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Epic 21-Day Adventure in Bavaria, Austria & the Dolomites – Need Your Expert Tips!

Dear Travel Experts,

We (two Malaysian ladies) are going to Bavaria, Austria, and the Dolomites in early September! As nature lovers who adore scenic landscapes, charming villages, and easy hikes.

We’ll be traveling on a budget, using public transport, and staying in hostels or Airbnbs, with a daily budget of €160 per person. While we’re not particularly interested in museums or opera, we love leisurely strolls, immersing ourselves in local culture, and occasionally treating ourselves to regional specialties.
We’d love your expert advice on our itinerary:

Day 1-4: Munich & Day Trips
Day 1: Arrive in Munich
Explore Marienplatz, English Garden, and Elisabethmarkt
Dinner at Augustiner Bräustuben for a local Bavarian experience

Day 2: Neuschwanstein Castle & Füssen
Train to Füssen (~2 hours, Bayern Ticket ~€27)
Visit Neuschwanstein Castle & scenic Alpsee Lake

Day 3: Berchtesgaden & Königssee
Train to Berchtesgaden (~2.5 hours)
Boat ride on Königssee to St. Bartholomä
Short hike to Malerwinkel for stunning views

Day 4: Munich to Tegernsee
Visit Nymphenburg Palace Gardens & Westpark
Train to Tegernsee (~1 hour) for a scenic lake retreat

Day 5-7: Tegernsee & Bamberg
Day 5: Tegernsee
Relaxing walk along Tegernsee Lake
Take the Wallbergbahn cable car for panoramic mountain views
Enjoy a local meal at Brauhaus Tegernsee

Day 6: Travel to Bamberg & Explore
Train to Bamberg (~3 hours)
Visit Little Venice, Altes Rathaus & Bamberg Cathedral

Day 7: Bamberg to Rothenburg ob der Tauber
Morning stroll through Bamberg’s Old Town
Train to Rothenburg ob der Tauber (~2 hours)
Explore Plönlein & medieval town walls

Day 8-12: Rothenburg → Salzburg & Surroundings
Day 8: Rothenburg ob der Tauber
Visit Burggarten for a scenic picnic
Try local bakeries for pretzels & Schneeballen pastries

Day 9: Rothenburg to Salzburg
Morning in Rothenburg
Train to Salzburg (~4 hours)

Day 10: Salzburg
Explore Mirabell Gardens, Getreidegasse & Kapuzinerberg
Sunset views from Mönchsberg

Day 11: Day Trip – Hallstatt or Wolfgangsee
Option 1: Wolfgangsee (ferry ride & lakeside walk)
Option 2: Hallstatt (iconic lakeside village)

Day 12: Salzburg to Berchtesgaden (Klausbach Valley Hike)
Train to Berchtesgaden (~50 min)
Bus to Klausbach Valley (Ramsau)
Easy Alpine hike with rivers & meadows

Day 13-15: Garmisch-Partenkirchen
Day 13: Travel to Garmisch-Partenkirchen

Train from Berchtesgaden (~3.5 hours)
Visit Partnach Gorge (easy scenic hike)
Relax at Ludwigstraße

Day 14: Zugspitze & Eibsee
ake the Bavarian Zugspitze Railway (~€60 round trip)
Easy scenic walk around Eibsee Lake

Day 15: Travel to Bolzano (Dolomites Base)
Train from Garmisch to Bolzano (~3.5 hours)
Walk around Piazza Walther & explore Bolzano’s old town

Day 16-18: Dolomites (Base in Bolzano)
Day 16: Alpe di Siusi (Seiser Alm)
Bus to Seis am Schlern (~40 min)
Cable car to Alpe di Siusi (Europe’s largest high-altitude meadow)
Easy scenic hike & return to Bolzano
Day 17: Val di Funes & Santa Maddalena

Train to Bressanone/Brixen, then bus to Val di Funes (~1.5 hours)
Walk through Santa Maddalena village with Odle Peaks backdrop
Day 18: Seceda

Train to Ortisei, then cable car to Seceda
Day 19-21: Vienna & Wachau Valley
Day 19: Travel to Vienna

Train from Bolzano to Vienna (~7 hours)
Explore St. Stephen’s Cathedral, Graben & Rathausplatz

Day 20: Day Trip to Wachau Valley
Scenic train ride along the Danube River
Visit Dürnstein

Day 21: Departure from Vienna

Additional Question:
We’re thinking of adding Prague & Cesky Krumlov to our trip. Would it feel too rushed and how to go about it ? Which is more scenic Hallstatt or Wolfgangsee?

We’d love to hear your feedback and any recommendations! Thank you in advance

Posted by
28965 posts

I don't see how you can productively add more destinations. As it is, you are either changing bases or taking a day trip almost every day. You have mere hours allocated to Vienna.

From the budgetary standpoint, I'd recommend researching transportation costs, starting with the lifts/trains/buses in the mountain locations. They may be more expensive than you are anticipating.

Posted by
202 posts

Wow! You have this trip well planned out. I agree with the other poster that it would be hard to add additional locations. I would like to suggest a modification to your plans. Berchtesgaden is not very far from Salzburg, so I think it might save some back and forth if you take a look at combining those two regions together.
Have a great trip!

