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Diet and Exercise

Now that Mary and I are well into our 60s, we've found that diet and exercise are ever more important toward the quality of our travels, (and, actually, life in general). And imo what you eat is most of it, in that you can't out-exercise a bad diet. How you fuel your body is oh so crucial. For example, if you put low-quality fuel into your car, it's going to be sluggish and not run well. Not a perfect analogy, but I hope you get my point.

So what to do? Perhaps the best way to maximize the enjoyment of one's travels is to get in the best physical shape possible for you. No, you don't have to train for a marathon, but extending your walks a bit, stretching, balance training like standing on one foot for at least 30 seconds, and some light weights can do absolute wonders for the quality of your travel.

It's telling that little things like putting luggage in an overhead compartment, keeping your balance while walking down the aisle, stooping down to pick something up, being stiff and inflexible, and overall stamina become increasingly a bigger deal as we age. Yet, we can do something about it. We don't necessarily have to become victims in this regard.

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Agreed! On all counts. Our lifestyle changed so much when we moved to Rome: all walking, public trans, healthier and fresher food. We lost weight, got more fit. We had a hard time returning to retirement life in the US and maintaining but did get on top of it and now we try to keep the balance all year with walking, hiking, healthy eating. We ramp it up a bit before a trip especially to get some hill walking in before we go to the mountains as we live in a flat valley area. Restaurant fatigue sets in quickly when we travel so having the opportunity for long stays and preparing simple meals while traveling helps the budget and healthy-ish eating.

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Oh my, I didn’t feel lectured to at all, and I quite agree with Mike. I’m now 74 and staying in reasonable ‘travel shape’ is very important. One thing to consider is you climb a lot of stairs when you travel and in my daily life in Texas I can go weeks without confronting a flight of stairs. There’s a reason you don’t see as many overweight folks in Europe, they walk and climb stairs so much more than we do in our car based lifestyle.

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I sincerely apologize if anyone feels like I'm lecturing them.

I was hoping to solicit opinions and ideas from others as to how they navigate this issue, and perhaps tips on improving the quality of travel. Certainly, health is a significant factor in quality of life and travel, but is often overlooked.

When you feel better, travel is more enjoyable. That's what I'm getting at.

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Laurel, I know what you mean about restaurant fatigue while traveling. Also, seems like a great idea ramping up your workouts a bit before traveling. Use it or lose it is... true.

Lyndash, yes, we also take the stairs whenever possible, and time permitting we walk instead of the tram at airports.

The question I ask of myself is, what do I want to be able to do when I'm 80? Walk two miles along the Seine? Hike two miles in the Alps? If so, then I have to do much more than that now, because what is easy at 63 will be much harder at 83.

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When we were in Europe, we usually had the hotel breakfast and many times just skipped lunch - sometimes an afternoon gelato or small package of nuts, and then a reasonable-sized dinner. So overall, we were eating less plus walking much more. Portion control is a simple help I can do at home. Plus, one of my doctors once told me that I have control of all of the food choices that come into our home. : )

When I’m traveling solo, many times I just pick up something healthy & light from the grocery store for lunch or dinner or may skip dinner occasionally.

I’m already considering how I can exercise more this winter in our snowy region and be ready for the trip to Spain early next year. I do have a flight of stairs in my home.

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When one of our middle-aged sons came to visit recently, he admitted that it took him a few days to get up to speed with the amount of walking we do where we live in France. When he went back to the States, he bought an indoor bike for when he watches his beloved sports on TV. He found that even with his gym visits, he wasn't used to the amount of energy we put out daily.

That said, since we're a decade further along than you are, Big Mike, we alternate walking and yoga every morning. If we stop either, we immediately feel the effects. We're going to Switzerland in two days. We'll be looking for the lateral hikes rather ones with significant elevation gain.

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I agree with you Mike! For this last trip to Switzerland and Amsterdam, I thought I had done enough to be in shape. Nope, at 72 I obviously should have done more steps, stairs and bike time. And it’s quite an eye opener when you see the older people in Switzerland hoofing it up a path as I struggled to catch my breath (and that was lower elevation). And as far as eating, I learned to stick to the morning yogurt, juice and whole grain bread and forego those wonderful croissants (maybe just a couple).

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Margie, reminds me of rural Germany where "old" people were walking and riding their bikes everywhere. As you know most Americans drive their cars a quarter mile to pick up a loaf of bread.

This may seem trite, but we recently saw a 74-year-old Bruce Springsteen in concert. He went nonstop for 3-plus hours and was drenched in sweat. I was in awe. So I looked into his diet and exercise regimen and it's nothing that special beyond walking on the treadmill, eating quite healthy, and lifting weights "just to keep my muscles toned." Amusingly, I also wondered how he went that long without a toilet break as he was chugging water during the rowdy show.

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Elizabeth formerly Bets, yes, it's not that hard to stay in shape as we age, but if we're sidelined with an illness or injury, it does seem our conditioning quickly evaporated relative to our younger years, and it takes longer to get back into shape. And to reiterate what you said, one doesn't have to train like an Olympian to be in decent condition.

As for the hikes, well, I've found it harder going down than up, at least on my knees.

Jean, your story reminds me of what we do, too. It was great walking a lot in London and Paris, and then being able to eat a full plate of spaghetti, or split a large pizza for dinner, and not gaining a pound.

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Were a bit further down the turnpike of life in our mid to late 70s,but we walk about four miles a day to stay in shape for our travels. My husband tells everyone that we walk today so we can walk tomorrow. Were hoping to keep traveling for at least another ten years. I'm only five feet tall and have never been able to put my carry on in the above seat bin, but my husband is six feet tall so he does it easily. We have a son who is 47 years old and has downs syndrome. Seeing other countries through his eyes has always made traveling really cool. He says he's in it for the beer. Keep on traveling!

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Ok. I'm getting off my phone and getting on the treadmill right now. (My trip is in 6 weeks!)

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I'm going to be a nuisance and add one more thing to everyone's pre-trip training regime. Planks. I know. I hate them. But having a strong core is essential. I started 2 years ago when I turned 61. So it's never too late.

