Euro Cup 2020 begins today!

Carlos, thank you for this post and for the schedule! We’re big football fans and have been in Italy and France many times for the World Cup.

No problem Susan, looking at the groups, it appears group F will be the "Group of Death" this year, with Portugal, Hungary, France, and Germany all in the same group, it will certainly make for good football!

Hup Holland Hup!!!!

Driving hone from the grocery store late last night, NPR had a story about the upcoming Italy vs. Turkey match. The Italian coach said something about his team taking a new approach for that game, and New Italian meant having an aggressive, attacking offense. I wondered whether Italian soccer had traditionally been passive, not trying to score, and with a strong defense that would maybe get them a 1 to 0 win?

That does sound good Carlos!

Watching Turkey v Italy. We are in a little pool with our pub friends. I had this as 0-0. Sigh.

I wondered whether Italian soccer had traditionally been passive, not trying to score, and with a strong defense that would maybe get them a 1 to 0 win?

Exactly, Italy had always been known as a very defensive (or "cautious" depending on who you ask) team, who rely on quick counter attacks to score goals only after they have bogged down the opposing team in their defensive line.

What are dates for the final 4?

Hubby already watching and on the phone with friends. Our schedule will revolve around their schedule.

@Jazz

Semi-finals
Tuesday 6 July
SF1: Winner QF2 vs Winner QF1 (21:00, London)

Wednesday 7 July
SF2: Winner QF4 vs Winner QF3 (21:00, London)

Final
Sunday 11 July
Winner SF1 vs Winner SF2 (21:00, London)

I’ve had enough already. A tedious month ahead. Pity it wasn’t cancelled last year!

FORZA AZURRI! Great win for Italy last night, I really like this team although they've yet to be tested against the big boys so the later rounds will show what they're made of...

One of the most the gut-wrenching and surreal things I've seen on a football pitch, the Finland/Denmark game has been suspended, praying for speedy recovery for Christian Eriksen, thank god he is alive!

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/12/football/christian-eriksen-denmark-finland-euro-2020-spt-intl/index.html

So so scary.

Jennifer, why do you say that?

Maybe it's like the football here in Autumn when some women complain about being football widows as their husbands are so absorbed with the game.

Carlos, thank you for posting both of those. Growing up with a daily paper, I still struggle to stay aware of upcoming sports events on the world stage while relying on the Internet. The look of anguish on the player’s face in one shot as he watched his fallen teammate broke a piece of my heart.

I was watching the Denmark game live , just terrifying watching a guy fight for his life.
The fact that he later facetimed his teammates saying " he was feeling much better" is epic levels of understatement.

Where is Iceland? That's my team!

Holland is #2. Hup, two, three four is the cheer I remember!

Yes, I'm waiting for the Final Four when it finally gets interesting. I can only watch so many nail-biting 1-0 and 0-0 thrillers.

Eng-ger-land, Eng-ger-land, Eng-ger-land!

It’s the hope that kills you…….

Thanks Carlos for posting this....

(Hoping perhaps you will update the fixtures with scores and perhaps a points table) (just hoping)

Hi Nigel, I'm hoping to keep this a spoiler free topic, for the most part, in case anyone could not see a match live :)

But here are the fixtures with results so far:

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/news/0254-0d41684d1216-06773df7faed-1000--euro-2020-all-the-fixtures/

Just wanted to add that I am so glad that Erikson is doing better. Scary stuff.

It's coming home, gents!

Surprisingly, Italy are kicking some serious butt, if Spain does not make it to the final (fingers crossed), an Italy vs. France final would be a worthy substitute.

And don't forget folks, Copa America is being played in Brazil right now also.

Oh wait....am I supposed to post this in "Beyond Europe?"

Here's to Croatia's chances. I'm a big fan. Also Hungary.

Already an amazing outcome: France beats Germany 1-0, where the 1 was an own-goal.

I thought this was staying spoiler free... hard isn't it?

The Netherlands is now 2-0 and will win their group - Shades of 1988!

Last night's game ended at about 2300h and enthusiastic fans filled the streets near our apartment, cheering for their team! Granted, the Dutch team might be in the weakest group... but now is not the time to rationalize, rather to celebrate!

Hup Holland Hup!!!

All eyes on Wembley ,another meeting in the 149 year football rivalry.
Got the beer on standby .

Been following a few games. Noticed water bottles, etc. thrown onto the field. Is this wide spread and common?

Been following a few games. Noticed water bottles, etc. thrown onto the field. Is this wide spread and common?

Depends on where we are playing, the tolerance for unruly behaviour is more or less based on local sporting culture of the area. In general, in Spain, I know it's pretty rare, but further east you go they'll sometimes throw worse than water bottles, like smoke bombs and flares, especially in the Balkans area 😁

Lots of honking cars in Frankfurt last night after Germany won.

Here, too!

The Germany/Portugal game gave me hope that this Euro cup will actually be worth watching lol!

Spain so far has been an utter disappointment, I wish we will just lose spectacularly, just so we can get rid of our coach Luis Enrique... and Morata too while they are at it.

Smoke bombs and flares?!? That takes soccer hooliganism to a totally different level. I guess you don’t want to be sitting in the “wrong” section, or wearing the wrong colors!

These are not at all new. Most soccer fans are great, but sadly the not great ones are always keen on being the most visible. League play is every bit as intense, but the games can still be tons of fun. There are idiots everywhere, sadly; don't let them take your enjoyment of the game. And maybe find the right team to support re: league play ;)

Anyone watch Denmark-Russia?

HowlinMad, the 2nd half of the Denmark-Russia game was incredible - and highly emotional! We had a few Danish friends in the stadium sending out photos and live feeds. The Danish team played an inspired - and inspiring - game.

And another impressive game was the Dutch win over North Macedonia. The Netherlands team made it look easy and they've played two of the best halves of the tournament (also: 1st game, 1st half). It will be interesting to see if they can carry this into the next round where they'll meet far stiffer competition. It's been an entertaining tournament so far - and the locals here are SO EXCITED!

-SPOLIER ALERT-

With some of the best/most emotional games yet, in my opinion played today the group stage has concluded, and the much anticipated round of 16 knockout phase commences this Saturday!

Round of 16

Saturday 26 June
1: Wales vs Denmark (18:00, Amsterdam)
2: Italy vs Austria (21:00, London)

Sunday 27 June
3: Netherlands vs Czech Republic (18:00, Budapest)
4: Belgium vs Portugal (21:00, Seville)

Monday 28 June
5: Croatia vs Spain (18:00, Copenhagen)
6: France vs Switzerland (21:00, Bucharest)

Tuesday 29 June
7: England vs Germany (18:00, London)
8: Sweden vs Ukraine (21:00, Glasgow)

Vamos la Furia Roja!!! 🔴🟡🔴

Carlos, can you please explain:

• Why was the Seville stadium almost empty when Spain played the must win game against Slovakia?

