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Fall itinerary HELP

I am trying to pick between the below itineraries and would like some advice. I know the schedules below are crazy busy but this is how I like to travel.

Day 1-3 Krakow
Day 4 Bratislava
Day 5 Salzburg
Day 6-7 Bern
Day 8-9 Lyon
Day 10 Barcelona (been here before)
Day 11-12 Seville
Day 12-14 Granada

Day 1-3 Krakow
Day 4 Salzburg
Day 5-6 Bern
Day 7-8 Lyon
Day 9 Barcelona (been here before)
Day 10-11 Seville
Day 12 Cordoba
Day 13-14 Granada

Day 1-3 Krakow
Day 4-5 Bern
Day 6-7 Lyon
Day 8 Mont Saint Michael
Day 9 Paris (been here before)
Day 10 Malaga
Day 11-12 Seville
Day 13-14 Granada

Posted by
8339 posts

You really should go onto Google Maps and see how far it is between each city you're wanting to visit. The times it takes to travel from city to city by rail are listed. Let me just say it would be virtually impossible to follow such an itinerary, and your trip would be one big blur.
You would do best to stick to one region on your trip traveling in a straight line to cities that are not that far apart. We try to limit travel times to 4 hours or less and visit 2-3 cities on a trip. And with budget European air carriers, we're not beyond flying to the other end of Europe for 2-3 days and catching a flight home there.

Hi,

I do agree with David. I think you might lose too much time travelling. Will you go by air or are you renting a car, or even by train?
I am also a crazy traveller, but my suggestion would be to maybe eliminate 2 places and make it less rush rush....

Posted by
11959 posts

hlindsey6 : "Scotty, reading for beaming..."

Scotty : "Energizing....."

Works for any of the three choices.

Live long and prosper.

Posted by
3098 posts

Absolutely none of the three. Extremely unrealistic and painfully not meaningful to me. You will have nothing from one of those trips. Save the money and time.

Posted by
2572 posts

My recommendation is to pick either the first three cities, or last three cities on your list. Then spread this out over the 14 days. If you have already bought airfare into Krakow and out of Granada, pick one of the other cities to visit. Otherwise you spend all your time getting from one place to another, just to sleep and do it all again the next day. There’s more to travel than just saying you’ve “been there.” Slow down and BE there.

Posted by
7312 posts

Travel times between the places you've listed are too long for any of these itineraries to be doable. Krakow to Salzburg is complicated, Lyon to Mt St Michel takes a day, so does Salzburg to Bern, and Bern to Lyon, Lyon to Barcelona and Barcelona to Sevilla take half a day every time.
Also, why Bern, why Bratislava, why Málaga? Tell us what draws you to the places you've listed, and we'll help you to narrow it down to something still busy (since you like it), but realistically so.

Posted by
15794 posts

Look at train schedules on bahn.com and see what's reasonable for you. Some of your proposed legs are best by plane. Look at the wiki page for either airport and you can find all the airlines that fly that route in the "passenger" table.

Bluntly, it's too much to ask of us volunteers to do that research for you.

Posted by
613 posts

Bern, Lyon, Malaga, and Bratislava are nothing burgers.

If you have never been, dump all of them and go to Alsace.

Posted by
8341 posts

There was a movie back in the 70s, I think about Americans touring Europe.

The name of the movie was "If it's Tuesday this must be Belgium."

You have WAY too much travel for your trip.
You have some second tier places on your lists, for example: Bern, Lyon, Malaga, Bratislava.

These are nice places but don't compare to other places in Europe.
Further, you have scheduled one night in places that are a considerable distance from your last city and next city. You won't see much in Malaga (which really is a third tier city as well) coming from Paris and then going to Seville.

Why are you trying to visit Poland, Slovakia, Austria,Switzerland, France and Spain in one two week trip.
You can't see the major cities in Spain in two weeks, so slow down and pare down your list.
Mont Saint Michael is great if you go to Normandy and visit Bayeux (see the 900 year old Tapestry), Normandy Beaches from WWII, etc, but a one nighter from Lyon?!

Krakow is great, loved it, but we did an 8 day bus tour of Poland.
Pick two or three countries with no more than four cities and enjoy your trip.

Posted by
4630 posts

I did a Tuesday Belgium tour once and enjoyed it, but the one night stop cities were in adjacent countries and someone else was responsible for getting us between them and surprisingly wasn't even worn out( I was 35) Some of the location changes on the OP's itinerary would only be doable if someone drove all night and even the big bus tours don't do that. As someone else said, only doable if you have the Star Trek transporter.