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Alas living in LA one depends on their gas gussler….however, doesn’t mean I don’t walk to my Trader Joe’s ( 10 blocks rdtrip ) for sustenance. Luckily my bank is next door so if I need rolls of quarters or cash it’s one stop shopping.

The hiking trails of nearby Griffith Park up to the Griffith Observatory stretch the calves and hammies while providing a lovely POV of Megalopolis. Especially lovely for a pre dawn then watch the sunrise sojourn.

Truman was in office when I was born. These neighborhood jaunts keep me relatively fit … so does the reality that while I’m in London ( go every year) I walk, stroll, amble and enjoy a late lunch/early dinner around 3pm. As I travel in November it starts getting dark by then so my pub/cafe stops are a pleasant sit down. Relaxes muscles, soothes feet and makes me happy. GREAT parks in London to explore on foot.

Gotta say decades ago was in a horrific traffic accident where I wound up in the backseat of my Kharman Ghia …. kharman Ghias don’t have back seats so even though I don’t recall the accident I know I’m lucky to be alive, walking and talking without pain or strain.

So IMHO getting out to walk helps a human physically, mentally and emotionally.

EDIT: just adding the apartment management company is unintentionally adding to my physicality by not repairing my buildings elevator. 1932 built so I guess elevator parts are difficult to find….and because in 30 plus years of living in LA I’ve not drunk the water….I got my morning exercise by lugging a bag of groceries and a gallon of Crystal Geyser water up the 2 flight of stairs. 34 steps.

EDIT 2: I’d take the gun and shoot whomever insisted I do planks….. or maybe I’d only whack their skulls with the 5 lb weights I lift daily.

EDIT 3: Like panty hose, tabasco sauce, and heavy metal music, planks are Communist plots!!!

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Oh Claudia, I remember Kharman Ghias! I lusted after those little cars. (I am also a Truman baby.) Those were so cool. Thank goodness you didn’t pay the price for how small they were.

More and more studies come out saying how good walking is for us. I’m a believer. But have to say someone would have to come to my house with a gun to make me do planks. (Smile) I hate those!! Yeah I know, I know….

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I’ll add that since we moved to the center of a city in France, my blood test results have improved every year. Before leaving the US, my MD wanted me to start cholesterol and bone density medicine. Both have improved.without the drugs. It’s the daily walking to run errands.

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Over this last winter I pulled out an old rebounder (mini trampoline) I had that was about 15 years old. I been working on that 4 days a week or so since November, adding in walking outside when the weather is nice. I was surprised at how well the fitness translated because when I went on my usual Yellowstone trip in June I was able to walk my 5-8 miles per day in the Upper Geyser Basin without even feeling stiff. Since I was driving over to the park, I also took my yoga mat with me and did a 10 minute workout I'd downloaded (weak WIFI in the park) every AM.

I've just had a birthday, turned 75, and for that event bought myself a new Jumpsport 350 Pro rebounder that is a much easier bounce than my old Needak spring rebounder. It is awesome. Rebounding covers balance and strengthening as well as cardio and core stability. I can get my heart rate up much better for HIIT training on the rebounder than walking where I always feel like I'm going to fall if I try to walk too fast.

I'll start to add in some time on the BOSU (Both Sides Up - basically a half an exercise ball on a platform the you can work on either side up) for specific balance exercises although with the rebounder I may be covered for cobblestone walking, lol.

I will focus on walking some distances before I leave in October. I like to have solid 5-6 milers under my belt before I go to Paris or on a tour. I hike about once a week with my brother although last time we went I fell and bruised my leg up so have been off that for 2 weeks.

I have a large yoga towel (got in Paris at that cute store Pylones) I may take with me next trip. Don't tell Jean but it's 1/2 pound. I don't like to sit on the hotel floors or touch the floor with my hands so that will enable me to continue my yoga practice. I have yoga slippers I use both for yoga and as my "in the hotel room" foot covering.

Another thing I've been doing is that I signed up for an app with a 15 minute strength workout and 15 minute stretch workout 5 days a week. I think I can continue to do them when I travel as they don't use equipment other than a band and a yoga strap. Yes, I'll weigh them and decide. I do feel like I've gained strength in just 3 weeks of doing them. He does try to hit upper body, lower body and core every week.

Food-wise, I'm vegan but the last few trips I found it easier to add fish in when I travel. I do drink more alcohol on trips than I drink the rest of the year combined, lol!

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Big Mike, I agree on it being hard to regain fitness after an inactive period due to hospital, etc. I recently was hit by a car when I was out walking. I ended up with a fracture in both ankles and several fractures in my pelvis. It is now 4 months and I am just getting back to my normal 10 miles of walking and 30 floors of stairs. In 1 1/2 months I plan on being on a 4 week trip to Europe that has considerable walking. Oh, by the way I am 82.

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Oh my word, Bob! Awesome work and yea to your excellent healing progress.

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As for the hikes, well, I've found it harder going down than up, at least on my knees.

Too true! Hiking sticks are imperative, and careful selection of routes.

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Well, I'm 79 and routinely walk 2 miles in 30 minutes to get my heart rate up. I thought I was doing quite well until I read some of these replies! I live two flights up and use the stairs unless it's an emergency (more than three bags of groceries). On trips, I will often walk 8 miles in a day as long as it's not a forced march (i.e., sightseeing and dining along the way).

I was born a couple of months before Truman took office and was also in an accident in my Karmann Ghia!

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Janet, seems to me you're doing great. I'd bet you're within the top 1-2 percent of your age group walking two miles at all, let alone 30 minutes. You're an inspiration.

Pam, you have all of the bases covered. Does your routine include balancing exercises? All I do now is stand on one foot for 60 seconds. And heck, it's OK to splurge on a cheat meal or a few extra drinks once in awhile. It's what you do 90 percent of the time that matters.

Laurel, yes, hiking poles are on my list.

Bob, that's just amazing you bounced back like that. You're my role model for where I'd like to be at 82. You're in better shape than most people 40 years younger. How do I know? A simple glance around Wal Mart on a Saturday afternoon.

Trotter, agree about planks. I can do a standard plank for 2 minutes and I'm at my limit. I have to remain on the floor for a few seconds afterwards to recover.