• How is which stadium for which game determined? England is the only team with a "home court" advantage in the Round of 16.

Sweden won their group, I did not see that coming.

The multi-city format was decided years ago, and cities bid to host group or knockout games. The decision of who hosted which knockout games was set early. The groups are set by draw, and each host city's nation got to play two or three games at home. So Hungary and Germany each played two games at home, but the all-important match between the two was in Germany because of a random draw I believe. Beyond that there were factors based on qualifications/performance in group stages that allowed teams to basically earn the home advantage. I don't know the exact details.

There was some switching due to Covid. UEFA wanted fans in the seats, so they set some basic minimums. Local restrictions meant that Dublin could no longer host, and I think Seville replaced Bilbao IIRC. London (Wembley) agreed to take on extra games if needed.

As to stadium capacities, remember that the vaccines are not readily available in Europe. As a result we still have a great many restrictions in place here, and they vary by country and region based on Covid numbers, etc. So Hungary, which has few restrictions, has been filling its stadium, while Spain and others still have capacity limits in place.

@staynsavor - Spain's stadium capacity is currently at 15%, but due to be 100% by September, in time for La Liga. As opposed to Hungary, which appears to be at 120% by the look of that France vs Portugal game lol!

Italy-Austria is not going to be much, but is televised on non-pay TV, so I'm on for that.

Belgium-Portugal is possibly going to be something.

England-Germany will be good. Germany has underperformed (own-goal to lose to France?). They need a break-out. True, they crushed Portugal 4-2.

Croatia-Spain might be a surprise. Spain has sucked big dogs so far. In 2019, we watched Croatia-Wales on the street in Zagreb. Good times. Wish I was there for that game.

Barbara:

Hubby already watching and on the phone with friends. Our schedule will revolve around their schedule.

Wish we could join you for Croatia-Spain.

I've been watching soccer/football/calcio for almost 40 years now and I have to say that the final night of group play was about as exciting and insane as anything I've ever seen. I had both matches (France-Portugal, Hungary-Germany) on at the same time and at various times of the matches, Portugal and Germany occupied all 4 spots in the group. Amazing. I was extremely impressed by Hungary at these Euros, I thought they'd be the whipping boy of that group but they more than held their own. Their defense against Germany was stellar. They only made two errors all match, unfortunately Germany turned them into two goals. I can't remember a Group of Death that lived up to its billing as much as this one did. Should be some good matches in the knockout rounds, if Italy beat Austria, they will get either Belgium or Portugal (my money's on Belgium, DeBruyne is just on another level right now). And has Spain finally found their form or was the 5-0 drubbing of Slovakia an anomaly? We shall see...

Smoke bombs and flares?!? That takes soccer hooliganism to a totally
different level.

It's not that big a deal. It's pretty common at MLS matches here in the US.
NY Red Bull allows it's supporter groups to light them after a goal (as long as they don't go on the the playing field). Pre-game there is a march of fans from downtown Newark to the stadium, and the police escorting us are cool with them as well.

Carlos and HowlinMad, thanks for the explanations.

I've been watching soccer/football/calcio for almost 40 years now and I have to say that the final night of group play was about as exciting and insane as anything I've ever seen.

Agreed that those great games on the same day was exceptional.

I recorded those games and planned to watch them in sequence. Unfortunately, during each game, the score of a concurrent game was announced. Spoilers for both the teams on the field and the viewers.

Thanks for posting this. Admittedly, I have not been following all this.

"...France is a big favorite to win this year...." Great, hope that happens !!

Won a scarf and soccer ball from our local German Embassy/consulate so guess I will have to cheer them on playing England. Only wonder which German team will show up. I always hope that the small EU countries will win-like Belgium just because everyone likes an underdog.

"I always hope that the small EU countries will win-like Belgium just because everyone likes an underdog."

Underdog? The top ranked football side in the world ?

I realise that is going to sound sarcastic, but it needs to be said.
The Belgians have a terrific group of players at the moment, and an excellent coach. If England can't win (and they won't playing the way they are), I'd like Belgium to be champions.

As Tim mentions, size mostly does not equate to underdog status in European football, countries like Portugal and Belgium both have some of the best squads in this tournament, Russia and Turkey not so much albeit thier size lol!

Denmark-Wales - laugher - no contest
Austria-Italy - WOW - super super game - Austria was playing very very well, and seemed to get a go-ahead, but it was properly ruled offside. In the overtime, Italy recovered their form and "put their noses in front" (comment from the TV guy) to salvage a win 2-0. Italy was not impressive, but Austria was. Being impressive and losing is disappointing, of course.

BUUUTTTTTT WAIT!!!! AUSTRIA SCORES - 2-1
Italy concedes the first goal in about 15 games.

And it ends with Italy winning 2-1. WHAT A GAME!!! Stunning performance by Austria, but Italy wins. All goals scored in the over-time 30 minutes.

Well I'm in dead last in my predictions pool after the group stages. Looking for a big comeback in the knockout rounds!!

Didn't know the underdog comments would be so poorly taken.
Denmark looked fierce yesterday and I don't think either England/Germany can match them. 4-0 is quite the score plus their 4-1 Russia win.

Didn't know the underdog comments would be so poorly taken.

It's always a big mistake to take sports rivalries seriously. We can all enjoy the success of our favorite teams, and the losses of our hated rivals, without losing sleep.

Unless you put money on the games. And after the loss of the Chiefs to the Tampa Bay Bradys, I won't be betting on anything sports-related.

BUUUTTTTTT WAIT!!!! AUSTRIA SCORES - 2-1
Italy concedes the first goal in about 15 games.

That corner kick and header score belongs in any highlight reel.

Austria-Italy - WOW - super super game

I disagree, it was terribly boring for the vast majority and only came alive towards the end and during extra time. It wasn't a patch on any of the final round of group games.

Eagerly awaiting a repeat of the the England v Germany game of September 2001.

Belgium vs Portugal is what I will be eagerly awaiting for today 👀

Smoke bombs and flares?!? That takes soccer hooliganism to a totally
different level.
It's not that big a deal. It's pretty common at MLS matches here in the US

Watching the Tour de France yesterday, there were several instances of roadside spectators holding little sticks, with white and sometimes yellow smoke rushing from them - are those the same thing? One appeared to be a hand-pumped device. None were quite like the spray from a fire extinguisher, but produced enough emissions to be annoying - like the visual equivalent of the stupid air horns that some fans have subjected people around them to for the past couple of decades. Aiming it right at a passing bicycle racer, who’s breathing hard and doesn’t need convoluted smoke in the face or lungs, is irresponsible and inconsiderate, and I can’t see how that made anything better in any way, except perhaps to show that the spectator was a lame pyromaniac-wannabe.

