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Hill Hill Hill Hill

I initially found this story posted on Facebook about Torpenhow Hill in England. In summary:

When the Saxons arrived and asked the Welsh the name of that hill the
Welsh said “pen” which means “hill” in Welsh. So the Saxons used
their word for hill, “tor”, and called it Torpen (hill hill). Then the
Norse arrived and the same process added their word for the hill
“haugr”. So now it was Torpen Haugr (hill hill hill). Later the
English called it Torpenhow Hill (hill hill hill hill).

Since it was on Facebook, I had to wonder if it was true, and I found this YouTube video debunking it;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUyXiiIGDTo It’s 4 minutes long and not required watching for the purpose of this post, but I thought it was interesting. In any case, when I’m in tourist mode it’s sometimes the useless trivia; fact or fiction that can capture my attention and make for a good story. Another that comes to mind is the balcony in Verona, Italy that has become legendary as the balcony from Romeo and Juliet.

Just to amuse me on a slow Monday, I’m wondering if anyone else can share a place named twice or more, or even a place that is famous despite no shred of truth?

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I have some Anglo Ancestors named Polhill. They lived near what became Pilgrims Way in SE England. I had some inkling that they used their Hill as a Cemetery; the Pol meaning Pole or Marker. Later, the Polhill Family ran an Inn on the Pilgrim Way, and Provisioned Abbeys and Palaces from Gardens they planted on land in this area. In Modern Times, the Polhill Family runs Nurseries in England and Australia.

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Well, laughing about "famous" names....one closer to home or actually "home".

I live in Coeur d'Alene. Twice in the fall, once with a good friend, another with a program participant on a Road Scholar tour, we were talking about etiology of the place name. Both thought Coeur d'Alene was so romantic....some French trapper named it after his sweetheart "Alene". Well, no. It is a French trapper name but they found the local Native Americans very "sharp" traders and said they had the heart of an awl (that sharp punch tool that goes thru leather - an alêne).

Not near as romantic as sweet Alene who's trapper boyfriend is going around naming things after her.

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@Pam

I thought you were going to mention Walla Walla aka the place so nice they named it twice

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Mark! Laughing...yes! Or Walla² or W²

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In the German I know, a Tor is a gate, a hill is a Berg.

But then dialect are often different from Schriftdeutsch.

Isartor in Munich is the old city gate by the Isar river. Nürnberg was named for the castle (burg) with was on a hill.

Baden Baden is the town of Baden in the Grand Duchy (Großherzogtum) of Baden. Kind of like New York, New York.

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And when you go to Los Angeles, be sure to visit the The Tar Tar Pits. (no typos in that sentence)

In the southwest, there are green green trees and blue green trees.

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The La (the) Brea (tar) . . . . .

Green and blue palos verdes

😂😂

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In baseball we have The Angels Angels (Los Angeles Angels).

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Afternoon from Australia

Where I recently lived in Murwillumbah ( about 30kms south of my new home - Tweed Heads )

there are two lovely little villages ( Doon Doon & Dum Dum )

Regards