Claudia, imho there is no pill that is as effective as the exercise you are doing, and even a spiritual aspect to the sunrise (or sunset). I suspect most of us workout in some way for our mental health as much as physical. Well said.

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How do those of you that walk daily at home manage to maintain your weight when you are on vacation? I average 13,500 steps a day, so I gain weight when we travel. I blame it on the breakfasts (not the drinks;);)).

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Pam, you have all of the bases covered. Does your routine include balancing exercises? All I do now is stand on one foot for 60 seconds.

Yes, balance is included on the rebounder. I do some moving balance on the BOSU. I read this article a few months ago and was interested in the paragraph where they mentioned this:

falls don’t usually happen when you are standing still or in a steady state or pose, but rather when you are moving, transitioning, or adjusting. The key to building balance, coordination, and preventing injury from falling as we age is in mastering transitions and developing power.

https://www.yogajournal.com/practice/yoga-sequences/fall-yoga-15-poses-proven-build-better-balance/

It’s pretty easy to add some of the moving poses into daily routines.

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What a great topic! Did some delete a comment early on? I don’t see anyone complaining about “lecturing”. This is very important advice, not a lecture.

Twenty years ago, in my late 50’s, I read a book called “Younger Next Year” while I was working out on my home elliptical trainer. I highly recommend it.

https://www.amazon.com/Younger-Next-Year-Strong-Smart-Until-dp-1523507926/dp/1523507926/ref=dp_ob_title_bk

My husband and I are avid hikers. I discovered my love for hiking when I was 18 or so, and have stayed with it throughout my life. When I met my husband 22 years ago, he was fit from swimming and rowing and running, but hadn’t done much hiking. We started hiking together when we were dating and have kept with it. We travel to hike—in the Alps, the Dolomites, in Patagonia, New Zealand, you name it. My motto is, “if you keep on doing it, you can keep on doing it.” (Assuming, that is, you do not become injured or seriously ill). Of course, we have cut back a bit; we now consider 10-12 miles a good hike; 14 miles is a bit much. But we can still climb or descend 2500-3000 feet (with poles to help on the downhill). My husband is 80 and I am 77. We know that we are fortunate to be able to continue this.

To stay in shape for our hiking, we both work out daily at home, and do an online yoga class 1-2 times a week. I go to a dance-based fitness class for seniors at the local community center; I enjoy the music and the social aspect. My husband likes to take a long swim in a nearby lake (he doesn’t mind cold water).

We tend to eat healthy—-breakfast is the same every day: oatmeal for me, raisin bran for him. Lunch while we are hiking might be soup or salad at a mountain hut, or maybe some peanuts and an orange from my backpack. We do like to enjoy a nice dinner, but not a huge one. We rarely have dessert. But we both enjoy a good rare burger now and then. I generally lose weight when we travel, in part because I have to be careful with gluten and lactose. No more daily gelato for me.

If you need inspiration, pick up a copy of that book—-I’ll bet Amazon has used ones. And find some time in your day to exercise—-walk, swim, ride a bike, climb stairs, buy a treadmill or elliptical trainer—-whatever it takes to get yourself moving. Just do it!

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No doubt I walk, some days more , others less. In Jan 2018 the doc told me to lose 20 lbs.

I thought that was impossible. I ended up losing 30 and have kept it off ever since, ie, no desserts here or in Europe, no soft drinks , no gelato, no beer, pasta, pizza, etc, etc ...lay off all these things. At 74 I still am able to travel much in the same style as then, whenever " then" is, but I use a smaller spinner and lighten the load on the carry-on in the multi-week trips of 9 and 11 weeks, post-pandemic. A lot things one carries on a summer multi-week trip turn out not to be necessary. Yes, exercise and diet are key.

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I have enjoyed this thread.

My husband and I started traveling to Europe again in our late 50s when our last child was in college. We had made several trips in our twenties, always thinking we would return when our three kids were grown.

At the time, we were thinking we would be able to travel until we were about 70. But reading this forum and the adventures of many well over 70 has encouraged me to think that our travel days could be longer.

This thread has been humbling. I would consider myself quite active but I don’t do nearly what many of you do. I think I need to step it up a bit!

I did want to share that I have recently completed PT for arthritis in my forefoot which has improved
my balance. You can’t do anything about arthritis so was interested to see what exercises I would do. I have done exercises to strengthen my foot which I expected but mostly my whole leg-outside and thighs particularly. My left ankle-the foot with arthritis-has always been very weak. What has surprised me is how it doesn’t wobble any more after strengthening my leg muscles when I do exercises requiring balance on that foot.

So if you have balance issues, my experience suggests you might want to also work on your leg muscles.

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mnannie:

How do those of you that walk daily at home manage to maintain your weight when you are on vacation? I average 13,500 steps a day, so I gain weight when we travel. I blame it on the breakfasts (not the drinks;);)).

We eat a fairly "normal" breakfast, but don't stuff ourselves, and a light lunch, but splurge a bit more for dinner because we're really hungry by then, especially if we've done a lot of walking. We're on vacation so indulging a bit is fine, imo. As Rick Steves says, "You're on vacation." Enjoy yourself.

Pam, thank you for that link. I've noticed recently that I'm a bit unsteady when standing on a chair and screwing in a lightbulb. (There's a joke here somewhere and it's on me!). And when walking if I look around I stray off the path a bit, and even bump into Mary.

eatsrootsandleaves, my attitude is if it's working for you, keep it up. Getting older is all about making adjustments to diet and exercise. For example, my days of eating a bag of Doritos along with a tub of french onion dip are over. But yeah, I'll have a couple of drinks and enjoy a pizza or a burger, but not every day lol.

Fred, congratulations. It looks like you've got the diet and exercise thing dialed in nicely.

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"I'm a bit unsteady when standing on a chair and screwing in a lightbulb."

How many social workers does it take to change a light bulb? 2 - to form a support group to encourage the light bulb to change itself, lolol! (Retired social worker)

Yes, that article I thought was interesting because I, too, was just doing static balance poses. That made so much sense that the fall hazard is in the transition/moving phase not the static phase.