Maybe it’s a Euro thing, or a soccer thing. Maybe it’s not an impediment for football/fútbol, but if it’s creeping into bike racing, it’s going too far.

I very much enjoyed watching Austria!

And this Netherlands-Czechia game is interesting!

Geez, again no points in my pool. At least nobody in my pool picked Czech R.

Netherlands missed Virgil today. With him at the back it would have been a different story.

Austria-Italy was a very good game.

I wish I had watch Czechia-Netherlands. If you put money on Czechia, you made a pile. I would guess that 1 in 10 picked them to win over the Orange. But, as they say, it's why they play the games.

Both goals from Czechia were stunning. The red card was well-deserved - bad bad defending. But the first goal - 2 headers, very high on the quality scale.

The Tour de France always amazes me that they let spectators get so close to the riders. There's been many crashes and there always the crazies who wave flags or shirts right in the riders faces which is very dangerous. I wonder if one day someone is just going to get hit or killed. They need to put some time of barrier around these folks.

My homeland won! Yes! Go you crazy Czechs. I'm betting on Belgium to win today so it's almost a sure thing that Portugal will tie or win. And can the British press try and make the Germany/England game more of a rivalry? I'm always quite amused at the sports writers who still cling to the WW2 analogies.(The Sun). The German press seems a little more sanguine about it.

Although I'm still waiting for the US Men's team to actually get good and qualify. Been waiting for 30 years but as a Chicago sports fan, hope springs eternal.

Although I'm still waiting for the US Men's team to actually get good and qualify. Been waiting for 30 years but as a Chicago sports fan, hope springs eternal.

If there is a time, it is with this group. There are 3-4 guys in the group that have quality - Pulisic is the best, but he is only a little better than the others. Their problem is that they are young, and untested. Pulisic is showing great skill in set pieces, and has a strong touch in the PK.

Paul-of-the-frozen-North, Me too! And I have been to soccer games in Rijeka so I know of which they post. They search backpacks but items seem to get by, Wink, wink. Hubby is optimistic about Monday’s game but not, if and when, they play France. Not many wins against them. Are there any?

I wish I had watch Czechia-Netherlands.

The team refer to themselves as Czech Republic. In fact the vast majority of Czechs eschew the attempt to rename the country as Czechia, it's a very unpopular move. As such, I side with the general populace and refuse to refer to the country as Czechia.

Well, I for one wish the Red Devils the best today, at least the Portuguese will not have to drive far back home if they lose in Sevilla haha 😂

Well, I for one wish the Red Devils the best today, at least the Portuguese will not have to drive far back home if they lose in Sevilla haha

Belgium wins in a hackathon game which saw 2 of the key Belgium players taken out by rough play. The winning goal was strike of power. Lots of fouls, not enough yellow cards, and a possible red was not given (takedown of Hazard by Pepe in a goal-scoring run).

That game wasn't fun at all. At least I won't have to hear about Ronaldo anymore and one wonders how many more injuries can Belgium take.

For those who will be stuck at the office or on the road this week, you can get ESPN's audio play by play on the SirrusXM soccer channel 157.
Another alternative is BBC Radio 5's coverage via the BBC Sounds app, or website. But you need a VPN locating you in the UK for it to work.
I'm not certain of the exact schedule but the second half of some matches have also been showing up on the BBC World Service, no VPN required.

Spain vs Croatia

Probably the best match of the whole tournament, but we'll see! The football gods must have had fun tugging on everyone's heart strings like that 🤣

Former Scotland midfielder Graeme Souness on the Spain vs Croatia match:

"We've been waiting to the competition to come alive and it did tonight. That was a great advert for the Euros. That was a really good performance by Spain and let's enjoy this. Excitement, enjoyment, entertainment and some quality goals, that was the best game in the competition so far."

It just goes to show, since time immemorial, Spain's worst enemy is ourselves, as long as we can come together (and not let in silly own goals), I think we can win the Eurocopa this year 🔴🟡🔴

As I am working I had to go by social media but qué emocionante! Now that’s a game!

Predicting a 1-0 Germany England match-whoever scores first will win. Also it will be like watching paint dry as both teams are cautious. And then they will be crushed by Denmark.

Switzerland-France is giving that game a run for its money! Holy moly! A great day for football!

Kinda crazy how eerily similar the two games today have been lol!

Croatia came to play, and was greatly helped early by the Spanish goalie. #espanowngoala

After that amazing mistake, Croatia did not come hard to take advantage. Only when they were down 3-1 did the quality show. Croatia came back from 3-1 down in the extra time to force the tie, and extra time.

Spain scored 6 goals. They deserved the win.

Now watching France-Switzerland. Pogba, a player past his prime, scored an exceptional long-range goal to go to 3-1. Switzerland came back AGAIN from a 3-1 score to force overtime. Switzerland has outplayed Les Blues and may win. It is now an injury in the overtime, and everyone is happy to drink water for a minute. Pogba, a player past his prime, scored an exceptional long-range goal to go to 3-1. No side is showing quality in this over time as they are gassed.

With 5 min to go, little indication that this will NOT go to PKs. Helvetica just squandered their good chance. Now a set piece - wasted. Good stop by Swiss keeper. Now a set piece for Helvetica from 7 M. Last chance for a regular time winner. Now PKs -

AND FRANCE LOSES 5-4 on PKs. The miss is by Mbappe, the #10. Great stop by the Helvetica keeper.

Penalties now, oh my God!!! Absolutely nerve-wracking last 10 minutes. And I thought it could not get better than Spain vs Croatia wow

The Swiss live to fight another day! Awesome! When soccer is good, it is the most exciting sport!

Good win Carlos. Hubby was rooting for Croatia but knew it would have been an upset.

Two games, 14 goals: "Magic Monday" was today the best day in Eurocup history?

BBC article about today's historic games: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57646653

Two games went to extra time after late goals overturned 3-1 deficits in extraordinary fashion and there were 14 goals in total - the second most in the competition's history.

Last Wednesday there were 18 goals across four games but today's 240 minutes of drama gave that record a good run for its money.

In Copenhagen, there was a bizarre own goal, late heroics from substitutes and "broken hearts" at full-time. In Bucharest, there was a wonder goal, a penalty shootout and a giantkilling.

Respect to Switzerland today, they pulled off a herculean achievement, simply put, it was football in its purest form!

well well well

1966!!!

Bring on Ukraine or Sweden

we're off to Rome!!

YES!!!!

Is it coming home?

