forward to experiencing the "guest" side of Airbnb. That can save you a lot on your budget. Also, for meals, we are taking our own eating utinsils and plan to do market shopping for our meals. We will take RS advise and plan on visiting some local bars that offer the free appetizers during certain times. We willalso splurge on a restaurant or two. We tend to eat appetizer style anyway, so sometimes a restaurant isn't our best option. Crackers, cheese, meats and fruit with wine/beer are always a good choice for us. We just picnic a lot. We don't have a problem doing this in a town square, on a hillside in the country or while driving (substituting the wine/beer for water!) We don't plan on doing a lot of museums, but will allow for one or two here or there. Hope you have a good trip and maybe our paths will cross!

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By choosing a combination of major cities and smaller cities/towns, an 89-day trip for me averages €100/day. I do choose hotels or B&Bs that include breakfast, mostly for proximity to coffee. I use public transportation.

Lodging costs vary the most for me. I found a very nice hotel in Roma for €75/night, near the Colosseum; but that still raises the total daily expenses to closer to €130. A B&B in Matera for €50 balances that out.

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We would like to thank everyone very much for their input. It has been very informative. It's very close to what we figured.

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we are planning on going in April 2017 as well. We will come home the first week of June. To save on hotel costs which I haven't seen for a lot less than $125 US per night for a $ or $$ hotel, we will be using Airbnb. I have seen some awesome places in all areas that we will be staying and the nightly cost can be under $60 (my budget). We are Airbnb hosts in Wenatchee, WA and love the interaction with our guests, so we look forward to experiencing the "guest" side of Airbnb. That can save you a lot on your budget. Also, for meals, we are taking our own eating utinsils and plan to do market shopping for our meals. We will take RS advise and plan on visiting some local bars that offer the free appetizers during certain times. We willalso splurge on a restaurant or two. We tend to eat appetizer style anyway, so sometimes a restaurant isn't our best option. Crackers, cheese, meats and fruit with wine/beer are always a good choice for us. We just picnic a lot. We don't have a problem doing this in a town square, on a hillside in the country or while driving (substituting the wine/beer for water!) We don't plan on doing a lot of museums, but will allow for one or two here or there. Hope you have a good trip and maybe our paths will cross!

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I think a bare minimum, at a comfortable standard above backpacking/hosteling, would be ...
Accomm - 100€ between you
Meals - 50€ each
Total - 12,000€ over 60 days
Of course you will need to add on local transport and admission charges, as well as any seat reservation charges for the Eurail.

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Our experience is similar to that of Laura B. We find that we average between $150 and $180 per person, per day. That's an amount suggested by RS several years ago. It does not include round trip airfare from the US to Europe. The variation is for all the reasons already stated.

For us, it includes everything else while there as well as expenses at home while we're gone, like boarding the dog, airport parking or transfers, and special mail holds if we're gone longer than 30 days.

This average has been consistent over 6 trips to 10+ countries from 2009 to the present. Lodging is usually the biggest component, with food a close second. We don't sleep or eat fancy or cheap, but it still adds up.

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I am planning an 80 - 90 day trip currently. My budget for two is at $140/day for meals and $175/night for lodging. Quite often we end up splitting meals - 2 appy, a salad, 1 main & 1 dessert - otherwise it is just too much food and half is thrown away.

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Also, particularly in small towns, don't automatically rule out the "bathroom down the hall" hotels which are sometimes much more interesting, family-run places -- and because of all the people insisting on en-suite bathrooms, you may NOT be sharing with that many others. Guess it may depend on whether your memories of dorm living are positive or not.

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"...a 80-90 day trip..." Prima! What a trip! If I had that time spread, I would be all over ranging from England to Budapest and Lithuania, using all the options for zig zag traveling, a rail Pass, flying discount carriers, taking night trains, ferries, buses.

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"...a 80-90 day trip..." Prima! What a trip! If I had that time spread, I would be all over ranging from England to Budapest and Lithuania, using all the options for zig zag traveling, a rail Pass, flying discount carriers, taking night trains, ferries, buses.

Me too!!!! It is so hard to reign it in a little on this trip but with the cat we will need to slow down our normal breakneck pace! But we will be covering a lot of area!

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Southern Europe is far cheaper than Switzerland and even France and Germany.

I suggest you map out your trip and check for reasonable Band Bs or hotels for pricing. Plan on $100 per day minimum for food.
You will have costs for admission to sites and museums as well. Transportation costs are each to check with rail.

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True about reigning in the various places geographically with a 90 day spread, such as is going out to the Masurian Lakes worth the time or spending an extra day to rest in Warsaw, or spending another day in Brno and Slavkov seeing the Napoleonic battle monuments or taking off to Bratislava...depends on one setting the priorities, more so since the cat is on this trip.

If you do a day's trip to Bratislava, see the chateau/Schloss. You might see where the Peace of Pressburg was signed between the Austrian Emperor and Napoleon.