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Lots of really good information in this thread. Thanks, everyone, and especially Big Mike for getting it started.

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Extended hand-to-big-toe pose. On one foot balancing. LOL
Eagle, down dog, chair, lunges, ok.
Anyone who can hold their big toe with a straight extended leg balanced on the other foot, please post a photo.

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Pam, I love those lightbulb jokes.

How many West Virginians does it take to change a light bulb? Three. One to change the bulb, and two to sit around and talk about how much they miss the old one.

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Elizabeth (formerly Bets), I think my yoga instructor can do that straight leg toe-hold pose. But what I strive for is the Denise Biellmann pose holding her ice skate above her head:

https://rinksidecafe.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/denise-biellmann-spin2.jpg

Of course she had the advantage of spinning while she did this, which makes the balance easier.

JUst kidding. N0 way could I do that. But now and then I can manage a Tree. I have to confess that I never had time for yoga—-too sedentary—-until I was seeking ways to manage my anxiety during the pandemic. So I took up yoga and meditation, and apart from the phycological benefits of both, I was surprised at my increased strength and balance from yoga.

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Work moved me to Europe 18 months ago. Since then I've lost 40 lbs. While a big part of this is the increased walking, I put a lot of the loss on the elimination of fast and processed foods. I cook a lot more than I used to, my diet has changed to include a lot less in the way of packaged or semi prepared meals, and the plethora of drive ins simply does not exist. It make a difference.

That's not to say I haven't slowed down. Climbing the hills to some of the castles has made me realize I'm not as young as I used to be.

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I did not read this as a lecture at all, but rather just good advice. I am on the younger side here in my mid 50’s but have dealt with bad knees for some time. Gotta love genetics and defects:) That said I did everything I could to still push myself so I could do the things I wanted. I had both knees replaced this winter and am thrilled to be pain free now. I’ve always felt the “use it or lose it” phrase was so accurate. My surgeon was very happy that I never gave up and kept hiking and backpacking and my P/T said that helped a lot with my recovery.

Lola—thank you for that book recommendation. I am going to order it today.

I’m in Norway right now and head back to Iceland again in a few weeks. Keeping up with diet and exercise at home definitely makes traveling easier. New knees help too:)

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Yes, diet and exercise. In that order for nearly most people, who are not running marathons or engaging in hours of strenuous exercise each day. You can walk two hours every day but will still gain weight if your diet is bad.

I actually lose weight when I travel. I am active every single day, away from the house where snacking is a problem, and make a concerted effort not to eat too much because it is easy to do. That means watching what I eat for breakfast, something very light for lunch, and not overindulging at night. Gelato is a reward.

Away and at home, the two keys are portion control and not too much alcohol.

An issue is stiffness. I may need to consider yoga.

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As I get older, like all of us, things get a little tougher. Diet and exercise become slightly less "easy" as time ticks by. Luckily for me, I've never put myself in a hole that was too difficult to climb out of. For folks who have dug a deeper hole, I'd suggest starting somewhere (maybe something easy like Eccentrics on PBS) and building back to health. With today's GLP-1s, that's another avenue to pursue. And today's tech - even just an app on your phone - can help track and motivate both exercise and diet.

I'm "too young" to retire (such nonsense!), but it is on my near-term radar now as financially it all looks good with only the typical US challenge of keeping reasonably priced healthcare coverage pre-medicare.

In any case, when my dad died a few years ago at 74, it gave me a bit of a "why am I waiting" to start ramping up the things I enjoy most. I ABSOLUTELY don't want to be entering the golden years of life with no way to enjoy them, and staying active and eating well are two huge ways I hope to enter partial and then full retirement able to tackle as much adventure as I can.

I see too many folks waiting to do stuff - for whatever reason/excuse - and then missing their chance. Sure, some of that really is that they don't actually want to do what they say they want to do (the classic "I'd love to visit Italy one day" statements), but for many of us already out and about, something out of the blue can derail our best laid plans.

IOW, while diet and exercise are VERY important (in general for life and specifically for travel), I realize most important is embracing "just do it" and a seize the day attitude when you've finally identified the things in life that bring you the most joy.

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When I was working, we had a fitness instructor in the office. She told me that if I have a specific event (like a trip) coming up and limited time, to focus on the muscles and movements I will most be doing. That is, walking (with a load) versus running; climbing stairs instead of cycling; lower back stretches; etc. In retirement, my travel prep routine has been more like: rest for 11 months. : )

The diet thing is harder to nail down. We all know what's good for us, but most people eat what they want. Before a trip, I'll cut back on caffeine, alcohol, heavy meals, etc. It's during the trip that it's harder to maintain good habits, especially with the time change. I'm not a foodie, so I don't overeat for recreational purposes like some people I know. But sticking to yogurt for breakfast, more fruit and avoiding pastries is a problem. But having an upset stomach while traveling is worse.

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But sticking to yogurt for breakfast, more fruit and avoiding pastries is a problem.

That's my travel problem. At home I have a few options to choose from for breakfast, so there's not much temptation. At home I drink black coffee, but I'm obsessed with the fancy self-serve coffee machines in hotels. We leave tomorrow for 23 days, and every meal will be eaten out. I'd going to do my best to drink water and pass on the wine and beer. WIsh me luck!

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How many social workers does it take to change a light bulb? 2 - to form a support group to encourage the light bulb to change itself, lolol! (Retired social worker)

Pam, LOL from an LCSW here ;)

The West Virginia version also made me laugh ...

If only the giggles counted as meaningful movement as I read and type this on my phone on my sofa rather than GETTING WALKING. (Oof!)

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I’m a big walker and I also do Pilates, stretching and light weight lifting daily. Core strength is critical, and planks really help with that. I love doing them, BUT I do modified planks using my knees instead of toes. That’s how I was taught when I went to PT for my weak back.

My weakness is I have poor balance. I know I need to work on that, and I keep thinking I should do yoga. I’ve done a little of it but I’ve never gotten into a good routine. You are all inspiring me to just do it. Can anyone recommend a good video? I am not interested in taking a class.