Potentially, but my guess is England make it to the final, only to be crushed by Italy, Spain, or Belgium, whoever passes on the vastly more difficult side of the bracket. Time will tell, but I'm glad England triumphed today, the same old tactics were not serving the Germans very well, a sad end to the historic Joachim Löw era.

So alas it was the bad Germany team that showed up today. Not surprising. England still don’t look Great and a decent team like Denmark or Spain will be difficult but fair points for winning at home.

My only two picks left are Belgium and Spain with Belgium injured at an alarming rate.

Added-SweUkr game finale was like Game of Theones with players getting picked off one by one. Exciting and a last minute goal for Ukraine. I see a lot of England fans downplaying Ukraine but I have a funny feeling they might just win.

... a sad end to the historic Joachim Löw era.

Who can replace him on the sideline?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv1dl4QAFRQ

After an epic two days of historic football, the round of 16 comes to a close, and the quarter finals begin this Friday! Olé, Olé, Olé!!! 🔴🟡🔴

Eurocopa Quarterfinals (for our American friends in EST)

Friday, July 2
Switzerland vs. Spain, 12 p.m. (ESPN)
Belgium vs. Italy, 3 p.m. (ABC)

Saturday, July 3
Czech Republic vs. Denmark, 12 p.m. (ESPN)
Ukraine vs. England, 3 p.m. (ABC)

The US might actually watch the England-Ukr match on ABC(free channel).

I will make my final prediction but Denmark will be in the semi-finals and possibly finals.

Everyone else it's a tossup.

Finally, is booing the other team's National Anthem a thing in soccer?

Booing is a thing by a subset of neanderthals who " follow" England.

As far as I can see our grown up neighbours in mainland Europe don't do it.

No it is not, the booing of the German anthem today in London was quite shameful on the part of those English fans, rarely seen on the continent at this level of play.

Unfortunately hooliganism has been a part of English footballing culture for as long as I can remember.

The booing of the German national anthem was most likely a direct result of the English FA demanding that the fans did not boo the anthem or boo when players "take the knee". Booing national anthems has never really been a part of English football so it was interesting that it occurred on this occasion. As far as hooliganism is concerned it's all but wiped out in the domestic game. Elements of it do remain on an international level but nowadays the reputation of the fans doesn't tally with the reality, hooliganism is a bigger problem on the continent.

The booing of the anthem was pretty pronounced and not generally a thing.

Sad for us here in Germany, but our team didn't bring their A-game. It's nice that this was not the disaster of 2018, but still disappointing.

Rooting for Denmark now. And for fun games to watch!

Booing of other nations anthems is habitual by a core of supporters.
As lifelong football supporter there have been plenty of times English support has disgraced the country.

If the worst thing that happens is the booing of the anthem of other countries, that's not so bad. Better than throwing bananas at black players, eh?

The FA also urged England fans not to sing 'Ten German Bombers', a favourite amongst certain England fans when playing Germany. At least that request appears to have been heeded as I didn't hear it, either that or it was drowned out by the cheers of more tolerant fans.

Nope, I heard it. But not prominently.

The same people who boo the anti racism gestures are the same people who boo the opposition’s national anthem. But there’s no cure for stupid. I’d like to say they were in a minority, but within the confines of the stadium I’m not too sure.

Watch the anthem and you will hear that it is a pretty large percentage.

Switzerland misses 3 of 5 penalties to lose to Spain. How can professionals miss penalty shots? Inexcusable.

I'm really surprised Spain actually pulled off a win today, with the way they have been playing the whole match!

Yes, Spain were poor. Italy won by a nose again, which is no suprise as Chiellini was back in the line up. I love that guy.

After the Germany game ,tv showed a young German girl in floods of tears with her dad at the stadium.
It was put up on the big screen to cheers of some england supporters.

Anyhow there's a GoFundMe set up to show not all fans are like that and it stands at over £20,000

Ok Spain, since Belgium flamed out(le sigh), it's between them and Spain in my last picks. I'm part Czech but didn't think they'd get this far so if they make it to the finals-I'll know to pick underdogs next time. I'll be cheering Denmark as well.

Happy Denmark won today. Watching England v Ukraine now. I’m kind of on the fence on what country I would pick to win the Euro cup but leaning toward either Italy or Denmark. Love watching football - I am a huge Seattle Sounders fan. Looking forward to getting back to the stadium and anticipating the back to back women and men Seattle clubs play the Portland clubs on August 29.

England 3-0 up after 50 mins

Wheres the angst and penalty shootouts!

This is all very strange indeed

Que sera, sera
Whatever will be, will be
We're going to Wemberlee...
Que sera sera....

Turning the TV off now as it has become lopsided. Happy to move on to the semi-finals where my last pick Spain will probably flame out. My money is still on Denmark winning it all.

Italy vs. England will be the final, but my crystal ball does not tell me who will win lol!

Gah. What a dreadful game Ukraine-England. The quality of England was quite unmistakable. Ukraine - how did they get this far? Competence was not all that obvious. Passing quite dreadful, control of pass receptions questionable. Ukraine would make at best 4 passes in a row, and then bumble the ball away.

For England, they must be careful not to walk away with a cocky and overconfident attitude.

Clearly Paul was watching a different match. England were sublime, superb play. England are still the only team in the competition not to concede a goal. I have high hopes for this team.

Spoken like a true Brit. Let them have their moment-with all the other stuff happening over there -Brexit and the Royal Family drama, it's a welcome diversion!

As someone with Scots-Irish heritage, I can't lie. Would be an absolute nightmare if England wins this. We'd never hear the end of it! But having said that, with home field advantage the rest of the way, it's their tournament to lose now. At least Denmark (and Italy, should they beat Spain) will provide stern opposition!

The Spain/Italy game should be exciting if only to see which team flops more. I suspect any player breathed upon will drop to the ground and roll in agony.

England played very well today. It's nice to see Luke Shaw getting some credit he deserves. His career was almost ruined by a horrendous tackle a few years ago, a tackle much more deserving of a red card than some of the reds I've seen bandied about in this tournament. England and Italy have been the two best teams so far, and should make for a good final if they both make it.

Talking of simulation. I streamed the Italy-Belgium game from an Italian source, and the following incident was not highlighted. And the Oscar Goes To:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ciro+immobile+simulation+against+belgium&kac=-1&kae=c&kc=-1&kl=ca-en&kp=1&atb=v92-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DDcUYXWHo4lk

Wheres the angst and penalty shootouts!

Quite, Richard, quite. Didn’t seem like a proper England game with no edge of seat tension, or watching through your fingers for the final half hour.

Italy clearly cheating. They are playing Lazarus up front!

I see a lot of England fans downplaying Ukraine but I have a funny feeling they might just win.

Probably just wind.

Only thing that can stop england is the ,"curse of ITV" who have the rights for the semi final
Think it's 21 tournament games they have covered and england have won 4.