Posted by
1889 posts

cheng2simee,
What acraven said. Does your 160 euros per person per day include your lodgings, meals, transportation between locations and entrance fees? Or is that merely for lodging and meals? If for everything, I believe it is not enough for what you want to do. You are doing a lot of moving around. Try to calculate your transportation costs; you may find you need to up your budget or reduce your traveling around and staying longer in fewer places.
If you want to include Prague and Cesky Krumlov, you will probably have to rethink your whole trip.

I wish you luck in your planning.

Posted by
3086 posts

So you didn't go on a similar trip last fall? https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/austria/urgent-assistance-needed-planning-our-trip There was some good advice in that thread.

I agree that you are moving around quite a lot and that your budget is probably unrealistic especially in bigger cities and popular towns (Munich, Vienna, Hallstatt). September is no longer "off season" and you will pay more especially if you run into any Oktoberfest dates. By your itinerary it looks like you'll be in transit or on a train for a very large chunk of your visit - for example on Day 2 (a day when jet lag hits me hardest) you have 4+ hours on the train to/from Munich and you only have part of an arrival day dedicated to Munich proper (it merits more). I can't see how you could add anywhere else. Best of luck to you in your planning.

Posted by
1707 posts

Hello:

I visited Malaysia more than a decade ago and really enjoyed its food. Your itinerary reflects your thoughtful research. However, as mentioned, 160 euros per person is very difficult because this part of Europe is expensive. In fact, it's only less expensive than Norway, Iceland, and Switzerland.

Some of walks, such as the Santa Maddalena trail, are challenging. I don't know your physical condition, but you will need to take all this into account. Also, you should allow some more breaks as you are covering a lot of grounds and your body would wear out, regardless of your age. Sometimes, less is more. You want to do more enjoying and less moving around.

Posted by
1858 posts

It makes little sense to visit Berchtesgaden from Munich when it is much closer to Salzburg.
Generally speaking, you have too many destinations. I would drop at least Bamberg and Rothenburg and devote more days to other destinations. You will be sparing some money but also sparing yourself, as your pace would leave you quite tired. it does not make sense to move all the way to Vienna and not to have time there.

Posted by
2704 posts

Rather than hostels ( I wrote an article on hostels for a bicycle magazine 50 years ago ! ) and Airbnb, stay at small inns and ‘privat zimmer ‘. A great place to find these places are the town website which will usually have the format www.town name.de. The town wikipedia article also will list it. The town websites should list ALL the accomodations. My wife and I travel in Germany for about 150 Euro for both of us. Last trip we did not do as much and only spentbabout 120 E per day.

In Rothenburg, consider staying at Haus Karin. www.haus-karin.eu

Posted by
7347 posts

Stephen's suggestion for looking/booking at the local tourist office websites is a solid one. His link to Haus Karin demonstrates the value of his strategy. A double with breakfast at €60, multiplied times even just a few days, assuming you can find similar places elsewhere, will go a very long way toward meeting your budget goal!

Stephen and I might be fraternal twins... shoestring travel, Privatzimmer, hostels, 5 decades... 'cept I am no serious bicyclist. DJH Hostels (the official ones) have changed drastically in that time; modern 2-6-bed rooms with private bath are the rule now, but prices have skyrocketed. Privatzimmer in Germany have changed too. Used to be that you had to hit the TI office to find out about them, but most are online somewhere now. Decades ago, Privatzimmer did not mean private bathrooms, but most have them now. That said, they are becoming scarcer and scarcer. Still worth a look on the TI websites, however, where you will also find private apartments, home rentals which are often not be available on commercial sites like VRBO or AirBnB - and sometimes very reasonable.

Sometimes the town name + .de does not produce the town's Tourism pages directly and/or does not offer English pages. Take the Rhine town of BACHARACH for example. www.bacharach.de gets you to the town's website for all matters - in German - but you must scroll down or use the index to find the word "TOURISMUS". At other town websites you may get lucky and find "Tourist Information" which happens to be both English AND German. Alternatively, you can use the sites search feature using the German words like below...

Unterkunft (accommodation)
Unterkünfte (plural)
Unterkunftsverzeichnis (accommodation directory)
ÜBERNACHTEN (to overnight)
Gastgeber (hosts)
Ferienwohnung (vacation rental)
Ferienappartement (small vacation apartment)
Privatzimmer
Private Gästezimmer (private guest rooms)

My Bacharach noodling took me eventually to this page, managed by a REGIONAL TI office, which lists Privatzimmer in Bacharach AND a couple of other nearby towns :

https://rhein-nahe-touristik.de/gastgeber/privatzimmer/

Not surprisingly, I located the "Irmgard Orth" operation in Bacharch on this page, a place Stephen has often stayed and recommends, where a double with breakfast goes for €55.

I checked a place I stayed years ago near Bacharach in St. Goar at the St. Goar website. It's a small, simple, 1-room apartment on the main street big enough for two, with kitchenette and private bath (no breakfast) that is still listed at €35/night.

So with a bit of intelligent sleuthing, perhaps you will turn up some similar finds in the places that interest you.

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"Explore Marienplatz, English Garden, and Elisabethmarkt"

I would think it would be great if you went to the Elisabethmarkt. This way you would explore a beautiful piece of Schwabing (district of Munich). But I'm assuming that you mean the Viktualienmarkt near Marienplatz.