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Carroll, not yoga but an excellent exercise for balance is the single leg split squat.
Simple enough. Take a comfortable stride then rest the back foot on a chair, back knee bent and "squat" the front leg until thigh parallel to ground and then straighten it. If you can't manage to do them at first you can cheat by holding onto a chair.

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Mike, thanks for starting this conversation. I needed it! So much good advice here.

I’m pretty good at following a healthy diet, but am extremely resistant to exercise. Having a job that keeps me tied to the computer for 8 or 9 hours a day, 5 days a week, doesn’t help. On the rare occasions when I get to travel, I can feel how out of shape I’ve gotten.

Pam, I too have an old mini trampoline with springs (bought at Paragon Sports here in NYC back in the’90s for about $39, if memory serves). I’ve been neglecting it because my back and ankles feel sore after a jumping session; it never occurred to me that the stiff springs and taut bouncing surface could be to blame. Your new JumpSport with bungees sounds wonderful! I’ve added it to my Amazon shopping list and am considering following your lead and buying it for myself as a birthday present next month.

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Just in case anyone is looking for a great exercise, take a look at Pilates. It is a great workout. The reformer machines are great, but you can also do a lot at home without one. If you have a Peloton, they have Pilates in there as well.

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Mikliz97, I also have a Pilates Performer (scaled-down home version of a Reformer), and I love it when I bestir myself to actually use it. It’s my second one; I had an almost identical model for years and gave it away when I moved to my current apartment, but eventually missed it enough to buy this one.

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@Hannah....glad another social worker got a laugh out of that!

@ Carrol....There are LOTS of beginning yoga videos on Youtube. Look upthread to the link I gave to a YogaJournal article as well. They are fairly accessible exercises and if you are doing Pilates they may work for you. I subscribe to Yoga with Adriene but to be honest she does not give enough modifications for a beginner in my mind. She does have some other instructors on her channel now that I think might offer more beginner-friendly things but I would go the Youtube route and see if you can find an instructor you click with.

@ NancyG - Are you bouncing barefoot or with shoes on? When I started back I was bouncing barefoot and was having knee and ankle pain. After a few sessions I started wearing my athletic shoes and wow...that was a game changer. No pain, more stability. After about 6 months I'd strengthened enough so that I can do barefoot or, actually, I wear barefoot shoes so I don't slip and that works really well. Look at ordering directly from Jumpsport rather than Amazon. I ordered thru the online rebounder instructor I use, EarthandOwl.com I think pricewise they are about the same. Don't get the 250, if you are going to buy, go with the 350Pro. I got the quick release handlebar which I like a lot. Wasn't sure I needed it but it helps me really get my heart rate up. Yes, I paid more for cute colors, hahaha!

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The essential factor in pursuing the diet and exercise program is the discipline to stick with it. Of course, we feel like lazing out but just think that is counter-productive and will kill me in the end. In France the desserts I saw served at breakfast not only looked scrumptious but indeed are, the breads , tarts, etc but to keep your numbers (the blood test results) in their "proper" place, you have to desist from these goodies, ie basically, lay off these temptations. It's tough.

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Pam, thanks so much for your expert advice! I’ll start by bouncing with my sneakers on and will follow your suggestions when I get around to purchasing my new rebounder!

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Fred, sugar is toxic. It's inflammatory. Now, I'm not saying one should become a monk of sorts and live a Spartan lifestyle, and yes when you're on vacation it's perfectly fine to indulge a little without going off the deep end. What you eat 90 percent of the time is what matters. A weekly cheat meal or two with your favorite fun food is alright.

Regardless of one's health and fitness, there are little things we can do to improve it.

According to Harvard, genes account for about 25-40 percent of human disease but the vast majority, is determined by our environment—including modifiable lifestyle behaviors such as our nutrition, stress levels, sleep habits , and physical activity

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Thank you, Pam. I have never developed the habit of checking You Tube, so I appreciate the suggestion.

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"sugar is toxic" Ain't that the absolute truth, Mike....no truer words said when it comes to white sugar.

I am only glad in my life ,ie when I didn't know better, that when I used sugar in my coffee, it was still restricted to one cube or half a teaspoon, if even that. That stuff kills you in the end.

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"sugar is toxic" Ain't that the absolute truth, Mike....no truer words said when it comes to white sugar.

Unless it's European sugar. Then it's no doubt healthier.

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Great thread!

I started working out with a trainer years ago to focus on correcting some functional imbalances. Years of endurance running and cycling made my legs go up and down very well but not so much side to side. My balance was okay but my core strength was a joke. The trainer set me on a course of whole body integration doing most of the things people here have mentioned and now I feel better than I ever have.

Our local rec center and a functional strength training class that teaches all of the basic exercise one needs to improve core strength, balance and mobility issues. I would think a similar course would be a good first step for anyone just starting out or, like me, who has done only a couple things for so long that the rest of their body parts may have been neglected.

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Our local rec center and a functional strength training class that
teaches all of the basic exercise one needs to improve core strength,
balance and mobility issues.

I started paying more attention to my core during the pandemic and while my 6-pack remains well hidden, I'm surprised how much it's helped with my overall fitness and mobility. Even my knees and hips feel better thanks to the added stability through my core.

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Pam will now be referred to as the “Healthy Enabler”! LOL! I bought the rebounder she recommended (also like the Earth & Owl YouTube videos), and it’s the perfect solution to what I wanted at home. I like to use it barefoot, but I will helpfully say if you’re going barefoot, be very careful walking in the vicinity of the rebounder during the cool down exercises. I whacked my 4th toe on one of the rebounder legs (they curve outward & down) and had to take a few days off of exercising.

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I help and interact with a lot of people in their 60s, 70s, and 80s who are very active (mostly cyclists and skiers, both alpine and nordic). Most have been exercising a lot since they were young, adjusting their workout regimens as they age and leveraging the good (e.g. better endurance as you age) and trying to minimize the bad (e.g. reduced agility and muscle tone).

Most of them consult a coach or personal trainer to provide guidance and encouragement. These coaches and trainers run the gamut. Some are the "hardball" types, others are more holistic and sympathetic - it all depends on the person.