Two of thier lead analysts being Irish and Scots ( Keane and Souness) has alsorts of possiblities.
Might rely on auntie Beeb radio5

Richard - Oh no, ITV are doing England v Denmark?

We’re doomed.

It was all going so well, too.

Ian

Not pretty reading.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/sport/football/itv-curse-england-record-bbc-compared-euro-2020-denmark-1086532/amp

I'm an Anglophile but I'm cheering on Denmark this time, especially as we'll never hear the end of the winning over the EU.

I'm also cheering on my last pick Spain but acknowledge that Italy is probably the better team right now.

The semifinals are here!! Let's see if we can pull off a miracle, but I think Spain has the worst odds of the final four, but who cares lol! Plus ultra! 🔴🟡🔴

(for our American friends to enjoy)

Tuesday, July 6
Italy vs. Spain, 3 p.m. EST (ESPN)

Wednesday, July 7
England vs. Denmark, 3 p.m. EST (ESPN)

Italy on PKs.

Ah Spain, I knew you would lose but to lose on penalties...

It was an exciting game though and a good reason that both Denmark/England should not take a win for granted against Italy. They are a plucky team-even if the dives were OTT. That and they seem to be exceedingly lucky in winning against better teams.

Will tomorrow be as exciting? Who knows?!

These penalties are going to kill me one of these days, but at least we lost to the sure winners of the Eurocopa this year!

I enjoyed watching the Italy/Spain match today and want to see Italy play Denmark. Pretty sure Denmark will beat out England. Crossing fingers though

Anybody here planning to be in Europe during the World Cup playoff matches? And where would you go to watch a match or two? Pub in London, beer hall in Munich, pub somewhere in Scotland?

Anybody here planning to be in Europe during the World Cup playoff matches? And where would you go to watch a match or two? Pub in London, beer hall in Munich, pub somewhere in Scotland?

My favorite place has been Zagreb. There is Jelicic Square in the middle of town, and many streets radiate out from there. They all have bars. They set up TVs outdoors, there are seats (get there early), waitresses to bring beer or whatever. It's a lot of fun. I've watched 2 games there in 2017 and 2019, and both were a hoot.

Spain certainly controlled most of the play last night, I was wondering where that Spain team had been hiding all tournament? I'm glad Italy pulled it out, just one ore win to go now...DAI RAGAZZI!

Anybody here planning to be in Europe during the World Cup playoff matches? And where would you go to watch a match or two? Pub in London, beer hall in Munich, pub somewhere in Scotland?

Apart from the obvious question of whether to boycott the 2022 World Cup there will also be a distinctly different feel to watching the games given that it will be played in winter (for the Northern Hemisphere) and therefore the usual crowds of fans in outdoor spaces will be relatively absent.

As for watching the games, I think the fact that a staggering 6,500 migrant workers have died to date whilst building the world cup infrastructure is enough to stop me from watching. You've got to have pretty thick skin to continue to give tacit support to a regime that facilitates such appalling treatment.

Leaving aside the 2022 political question (though it is worth discussing and you raise excellent points) and that of the time of year, here are some thoughts on where to watch:

If it's about big crowds, public viewing squares exist in most major cities, especially for the favourite teams. If you are in those big squares, expect to be standing the whole game with limited options for ordering more drinks or going to the bathroom (some, but mostly limited to stands and porta-potties around the edges). But the atmosphere, particularly for young people or highly energetic and passionate fans, is amazing if your team wins.

Finding a pub with outdoor seating, a good screen, on a side square or a major boulevard is another great way to watch in a fun but more relaxed atmosphere. Being able to sit, order another round, and go the bathroom but still cheer with others is definitely a more appealing option as I get older.

What DOES matter is being with fans of the home team. So if you are watching in a city where the home team isn't even in the tournament, it's very different from watching France win the title in Paris. But "neutral" games can be super fun, too, just in a different way--but I would say they are still better when the home team is still in it. And if you can be in a host nation, even if you aren't attending the games, it's amazing.

Key is to bring an attitude of good sportsmanship and an energy that can still enjoy a day out even if the home team loses.

I watched the knockout stages of WC2006 in Germany, most of Euro 2008 in Germany, most of Euro 2016 in Germany/Iceland, and WC 2018 in Germany. Here are some highlights.

WC 2006 quarterfinals in Stuttgart, public viewing square: Germany was hosting, the energy was the highest I've ever seen--the entire nation was in football fever--and I was younger. The Germany-Argentina penalty shootout was insane--100,000 people holding their breath simultaneously! Celebrating a German win made it even more fun, but it would have been amazing either way (watching Germany lose in Hamburg a few days later was also fun, but it's way better when the home team wins). After the game there was music, people dancing in the streets draped in flags of all nations, and just a great party atmosphere. The next night we joined in the crowds cheering for Portugal and Brazil. Brazil lost, but the Brazilian visitors didn't get too down and provided a party atmosphere for all anyway!

Euro 2016 group stage in Iceland, but not during a home team game: Ingolfur Square had tables set up by a big screen. The home team was still in it, so there was a vested interest in who won, but not a passionate one or clear favourites. We ended up at a table with someone from Turkey while Turkey was playing, so we decided to root for them, but it was a casual choice. Lots of people just enjoying soccer, some of them cheering for their team, some of them just wanting a good game, picnic tables with food and drink options and a chance for conversation. The entire nation was in football fever, so that was cool.

Euro 2016 quarterfinal in Hamburg, public viewing square: Watching a rivalry like Germany-Italy go to PKs is always exciting, but the "crowd" was quite small due to the rain. But everyone who stuck it out to see the home team win enjoyed it. Only for hardened fans, and people probably had just as much fun watching indoors in a pub or something.

Euro 2016 in a small town in Germany, public square: It was a "standing room" public viewing event, but there were places selling drinks around the edge and the "crowd" of a few hundred was small and intimate. People were together, and they mostly knew each other. Super fun even though Germany lost.

WC 2018, Hamburg: After Germany's debacle or a performance, we had a great time watching England at the local English pub on a square. Lots of dancing and singing, tables/seating, food and drinks, and of course it helped that the weather was nice.

It will be interesting to see how it is watched. My German friends say that you can't be a public viewing party. However, given the temperature in December, it might not be as fun. Any pub or restaurant will show the games in Europe but it will be interesting as it is right in the middle of Christmastime.

As far as Qatar, I have very mixed feelings. As an American, I love the World Cup but it seems lately that they are awarding it to countries with numerous human rights violations-Russia, Qatar, etc.

