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Eastern Europe (Seeking 2 Cities for 10 days each). Food - Wine - People Watcher

Eastern Europe (Seeking 2 Cities for 10 days each). Food - Wine - Blending into the culture - relaxing - reading - coffee houses - pubs

I am not a hotel hopper - I like to stay in one place - normally for 2 weeks. this time we have 3 weeks and I will be alone most of the first week. I am seeking two countries in central/eastern europe that do not require a visa with a us passport. My husband will join me, but the location will be a surprise until the day he completes his 2 month walk about in europe.

I have been to paris, rome, dublin, london, munich, salzburg - out of those, I liked a small arrondisement in paris best - less touristy.

I love architectural beauty, but I am really seeking a relaxing vacation - I work a lot so resting a lot is a big part of the vacation - so if you might not stay more than 5 days in one city, I would be happy with 10 days.

THE KEY IS THE TIMING - MID NOVEMBER - also, i prefer to take public transportation rather than rent a car - but once my husband joins me - he can drive to the country or whatever - i am getting an international driving permit for both of us just in case.

SO - WHAT ARE THE BEST 2 CITIES in central/east - they can be tiny cities - they do not need to be the major cities.

help ;)

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Prague and Budapest. Both eye candies with architectural beauty. Easy to get around. Easy direct connection between them: plane, train, bus.

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I don't know what you mean by Eastern Europe. I consider Prague and Budapest to be Central Europe.
Weather can get a littly iffy in mid-November, so I'd probably stick to the bigger cities. Put me in for Budapest and Bratislava. Day trips can be made out of either, and the countryside surrounding them is nice. Vienna is only 39 miles from Bratislava, and it's an easy bus ride into the city for a day.
If you were really wanting to go to Eastern Europe, I'd suggest Bucharest. There are some relatively inexpensive private drivers from Bucharest that can take you into the interior of the country for a few days--and show you some incredible back roads experiences.

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Okay, one is a no-brainer; Budapest. Budapest like Paris, is mostly about the atmosphere. If you enjoyed a small arrondisement in Paris, then you would enjoy making home in Budapest's 6th, 7th, 8th or 12th district.

The second one is tougher. I have answers because what you describe is pretty much what I travel for as well. But if i were to tell someone that i could spend a week or more in Kiev or Sofia they would tell me i am nuts. But, those would be the two i would choose from. Smaller? In warmer weather i would say Perast or Sigisoara or Plovdiv or Nessebar.... but in the winter i want the indoor social life and theater that comes with larger cities. Maybe Lviv? I haven't been there yet, but i am going this winter for a week, so it must have something that attracts me. Prague? Not to explore and relax. Way too many tourists and way to many Czechs too fed up with too many tourists...... But otherwise beautiful.

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David - I agree it is Central - but most call it Eastern so I go with it. Bratislava and Vienna make sense.

Here is what I am thinking...
--Fly San Francisco to Vienna
--10 days Vienna
--Train to Bratislava
--2 days Bratislava
--Train to Budapest
-- 10 days Budapest
Fly to San Francisco

Until James said Lviv and my husband would NEVER guess that one as the surprise destination since he forgot to mention the country entirely!

I am a done deal on Budapest and I will ck the arrondisements.
Now it is (which direction to go from there - vienna/bratislava make easy train/bus travel sense) but the way off the beaten path and unexpected is intriguing!

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Ilga - thank you so much for replying.

James -
James - Thank you - this is wonderful and a huge help! Of Kiev and Lviv - it seems Lviv is positioned in a better area in terms of safety warnings nearby. It sounds like I could have trouble at some borders around Kiev - but no trouble at Lviv?
Now I just need to find out if I can find warm enough clothing for me - the 4th generation californian. I was looking at Krakow and my husband has been there before - but he has not been to lviv. I had him complete a list of all countries and cities he has been to and all that he has not been to - and those to avoid at this time - and it appears he forgot to mention Ukraine entirely. It says a US passport is fine - no visa needed. He is coming from Spain and he will be in europe two months before me - so I can only select countries that do not require a visa since the destination is a surprise! He walks two months in europe - so I get to select the 3 week vacation destination. ;)

Here is what I am thinking...
--Fly San Francisco to Vienna
--10 days Vienna
--Train to Bratislava
--2 days Bratislava
--Train to Budapest
-- 10 days Budapest
Fly to San Francisco

But I am going to check the smaller cities you mentioned. I feel like I am finally getting somewhere! I will check out those arrondisements in Budapest.

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PS - which one most like 4th arrondisement in paris? (marais area) that is my absolute favorite. I stayed 2 weeks in that arrondisement and could have stayed for years.