I'm a coach in both alpine ski racing and cycling, and at 51 (as I type this) I've already had a total hip replacement (7.5 years ago) as well as my fair share of other injuries that come from intense face-offs with gravity and physics. I know what it's like to lose mobility and fitness, and I know firsthand that recovering lost fitness, flexibility, and mobility takes hard work and dedication.

Yes, much of it has to do with overall activity level, as well as a healthy diet. In the U.S. we eat too many "footstuffs" - i.e. heavily processed foods with too many chemicals, sugars, salts, and fats. It's what drives the food economy here, and the foods are engineered to be addictive (for instance, Oreo cookies have been shown to be as addictive as opiods and cocaine - yikes!). I've adjusted my diet to be closer to what I eat when I'm in Europe: a lot of fresh, seasonal foods with minimal ingredient lists, seasoned reasonably. It's why I stay in places with kitchens and shop at farm markets - i.e. live like a local.

It doesn't mean I cut out all of the tasty treats - that's part of travel and life. But I earn the treat by maintaining a super active daily schedule. While I'm lucky that I have a job that allows me to be active on my bicycle, in the gym, and on the hill, I know it's not easy for others who juggle work and family life - time is finite. And that's why it takes dedication and, more often than not, guidance.

I also choose to live in a community (in my case, a densely populate urban environment) where almost all of my needs are walking or biking distance away. I do 90% of my shopping on foot or with my bike - and yes, this includes Costco runs! My car doesn't see a lot of use outside of the ski coaching season (mainly because the hills I coach at aren't on a transit line) and that's perfectly fine for my own needs. But this kind of living has its drawbacks (e.g. small living space, no yard or garden, and the overall noise of living in a city), and I don't see it as the end-all, be-all for everyone. But it's an ideal situation for an active lifestyle, especially as I age.

Whatever the case, it's important to ramp up to any change in physical activity or diet, not only to make it more palatable but also to prevent it from being such a shock that it discourages continuing with the changes. Change, as they say, is hard, so it's best to make the transition easier.

It makes me very happy to see people discussing these challenges of aging, time budgeting, and finding ways to keep active. Find an activity - one that makes you sweat, gets your heart and breathing rate up, is weight bearing, etc. - that makes you want to continue doing it moving forward. Smile through the inevitable pain as your muscles and joints adjust (but please: see a physician if any pains are greatly outside of normal because chronic pain is not good). Attitude is a key component.

Good luck, all - and keep up the positive talk!

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Jean I completely agree, Pam is the healthy enabler! I’m also looking at the rebounder, trying to decide if I’d really use it. It seems very portable which would be a big point to recommend it. I’d hate to see it in my den but I’d never use it if it lived back in our catch all room. So it must be something that can be moved back and forth. What does anyone think??

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I damaged my lower back (I was quite efficient, sadly.) more than 30 years ago. While the damage is permanent, learning how to better care for myself from a physical therapist saved me. I have missed doing those exercises once in the intervening years, but then I missed the entire day. Yes, being stubborn about it and faithful to it matters. So another voice for finding what works for you, what keeps you flexible and strong, and doing it daily. Neither of us ever wants to be the person who falls and can't even roll over to get up.

I'd like to suggest a couple of books that we found helpful:

https://www.amazon.com/Strong-Women-Stay-Young-Revised/dp/055338077X

https://www.amazon.com/Pain-Free-Revised-Updated-Second/dp/1101886641

Donna

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I want to add a different voice to this conversation.

For those people who want to travel but for reasons that are no one's business they might not be able to work out the way people do on this thread. They may not be able to go to the gym or climb mountains, or run marathons. Their mobility might be limited.

To them, I say, travel. Yes, you might have some limitations, but there are ways around almost anything. See what you want to see, experience what you want to experience. Don't let anyone stop you from following your dreams. Don't let anyone say you have to be a certain way to travel.

If anyone should lecture you because of your condition, weight, physical abilities, or anything else, just ignore them and live your life your way.

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I'd like to add mental attitude to the conversation. So many people think that because they are a certain age they put mental limits on themselves and their beliefs. It's hard to keep ageism out of your head too, especially when people project their age beliefs onto you. Don't let anyone get into your head and put you in their box of what they think you should be or be doing.

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Mo R--That is so true. I see this in my FIL and for as long as I have known him, it has always been excuses as to why he can't do stuff. I think a lot of that is why I am the complete opposite, and refuse to give up on anything.

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"Pam is the healthy enabler!"

Hahaha...thanks for that! And yes, there is an extra bedroom in the house that is the "gym".....the rebounder (now 2 because I haven't gotten around to trying to sell the old Needak - anyone local to CdA Want it? I'll give it to you but be warned it's not as much fun as the Jumpsport!), also a Total Gym, bike on a trainer, Fluidity barre, Bosu, various weights. Located in a different place is yoga equipment - mat, blocks, strap, etc.

"Don't let anyone say you have to be a certain way to travel. If anyone should lecture you because of your condition, weight, physical abilities, or anything else"

I just don't see this thread as a lecture that someone must do certain things to travel. I see it as opening people's eyes as to what kind of things they might do if they choose. I do work out to have a better time when I travel and hopefully to be able to extend my travel years. I definitely see myself "aging out" of the more active tours that I've been doing but want to put that off as long as possible. Yes, I'm working on getting down and back up from the ground so crawling into a chambered cairn on Orkney is doable for me. I want that for me, not because of outside influences. I've never been an athlete but have better consistency when I am leading up to a vacation.

I'm also on a could of FB pages for Road Scholar. Their programs are a bit less active than Rick's tours. One woman was asking about the program for Paris at a Slower Pace. Her husband wanted to go on the regular Paris one but she wasn't sure she could keep up, then asked at the end...did people think it would help for her to start walking (she apparently has no physical limitations) if they planned to go on a tour next year. I was sort of dumbstruck. Yes, yes, yes, please do some activity and ramp it up so you can see Paris. Kind of heartbreaking really.

crossposting with Mo R and Mikliz....and yes, I do agree. This is what the person on the Road Scholar forum seems to be caught up in. Not for me!