Quite apart from the question of Human rights in Qatar, they should never have been awarded the tournament because they have virtually no history of football, have never qualified for the World cup (at the time of being awarded the 2022 tournament, they were ranked 113th)

Interestingly, the last four sides in the Euros all rank quite closely together - England 4th, Spain 6th, Italy 7th and Denmark 10th.
As for Italy "... seem to be exceedingly lucky in winning against better teams." - They've not lost in 29 games and have beaten the Worlds's top side (Belgium) on their way to the final. Up until last night they were the only side to have won all their games. I think they win the tournament , and have done since seeing their first game.

C'mon England!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-57752228

What DOES matter is being with fans of the home team. So if you are watching in a city where the home team isn't even in the tournament, it's very different from watching France win the title in Paris. But "neutral" games can be super fun, too, just in a different way--but I would say they are still better when the home team is still in it. And if you can be in a host nation, even if you aren't attending the games, it's amazing.

On my last trip to Zagreb, I was particularly pleased to see that Croatia would be playing a UEFA qualifier on the last day, after the conference ended. Opponent was Wales. As I noted above, it's fun to watch in Zagreb in the outdoor bars. As Howlin' notes, it's particularly helpful that they have chairs, potties, and waitresses to bring you foaming beers.

So Wife and I headed downtown, we did note a lot of cops in blue groups pretty much all over. We got to the bar area, and found a good tent. Everyone was in red and white, but not the Croatian red checks. Turns out that Wales is red-n-white also, and that for £120 you could get a flight to Zagreb and 3 nights. All the fans, or maybe 90%, were Wales supporters. Mostly fun guys, but they were very disrespectful to the Croatian girls who were foolish enough to come into that area.

Tock tock, tick tock ,3 hours to kickoff

I had no idea of the human toll building the stadium in Qatar was. Unbelievable !

Pumped though for today’s match! Go Denmark!!!! ⚽️

Curse of ITV.

1-0 to Denmark

Halftime - 1-1

Great goal to come back from England. It was called an own-goal, but if the defender had not put it in, Sterling was going to do so. I'm not a Harry Kane fan but his initial pass was a complete wonder.

The goal from the Danish player to go up 1-0 was a true mastershot. Unstoppable. It ended the unscored-upon streak 5 min before it was going to be a record. Disappointing for the English keeper.

Denmark showing strong technical skills and control the ball maybe 70% of the time in the second half. But with 5 min of reg time, score remains 1-1.

Kane should get the Golden Dive prize for creative moves to the floor. He loves the grass.

England converts PK initially stopped by keeper, but rebound goes to Kane who neatly tucks it away. Likely the winner.

And now to 2 15 min of overtime play

Kane converted a PK in the overtime. Denmark could not equalize. Congrats to England. Denmark gave a stiff test, but England prevailed.

Nerves....swapped to BBC radio instead.
Chris Waddle former England player is co commentor and a Wednesday legend

VAR of god.

Well the wait is over, England were last in a final 2 months before I was born.
Denmark had a blistering tournament,did themselves proud.
I am overdue another beer..😃

The curse of ITV has been banished! England played superb, completely dominated the match. Now we need to play the same way against Italy who, let's face it, like to fall over with ease.

It’s a pity that England weren’t knocked out in the first round. I have been away in the caravan throughout the tournament, so there’s no escaping the football on tv by going to another room! Tedious. Can you tell I dislike football?

The English fans booing the Danish national anthem were an embarrassment. Ashamed to be English.

I was listening out for the booing but couldn't hear any. I did hear monotone attempts at singing the anthem that could have been interpreted as booing. I did hear booing at the anthems of Spain and Italy yesterday not to mention the very overt booing of the English anthem by the Scottish so it's by no means confined to English fans however that shouldn't be interpreted as excusing the behaviour.

It’s a pity that England weren’t knocked out in the first round.

You will enjoy the next 4 days, Jennifer. It will be futbol-futbol-futbol all the day long.

Italy vs. England will be the final, but my crystal ball does not tell me who will win lol!

At least my prediction for the final match was right!! I see in my crystal ball now England will lose the final to Italy in penalties.

Ugh. Sorry but I can't cheer for England when the idiots in the stadium boo every other teams anthems. That and the whole "it's coming home" nonsense. Denmark played superb and even gave England a goal as a present! The penalty that lead to the goal was so wrong but I will say the England player mastered the Italian art of diving and took advantage of it. Something that needs to be done in the sport.

I dislike both teams so let the worst team win!:) I would say England has it in the bag but every time I count Italy out they somehow manage to win. Even when there is no possible way on paper that they can.

I guess it's on to the US women's soccer in the Olympics! I like women's soccer because if they fall they get right back up.

There was no booing at the Danish national anthem. There was booing during the game when Denmark had the ball but that's completely different. Besides, I'm not sure why you single out England as booing oppponents national anthems is something many other team's fans do.

As for the game England were far better than Denmark. They had much more possession, they dominated they game, 20 shots on target vs 5. Yes, it was an own goal but the ball was heading straight for the feet of Sterling and would undoubtedly have gone in had it reached him.

Diving and the theatrics of 'injury' are a scourge of the modern game and it's the reason I find myself watching less and less of football however the UEFA officials have clearly been told to be more robust and allow play to continue in the face of exagerated claims. This tactic appears to have worked as there have been fewer dives than expected, players appear to have realised that they're better off staying on their feet and keep on going. That being said there will always be attempts to take advantage of a robust challenge in the penalty box.

The current England team are the best I've seen in a long, long time and you need to understand the history of England and major competitions to appreciate the whole "It's coming home" thing. It's not nonsense, it's simply harmless fun and hope. After the last year or so that we've had what's wrong with having something to look forward to and enjoy?

I felt England were mostly FASTER. They didn't always win duels, but their ability to get counters or stop Danish breakaways based on their speed was what ended up making them look stronger. Once they were playing without speed, the game was pretty even.

Did England deserve the win in terms of play? Yes. Is it sad that it came on that type of penalty? Yes. Was Kasper Schmeichel brilliant? Yes. Did I want Denmark to win? Definitely.

I would have liked a strong statement from Prince William as both a royal and the head of the Football Association on the booing of anthems. That nonsense is just disgusting and unnecessary, and it makes me not want to cheer for England, ever.

At least hoping for a fun and fair final.

I felt England were mostly FASTER. They didn't always win duels, but their ability to get counters or stop Danish breakaways based on their speed was what ended up making them look stronger. Once they were playing without speed, the game was pretty even.

Dunno about the team overall, but I am continually impressed, amazed, and sometimes awed by Raheem Sterling. He is the one who is fast. Time after time, he would have the ball, and while controlling usually superbly, would outrun the defender. He is at the top of his form - quick, creative, and dangerous. His play-making and creative ability made the difference in the game. Kane gets more press, but Sterling is the heart of the team. He does wear #10.