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IF you are one of those people that Vienna speaks to; excellent. David has been to Bratislava, I haven't because I just never heard enough good about it for it to be a first choice among many choices. David shows good judgment on the forum, so I would certainly consider it. My choice if I had to be responsible for my recommendations would be Gyor and the nearby Archabbey at Pannonhalma instead of Bratislava.

I know the 4th A. somewhat well and for the Budapest neighborhood most like it probably the lower half of District VIII. But the lower half of VII will share a lot of the same feeling. Lower end means closer to the river.

I wouldnt go overland to either Kyiv or Lviv. Airfare from Budapest to Kiev is under $100. If you are going to Budapest then Kiev is the easiest to reach. Lviv requires a change in Kiev or Warsaw. I absolutely love Kiev and am returning for Orthodox Christmas (along with Lviv). Neither is any more dangerous than Rome.

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The key here is November. A lot of the smaller places I love just aren't going to have the same impact in November. I do think eastern Europe is the place to be though, as I would rather be in 25F weather in a culture that celebrates the winter than 45F weather in a culture that simply survives the winter.

The Christmas Market in Budapest opens around the 10th of November so that's a plus. Christmas in Ukraine isn't until 7 January, so their markets open early to mid December so a negative. But all these larger cities and towns have theater, concerts, great cafes and if you are lucky ..... snow!

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Hi,

Staying in a particular city for an extended period is certainly one way to do the vacation. On this last trip ending in July, I did exactly that too, stayed 14 nights in Berlin and 13 in Vienna. My choices in answering your question on the "best 2 cities" (such a subjective answer I have) are Vienna and then Budapest, since I don't know it so well, there are plenty of sights and spots that would hold my interest for 10 days. If I chose a town, then it would be Pilsen and Brno, and several places in Moravia and eastern Bohemia (historically) that are absolutely captivating to see at least once, ie from 18th to 20th century....Slavkov, Olomouc, Ostrava in Moravia, Sadowa east of Prague, etc.

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I just want to thank everyone for your time. this is a wonderful site.

Here is my plan for now - I feel like I am finally ready to buy a book. I love delving into travel books before my journey, but since my husband has not left on his 2 month journey - I am holding off on ordering my books!!

This has been much more fun and now I can come up with additional ideas and swap out things in the books. What I realize now is that there is way more than enough for me in Budapest - so that will be our base.

I do want to go to Lliv some day but for now, we both need a slow relaxing vacation and to return refreshed after healthy sleep and meals - days of reading and days of sleeping and even a few spa days! I am so excited and I thank you for your detailed advice. ;)

I will be officially booking the trip before the end of the month - so it is exciting.

I found a place that has a horse ride, but I really did want to go on the horse tour at that farm - closes in November. ;) But one horse ride will be wonderful.

OK - HERE IS THE PLAN - a lot of flex time in it and the days are not in a particular order. but i included time to rest and no-plan days and spa healing days.

BUDAPEST (Lower District 7 or 8) (20 Days in November)

  1. SLEEP
  2. Spa Day
  3. Horse Ride
  4. Random Touring
  5. Castle District - Buda (1 day)
  6. READ- WRITE - REST - nice dinner
  7. Random Touring - Ruins Pubs (1+ nights)
  8. Spa Day
  9. Danube Bend Day Trip (all day)
  10. READ- WRITE - REST - nice dinner
  11. Etvek Wine Country Tour with Dinner (all day)
  12. Random Touring
  13. Hungarian Cooking Course
  14. House of terror
  15. Hungarian state opera house
  16. READ- WRITE - REST - nice dinner
  17. Christmas Fair - one day or more
  18. Random Touring
  19. Spa Day

If time,
• Gyor Day Trip (Maybe Bratislava Overnight then Gyor in Day and back)?

Not sure I will end up doing all the tours - but the wine dinner tour sounds awesome and my husband will love the cooking course. This country also seems to work better than many with my dietary restrictions (wheat, etc.)

So - I am thrilled. thank you all!!!!!
If you are ever in need of pebble beach,carmel, monterey, santa cruz, advice - let me know.

Jet

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Do as much wine-tasting as you can. Hungarian wines are good to excellent and reasonably priced.

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BUDAPEST (Lower District 7 or 8) (20 Days in November) Look for an apartment in the area bordered in the link: https://goo.gl/maps/9sGhBDgdBKm The area south of Kiraly utca is most reminiscent of the 4th A., the part north is also very well situated and perfect for food, wine and strolling in the evening.

I sent you a PM with a few more ideas…

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Of those you list, Jett, I like Monterey the best, never get tired of going there and try to go there once or twice a year, at the least.

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James - is lower 7 the party area. I just want to make sure I am not over a loud bar or restaurant area.

map is helping. Are you James the "superhost" on airbnb?