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Pam--You made me laugh at the getting up off the ground comment. I had two knee replacements this past winter and that is one thing that I still struggle with. I can get down, but getting back up is not always pretty. I don't care though as I do it in my own way;) We kayaked on our trip last week, and getting out of the kayak was not pretty, but I managed to not make everyone stare, so there is progress.

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Elizabeth—I’ve had 5 knee surgeries and I remember asking my p/t about the bathtub after my first surgery.

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Bathtubs are awful! Plus you get so used to just having a shower that you lose that skill especially when wet, lol!!

Mikliz...oh no...no kayak for me! You would not believe how many youtube videos there are for working on the skill for getting up from the ground. I actually did a fun week's program with a woman from UK who specializes in helping you to work movement into your day including getting up from the ground. I also try to sit on the floor for 30 minutes a day (so why am I in a chair at the computer and have been for 3 hours??) which helps with hip/knee/ankle mobility. Well, let's say I'd like to try to do that, lol!!

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I just don't see this thread as a lecture that someone must do certain
things to travel. I see it as opening people's eyes as to what kind of
things they might do if they choose.

Well said. I don't know this for sure, but I suspect I'm slightly below the average age of the regulars on this forum. I find it extremely beneficial to read about the physical challenges of those older than me. Call it a learning experience of how others cope with challenges I may have to face in the future.

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Pam--I should look at the you tubes a I am sure they are helpful but also entertaining. If I sit on the floor inside, the dogs think that means it is dogpile time, so I may have to practice on the grass while weeding, etc.

Allan--I am younger than many here as well, mid 50's. My knee issues were deformities that I never knew about until I missed a step at Versaille and went flying. The ortho was shocked at what I could do considering what a mess they were. I did marathons, we backpack and hike etc, so the knees just plain wore out. Now my ankle, that was my own fault as I dropped a heavy table on it;)

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Pam, wow, love your posts. Worth the price of admission. Quite thoughtful, grounded, and with a sense of humor.

Frank II, that was wonderful and spot on. Thank you.

This thread is not us vs them, but how to optimize travel from a diet and exercise standpoint. For those limited physically, well, diet is most of the equation as we age. We can't put in low grade fuel and expect a high grade output.

You know, like garbage in, garbage out apps and computer models and coding...

Like aging rock stars use an upcoming concert tour as reason to drop some weight and get in better condition, I also use an upcoming vacation as motivation to get as fit as possible, and it's enjoyable, really. We're 63 and on our way to Denmark and Poland, and we both have never felt better. That wasn't by accident. And it wasn't by torture. All of this is not about living longer, but by feeling much better while we're living.

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I just don't see this thread as a lecture that someone must do certain things to travel. I see it as opening people's eyes as to what kind of things they might do if they choose.

I agree. No lectures, just encouragement to get moving at whatever level you can. That book I recommended (Younger Next Year) suggests that if all you can do is walk to the mailbox and back, start with that. Every day, Then twice a day, and then try a bit longer.

There is a man in my “senior fitness” class with such severe kyphosis his head is bend forward at a 90 degree angle to his spine. He is permanently looking straight down at his feet. Yet he shows up to every class, exercises hard, and joins in cheerfully with the social interactions before and after class. He is dealing with his mobility limitations in a way that inspires everyone around him.

Changing the subject, as for bathtubs—-they are our nemesis. My husband says they are evil. The most important of the criteria I apply to choosing a hotel room or apartment, is the shower: it must be a walk-in shower, not a shower-over-tub combination. Fortunately this type are becoming easier and easier to find in Italy, where we travel the most. Not so in the US, where the tub/shower combo is the standard, in chain hotels in particular.

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The most important of the criteria I apply to choosing a hotel room or
apartment, is the shower: it must be a walk-in shower, not a
shower-over-tub combination.

I'm not sure if that's the most important criteria for us, but it's up there in room selection. Because my wife is only 5' tall she finds the height of some tubs in overseas travels to be a challenge; especially when wet. However in the theme of this thread, no amount of exercise is going to make her taller.

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I am only glad in my life ,ie when I didn't know better, that when I used sugar in my coffee, it was still restricted to one cube or half a teaspoon, if even that. That stuff kills you in the end.

Fred, I agree. One of the few smart things I did when I was younger was to stop adding sugar and cream to my coffee. I started out that way in college, but after about six months, realized how many calories I was ingesting from 2-4 (or 5+ during exams) cups of coffee a day. Then later on as an adult, I stopped adding sugar to my tea (both iced and hot), and also quit drinking pop (sugared and diet).

In fact, the soda ban came years ago when I was talking one day to a co-worker who had been diagnosed with brain cancer that he eventually died of. When he was answering multiple questions from his doctors about his lifestyle, one question was "How much diet soft drinks do you consume per day?" He was the production stage manager at the theatre I worked at, and he drank probably 7-8 cans of Diet Coke a day; sometimes more during production week. I quit drinking soda that same day.

Don't get me wrong, my body is not perfect by any means and as I've gotten older, it's taken its toll. But the fact that I eat relatively healthy definitely affects my energy levels. The days where I eat too much sugar and carbs and don't have enough exercise are the days where I feel the worst. I blame Earl Butz for the massive increase in the production of corn, which led to more sugar, but ultimately it's on me. It's my hand putting food into my mouth.

At home I drink black coffee, but I'm obsessed with the fancy self-serve coffee machines in hotels

mnannie, this!!!! I could easily drink 4-5 cappuccinos from those machines!

Try getting out of a bathtub. Now that’s a challenge.

Bets, it sure is!!! But I will say it's gotten easily for me since I've been doing wall push ups. My PT told me about them and they really do strengthen your arms. And I refuse to give up baths. They're great for relaxation after a long day of sightseeing and walking.

Mike, great thread! And lots and lots of good advice here!

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Allan--I am your wife's heigh plus an inch. Yes some of those tubs are way too tall for me and I get in and out very carefully!

Mardee--Wow, that was a lot of soda! Thankfully I have only ever liked my coffee black, although last week on vacation the coffee was so bad at two hotels that I did put one cube of sugar it in to take the bitterness away. Growing up, the only time we had soda in the house was when my parents were having a party, and then it was 7UP for mixers. So I am thankful that it was never a part of our daily life, and I kept it that way after marriage and kids.