I think the English players are a good team and will have a better running game than the Italians. It's just that "some" fans get carried away and do stupid things. I feel the same about the Spanish fans that make racists chants at minority players.But some of the fans action reflect badly on England, the booing at the anthem and I read that someone shown a laser in the Danish goalkeeper's face.

That said, if England can keep it together and not get tired out by Italy, I think they will take the cup. Just don't miss any penalties!

Kane gets more press, but Sterling is the heart of the team. He does wear #10.

Yes, Kane scores goals but he's slow and doesn't put in anywhere near the work that Sterling does. When you also have the likes of Saka, Walker, Grealish and Sancho, all of whom are fast and can keep the ball you have to have confidence in the team maintaining a high tempo and forward focused game. The last thing they need is to repeat the cautious approach that they took against Scotland because once Italy are given time and space in England's half they become dangerous.

As for the person who shone the laser pen in Schmeicel's face, absolutely disgusting behaviour and they have been widely rounded upon by fans and the media. UEFA have stated that they will impose fines on England for this incident along with the booing of anthems although it's interesting to note that they are not fining any of the other teams whose fans also booed their opponent's anthems. If you're going to mete out punishment then you need to be consistent.

It certainly has been thrilling to watch all this football (Euro Cup and Copa America). I only wish my sides (Spain and Paraguay) had better results.

It's even close to all fans but now would be a great time for the players or Gareth to ask " no more booing anthems".
There's huge goodwill for the players.
Our footballers used to be full time now they are professional athletes some if the players rack up 5/6 miles in the game

Well it looks like England owes thier win more to thier hooligan fans with a dangerous laser aimed at the Danish goalie during the penalty. English fans also caused a disturbance during Denmark's national anthem by setting off fireworks. Really a shame the English monarchy do not speak up about this caveman behaviour, although they like to attend the matches well enough.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57763001

Schmeichel evidently wasn't disturbed by the laser as he managed to save the initial shot! Besides, unless your eyes are in direct line of sight of the laser you won't see it. That's not to excuse the behaviour but it's stretching it a bit to suggest that Kane was successful in slotting in the rebound only because someone shone a laser in Schmeichel's face.

We're also seeing editorials in some parts of the Danish press gloating over the number of Covid deaths in England. What's that all about? At least the German press had the good grace to congratulate England for their win against them. Still, there's none so blind than those who won't see.

I think saying things are worse at club matches doesn't excuse boorish behaviour, and it is absolutely true across the sport and not unique to England (their quasi-host status makes it more visible, though). I also agree that Prince William in particular, as head of the FA, should have spoken out against such behaviour.

And I agree that Sterling is the absolute heart of that team, and I really enjoy watching him as a player.

I love the fans singing songs during the soccer games (wish there are more in the US major sports). But "Sweet Caroline"?

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-red-sox/2021/07/08/why-england-fans-have-been-singing-sweet-caroline-at-euro-2020/

Oh I don't know, first complaints about "Three Lions" (Football's coming home) , now Sweet Caroline.

I've never heard the latter sung at football, although it has been popular at Cricket test matches in the past couple of years..

I'll also defend Three Lions, even if it was sung by two comedians. It's not a triumphalist song - it was the English Anthem of the 1996 European Championship. It's still relevant, even though the "30 years of hurt" is now 55 years. It was also a very popular song with fans of German clubs for a while - probably missing the point because of their national teams successes.

Three Lions on a shirt
Jules Rimet still gleaming
Thirty years of hurt
Never stopped me dreaming

"Sweet Caroline"? Sounds from a Baltimore Orioles game. "O O O" - those poor fans have to sing about something.
Maybe the "O O O" is the Orioles' score line?
What's that about football?
I do like how Crystal Palace fans sing "Glad All Over", but I don't think Dave Clark supports that side...he's from Tottenham.

The football supporters borrowed "Swing low ,sweet chariot " for a while.
Not sure where we are politically with it's use now.
I dare say it might baffle the anti knee contingent.

3 Lions is a great song ,which the German supporters gleefully sang at Wembley after knocking out England in 96.
Just perfect.

For a real club anthem with killer lyrics ,check out Hibs winning the Scottish Cup at Hampden.
Think they had lost 7 Finals over the previous win 114 years earlier.

https://youtu.be/lt26StUVHoc

Thanks richard, for posting the Hib's video. I've never seen it - wow.

Of course, if you want to hear a National Anthem, then you can't do much better than this from 2017 (just skip the first 15 seconds).

Laugh, so how many times have you watched it and did you sing along?
There was an even better version up for a while think it was BBC copyright.

Our national anthem is definitely a runner up against the other home nations

Love the Welsh anthem and the Scottish too, better than our dirge, however rugby fans sing it better.

Although technically sufficiently welsh to be able to represent the country (had I been any good at any sort) , my linguistic skills are limited to:
"My hen laid a haddock, one hand oiled a flea,
Glad farts and centurions threw dogs in the sea" etc.

It's the day before the EuroCup final so place your bets. I'm just hoping for an exciting final. I'm reasonably certain that England can win however I've counted out Italy in most games when they've been behind and they alway manage to somehow power through and win.

Two certainties will be that Wembley will be loud and there will be Oscar-worthy performances of Italian diving. Will the English win and give their fans a bank holiday or will it be "Veni, Vidi, Vici" for the Italians?

Forget the Euros, Argentina vs. Brazil is this weekend's big matchup lol!! Yes but in seriousness, today's Copa América final between hosts Brazil and eternal rivals Argentina will be the match I am most anticipating.

This will be the best and perhaps only chance for Messi to win a major title for Argentina, my heart is with Argentina but my brain is with Brazil, let's see who wins it tonight!

Brazil vs Argentina Copa America final: Today (Saturday, July 10) - 8 p.m. EST on ESPN via Sling or Fubo.TV

PS: I still predict that Italy will win tomorrow on PKs, but we will see!

The FA has been fined €30,000 for the disturbances during the England-Denmark match.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57788267

Badger-

I take Guardian news with a grain of salt but given eye-witness accounts of the match, I'm hoping better security is on-hand. Apparently lots of British sat on the Danes side and during and after the game yelled at the Danish fans/some with children. Now I know that these things happen but screaming Denmark sucks at 9 year olds is stupidity.

And Carlos, I will be cheering on Argentina as well, though Brazil is pretty formidable. I actually like Messi so hopefully he can help them win.

heather-

I'm not sure what your opinion of the Guardian has to do with the subject, but unfortunately English fans has a history of behaving like idiots. It happened after England-Germany as well: https://www.news.com.au/sport/football/english-football-fans-slammed-for-disgusting-response-to-young-german-girls-tears/news-story/a5061a57fdaf081ef1caed4cef53950d (Although it has not been as bad this year as 2016 when a couple of English fans ended up in prison for their actions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO_Un-lKwPM )

Badger, let's not pretend that hooliganism is confined to English fans. It's fair to say that it's a bigger problem on the continent not least with Swedish 'Ultra firms' including DFG and AIK. In fact the Swedish government had to bring in anti hooligan legislation to ban the wearing of balaclavas and face masks to which some hooligans managed to circumvent by wearing niqabs.