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Well, arrondisements are French. Kerület's are Hungarian. But what you want to look for will be expressed as either a Roman numeral such as VII and VIII or "District VI" or by the postal code like 1063 where the 1 means Budapest and the 06 means District VI and the 3 being a further subdivision of District VI. You may also see from time to time the name of the District.

District V Belváros-Lipótváros
District VI Terézváros
District VII Erzsébetváros
District VIII Józsefváros

But I generally only see the names written out by tourists to demonstrate their .... well whatever.....

Good question about the party district. By lower, I just mean lower number addresses on the main roads that run from the inner loop (Múzeum krt / Károly krt) to the outer loop (Teréz krt / Erzsébet krt). Or to put it another way, that which is closest to the inner loop. A quick lesson on Budapest geography

Looking at that link I sent you the zone inside the half circle loop (Múzeum krt / Károly krt) closest to the river is District V. This area I call Disneyland. It is 110% sustained by tourism, and yet it has very little worth seeing other than the river front which tourism and all is stunning.

Between that inner loop and the next one out (Teréz krt / Erzsébet krt) you will find the parts of VI, VII and VIII that is most interesting to visitors. From Kiraly north is District VI, its where I stay because to me it’s the most interesting. It includes the opera and Andrassy ut and my favorite wine bar and restaurants. The historic old M1 metro line runs under Andrassy ut and connects some of the best of Budapest and if you don’t want to ride the metro, the walk up Andrassy ut is some of the best walking day or night. It will be all lit up for the holidays by mid November.

Below Kiraly utca is District VII. District VII was primarily Jewish prior to the WWII and the area served as the deportation ghetto. When you walk up a side street off Kiraly utca, when you reach the back of the building facing on to Kiraly utca, know that you are stepping across the boundary into the Ghetto where ten of thousands died of starvation, sickness and exposure. Those lovely old streets had bodies stacked like cordwood along their sidewalks.

District VII is also the “Party” town where you will find the Ruin Pubs. But I didn’t think that was the environment you were looking for so I limited my boundary to Holló utca; beyond that street the party district begins.

Moving further south, beyond Rákóczi út you reach District VIII. Until recently District VIII was sort of rough, but that has changed completely in the areas closest to the inner loop road and to about mid point between the inner and outer loop road. Again, this why I put the boundary where I did. This area has some stunning architecture of old palaces and interesting courtyards. It’s a bit far from the center of everything, but the 47/49 tram runs the inner loop and will connect you to the heart of Budapest.

Now, having said all of this, if you send me addresses of the lodgings you are considering I might be able to tell you about the street and the convenience of the location. More than happy to. Sometimes they don’t give you an address, but they do a name. In that case sometimes I can find the place by name.

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I missed your final question. No, i am not James the Super Host on Airbnb. You will not find my name on any AirBnb document. Not that i have a problem with AirBnb, just never rented through them.

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Thank you all - I am so excited. I just booked my round trip flight and also my husband's return flight.
Now, I am ready to book the apartment for 3 weeks!

Later, I will place a request on the forum for the best restaurants and ideas for things to do in Budapest!

I thank you all - and especially James for the significant time you spent. Please let me know if they have a referral/referrence sysstem on this - I would love to give you an amazing reference. You really helped me and I am thrilled to know of the best part of budapest that I willl love staying in. jet

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I do this for fun, and to kill time between my visits (T minus 24 days and counting). So its a pleasure. Send me the apartments you are looking at.

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OK - James - I have it down to 3 apartments and also going to compare hotels just in case. AirBnB gives approx areas that I need to confirm 100% before booking. I am speaking with three owners - trying to determine the size of one still. One seems too small for 3 weeks - I don't know how to upload the photo maps.

PS - I think I miscalculated hungarian currency and now have to find diff places hahahaa - ugggh.

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Send me the links to what you are looking at. Sometimes they show the outside of the building. Ive done this for a few people and the detective work is fun......

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Okay, here is the first one: https://www.google.com/maps/@47.495591,19.0602796,3a,90y,197.14h,92.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD0TD8aGT5fUrjkqEMfanXg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

I’ve sat in that café on the first floor a couple of times for a beer on a hot day. This isn’t the prettiest street and it has a lot of tourists, but not terrible by any means. Another view, second building from the right: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Doh%C3%A1ny+Street+Synagogue/@47.49671,19.0606092,127a,35y,191.26h,45t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x4741dc42507d41cf:0x4128af63d0508608!8m2!3d47.4959071!4d19.0606139?hl=en My guess is mid-1930’s sort of a Bauhuas influenced building.