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I have a question. How do you get better at uneven surfaces when you don’t have any where you live? We are going to Portugal in 5 weeks.

We just returned from Colorado where our two sons live. The trails are rocky there. They are not here in Florida. I was very careful the day we had to go down lots of rocks to get to the lake. I noticed by the end of the day I was much better at making the initial decent down. This made me think I could be better than I am at maneuvering uneven surfaces.

I do balance exercises-like standing on one foot-but not quite the same thing as moving on uneven surfaces.

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"I have a question. How do you get better at uneven surfaces when you don’t have any where you live? We are going to Portugal in 5 weeks."

@BethFL - While I do have access to uneven ground here in North Idaho, I use a BOSU trainer for balance especially in the month or so before a trip. This is device like half an exercise ball on a flat board. You can use it either with the ball side up or the flat side up (BOthSidesUp). I do 30 second holds in 5 different foot positions and run thru it twice. There are a number of balance trainers on the market now whereas when I got the BOSU 15 years ago there were not. You want to be able to provide an unstable surface for your foot to challenge your balance. Functional podiatrist Emily Splichal has Naboso.com and offers a Kinesis board and there are several other wobbleboards that will give you some challenges. I do not have the kinesis board.

Thank you Mike, for the kind words.

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Interesting thread and replies.

Last trip to London in 2022 thought the pain I started to experience between my shoulder blades was due to my poor posture. Popped Alleve and kept meandering. Hours of walking and exploring.

Fast forward to March of 2024. While lounging felt sudden stabbing heart pain. Ignored it but a few hours later my jaw went numb. Knew it was ER time. Drove myself to the closest hospital.

Yup. Heart attack. Great Dr’s. Stellar care over my 3 day hospitalization.

Totally grateful for my insurance.

Had another stress test yesterday ( my joke is the stress is the LA traffic getting to and from the facility)

Discussing results with cardiologist tomorrow. That conversation will clarify if I’ll need a stent and if I can travel.

IMHO life is a crap shoot. Genetics and diet are factors.

Did once daily 3 mile hikes in Griffith Park help?

Can’t ponder. All i know is whatever cardiologist advises will dictate my future life style.

One thing for certain, I’m not giving up an occasional bag of peanut M & M’s. One has to have simple pleasures that provide joy.

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Claudia, FWIW, my best friend was a marathoner and still runs and hikes a lot, and his diet is so perfect it's annoying when I'm around him lol. He's 59 and has a family history of heart disease. Thanks to genetics his bad cholesterol numbers went up and he now has to take a statin. The cardiologist--apparently among the best at UVA--told him to keep on doing what he's doing, because even though 'Richard' can't escape his genetic lottery, there is a lot still under his control. And better yet, the doctor said there's no reason he can't live well into his 80s, and even joked that it's OK to have a hamburger, milkshake, or pizza, just infrequently (which I would guess means no more than once per week.)

A sincere 'all the best' to you and it's good to know you have top notch medical care, plus you take good care of yourself.

p.s. Give me a sleeve of Oreos or a large bag of peanut M&Ms with a large glass of cold milk and I'm in heaven, or better yet an Oreo or M&M milkshake. Rootbeer floats... those were the carefree days. (Steel yourself, Mike!)

edit: Yeah, balance sure does become an issue as we age, and I realize I need to do the wobble board (they're cheap), because all I do now is stand on one foot for 60 seconds, and that's not enough.

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Claudia -how scary! So glad you got good medical care. And I certainly hope you can travel again soon.

Pam-thanks for the suggestion of the Bosu! I belong to the Y and they have them there. I used to take a Pilates class where we stood on them. But teacher left and haven’t used them in years. But will do it!

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Claudia, that must have been frightening! I hope your prognosis is good and that you are able to still travel.

And please, do NOT drive yourself to the ER if you think you're having a heart attack! You were lucky. An actor friend of mine walked from his apartment to the hospital, instead of calling 911. He collapsed on the way there and died soon after. EMTs are trained to deal with this stuff. You could have been stuck in traffic or encountered other obstacles.

Sorry for the preaching but I would hate for something to happen to you that could have been avoided. :-)

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Mike, as much as I like sweets, I've never been particularly fond of Oreos. Good thing, probably. But throw a sleeve of the Girl Scout Samoas my way, and they might be gone before they hit the table. I have to avoid the cookie section at Aldi so I don't buy their knockoffs (which taste just as good). "-)

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Mardee, what would you drink with those cookies? Milk?

I forgot to mention another favorite is chocolate milk with ice cream smashed and mixed into it. Be still my heart!

Good advice about not driving to the ER, but I could see myself doing the same thing if any other alternative was too slow in my opinion.

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Mardee…appreciate the concern but the reality was/is I’m not a doctor so even though I suspected a heart attack how could I be 100% certain.

Other than 20 years with a great partner till his unexpected death I’ve done everything on my own. Comes from being an only child and thinking independently. So driving myself to the ER was a no brainer in my mind. I even made the choice of not driving to the more renowned Cedar Sinai hospital which is further away. It’s LA, a megalopolis. You make choices about travel times and distances.

With all that said and with the blessing of my cardiologist after we discussed the results of my stress test it’s back to London in the Fall.

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Claudia, very happy to hear you've been cleared to travel. Have a particularly wonderful time in London.

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Mardee, what would you drink with those cookies? Milk?

Mike, I would have them with black tea (preferably Lapsang Souchong) with a splash of milk. I loved milk as a kid, but the days are long gone that I can drink a glass of milk without consequences. :-)

Claudia, I'm glad to hear you were cleared for travel! And I totally get that about doing things on your own. I have a daughter but up until I retired, she lived far away with her family so I've gotten used to that as well.

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Thanks folks. Spending Sunday refining travel itinerary: dates, length, accommodations, flights.

Travel keeps me sane and as London is my favorite city on the planet happy I’m able to return. So are the friends who live there. A win win!

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Good to hear, Claudia.

Mardee, sigh, as we age we have to make adjustments. No question. I sometimes miss the reckless abandon of eating and drinking anything when I was young. Those were the days.