I'm not condoning the behaviour of some of the English fans but it is pretty galling when you read press reports from other European countries (typically those that have been dumped from the tournament) berating English fans whilst conveniently disregarding the behaviour of some of their own fans. Football has a problem with hooliganism pretty much everywhere that it's played, very few countries are in a position to be critical about other fans behaviour.

To put this back on a lighter note before the mods close this thread, I thought this was amusing.

A message from the Italian community in England

And after watching the Argentina team win last night on Univision, the Spanish broadcasters make games more exciting.

I guess Jamie Oliver's remaining (?) restaurants are safe for some strange reason.

Saw the game last night, Messi finally won a major trophy with Argentina. As with Spain against Italy, Brazil dominated possession but were totally lacking where it mattered.

There are lunatic fringes everywhere, going back decades. Although they appear to be more prominent there, riots, fighting and knifings are not restricted to the UK. In the early 2000's Germany established a task force to deal with football violence. The fans of Athens teams are constantly at it, as are the fans of Roma and Lazio. Hajduk Split and Dinamo Zagreb supporters have all-out wars on the streets.

Tick tock ,tick tock..2 hours to go.

Facepaint sellers and football shirt sellers are obviously the biggest winners in my town
Going to be plenty of folk be nursing sore heads and sore throats by end of the game.

The Guardian have a price about the "backstage" stars of Euro 2020 ,the German girl got a mention.
She donated the £36,000 raised for her as a goodwill gesture to UNICEF.

Rather like in the London Olympics at one stage ,YORKSHIRE was 4th in the medal table it's just about possible half the England team today could be from the broad acres.

Hoping Italia wins today or the English are going to be making dvds of this for the next century 🙄

Tock tock ,tick tock, an hour to go .
Couple of convoys of cars have gone by and there's lots of singing in the street

"Hoping Italia wins today or the English are going to be making dvds of this for the next century 🙄"

Only until we start making DVD's of our World Cup win next year :-)

It's coming home......

Grande Italia!! It's coming Rome??!

Sigh.........next time

no worries - we'll just have to win the World Cup instead

Well done Italy who adapted very well, and probably deserved to win overall.

I think England got their tactics wrong, should have pressed home advantage in first half while on top.
Three youngsters ending up taking penalties at the end - huge pressure and all missed.

Oh well. Amazing to think England got to the final, didn't lose a game in normal play, and I am still disappointed.

Super Italia!! They disrespected your national anthem, they invaded the pitch, they stormed the stadium and still you persevered and won, much respect from Spain!

IT'S COMING TO ROME!!!
England did well but I'm not sure why they put two 19 year olds for penalty kicks. The pressure is enormous for anyone and I did feel sorry for Salah(?) at the end as he was crying and probably felt horrible
I knew never to count out Italy as they have come from behind almost every game this tournament.

I had mixed feelings today, obviously wanted England to win but after hearing first hand experience from a friend in London regarding the disgraceful and disgusting behaviour from many England fans I actually wanted us to lose just to spite those creatures. It serves only to reinforce my preference for rugby. I was hoping for an England win just to stick a finger up at a significant proportion of the European press for their petulant and pathetic reference to Brexit at every opportunity, why does it bother them so much?

I have watched most of the matches this year and am impressed by both teams and most of all the referees (is that the right word?) who seemed to be ignoring some of the drama on the field. I enjoyed all the matches and most enjoyed reliving fond memories of being in Europe for the 2008 and 2010 Euro Cup and the World Cup. It was so much fun and ignited my love for Football.

The referees and other officials have been superb this tournament, their decisions have had a noticeable effect on diving and dubious foul claims.

Only ever win under Labour governments.

Azzuri, Bravo Bravo. Pleased to see the Poms go down, again.

Regards

The Antipodes

To go for 88 min without extending is a mark of low quality. Sterling disappointed. Kane was his usual tired, uncreative self. Without garbage goals, he'd have nothing to contribute.

"I knew never to count out Italy as they have come from behind almost every game this tournament."

Strange comment - the final was the first time the Italians had been behind in the entire tournament.
They won all three group games without conceeding, they were never behind against Austria, Belgium or Spain.

Azzuri, Bravo Bravo. Pleased to see the Poms go down, again.

How's Tasmania doing for the World Cup?

Cricket is a pastime ,

Richard - I’m shocked! You are from Yorkshire - cricket is a religion!

On to bigger and better things. The reactions last night still show how far soccer has to go in dealing with racism-it seems like it's the last sport where people can use racist language. However, I don't think RS forum is the place to do it.

Hopefully we will have a new thread at the World Cup 2022 though I'm still not thrilled about the venue. Will be interesting to see if there are any protests or boycotts. Who knows maybe the US will actually make it into the quarter finals again.

I've been a football fan for many years, a season ticket holder at an English club for over 25 years. I've watched football in many countries and been lucky enough to attend one major tournament, and several other internationals. I love the game and being part of a crowd.

Unfortunately, football has far more than it's fair share of knuckle draggers. In most countries it acts as a magnet for a certain type of person - often working class, poorly educated, easily lead and of certain political views. In Italy, some clubs support is openly fascist. Certainly among the fans of my club there are far more followers of Tommy Robinson and extremist politics than in the general population.

The reaction of other England fans to the loss of the final, the racism directed at players etc really has taken the gloss off of what, otherwise was a very enjoyable tournament. Italy were deserved winners - the games against Belgium and Spain were probably the games of the competition.

This thread has been fun. I enjoy watching the game at a high level.

The regrettable actions of a number of dummies do not detract from the good things on the field.

The WC is coming. I have great hopes for the USA team. It has the power of youth. As they say, "age and treachery overcome youth and strength". If that's true, Argentina will win. The USA team will make the field (which has been expanded), and will do well, but I doubt they will get beyond the round of 16. In 2026, I will expect great things from the USA team. Christian Pulisic, if he gains 20 lbs, will be a force by then. There are 10 more up and coming players between 18-23 who have been "written up in dispatches", as they say. I have hopes. Mostly I hope to be alive to watch Pulisic's career.

"The WC is coming. I have great hopes for the USA team."
Yes, so do I...we're talking about the Women's Team, right?

Meanwhile, England beat Italy to win the Grand Slam in the Under 20's Six Nations Cup. Rugby, a game that you can enjoy without all the mindless violence and racism from the moronic brigade.