My biggest criticism, and it isn’t much, is that the nearest tram and metro stop is Astoria about 300m away. Since it is the M2 line you will have to make a change to the M1 at Deak Ferenc ter to reach the point of interest up Andrassy ut. But the tram is the 47/49 which is really convenient. https://goo.gl/maps/Bf9mw6FBpEq

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James scores again for Budapest. He tends to be quite persuasive. Personally, with 20 days I would have done 2 places - and I am a very leisurely traveler.

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Hi Emily, James Fred Ilja and everyone who has been helpful. Since my husband is coming off of a 60 day walk at 20 miles a day - one place is best for him. Otherwise, I would have selected the original 2 hub plan. It is likely that we will stay a few nights somewhere else, but I am booking a flat for the full 2 weeks and if I have to double pay a few nights it will be well worth having a "home" to return to without moving bags.

James - I followed the map you gave me. but the airbnb give a vague location - not exact. I was going to boo the one facing the synagogue - but I really want a good area near the right metro to get places.

there is one fancier one I can share url too - i think i skipped that.

PS - Someday I plan to be an experienced traveller giving advice and persuading people to my favorite locations - hahahaha ;)

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Okay, I struck out on the second one from your first post. First of all the photos of the streets are taken all over the area and don’t seem to relate to the location of the apartment.

Then there is the description. Located in the most prestigious part
of Budapest,in the center of all tourist activities and sights.The
apartment is located 2 minutes from the Opera,Oktogon sq., Nagymező
street,Andrassy avenue,Gozsdu udvar,2 minutes from metro
stations:M1(Opera) M2(Oktogon) and more best bars,ruin pubs and
restaurants,theaters.

It is a physical impossibility to be simultaneously within 2 minutes walk of all of these locations. The Oktogon is the M1, not the M2; which is better but displays a lack of care for accuracy.

1200meter for Parlament and many attractions.The river Danube with
their bridges,the National Muzeum,the famous Vàci fashion street are
waiting for you!

Okay, that is 1.2 km or 3/4 mile.

One of the cities largest Shopping Mall can be found on a few minutes
to walk,also near Mall the Nyugati railway station.From Budapest
airport 30-40minutes by taxi.

Again, inconsistent with the claims in the first paragraph.

If the midpoints are correct and only the walking times are wrong, then the apartment is located dead center in the big circle in their map. If that’s true then this is the general area: https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5048631,19.0582684,3a,60y,25.52h,81.18t/am=t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9-7xlqkt0pOU9wWmJcLt6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

This isnt the sort of neighborhood you were looking for. Public transport isn't very close. Also, renting is an act of trust. These folks may be just fine, but in my mind they haven’t said anything that develops that trust.

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Here are a few more apartments: 1 - this seems more touristy but sure
looks pretty....
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/11510615?adults=1&children=0&infants=0&location=Budapest%2C%20Hungary&check_in=2017-11-06&check_out=2017-11-22&s=JSzd3qIJ

See my other post. It’s the second one I checked out for you. I think you can do better

this seems very small
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/4329399?adults=1&children=0&infants=0&location=Budapest%2C%20Hungary&check_in=2017-11-06&check_out=2017-11-22&s=JSzd3qIJ

Avoid this if you aren’t into crowds, music, drinking, etc. It’s in the heart of the party district. But an absolutely wonderful district to visit in the day time. Lots of great cafes, shops, etc…

This one not available entire time, but I could stay in a hotel first
week and move to flat when husband joins me - i have not delved into
the details of noise on this one - but love the look inside.
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/626987?adults=1&children=0&infants=0&location=Budapest%2C%20Hungary&check_in=2017-11-06&check_out=2017-11-22&s=JSzd3qIJ

Astoria isn’t a bad location. I know the building. The street can be a bit noisy but maybe this faces the courtyard. Its close to the 47/49 tram and the M2 so its convenient for getting around. Comprable in ay ways to the first one on your first post. The one near the Synagogue.

have not investigated noise etc - but looks nice too
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/13186932?adults=1&children=0&infants=0&location=Budapest%2C%20Hungary&check_in=2017-11-06&check_out=2017-11-22&s=JSzd3qIJ

Love it. Good neighborhood. The street can be a tad busy, but its so narrow there wont be a lot of cars speeding by. The red arch entrance across the street is the Spinoza Café which holds Klezmer Concerts on Friday night. I love Klezmer music. Great lunch, so-so dinner place. Heart of the Jewish Ghetto. Amazing place.

But not always “beautiful” that is your building. Think of it this way, you can still touch what was, as its not overly restored.

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.4975651,19.0604711,3a,90y,307h,128.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skMlJssrLp5-I58-gRnRNFA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

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Emily, most of my trips are about 18 days and i do 10 days in Budapest after 8 days of more intensive travel. So, you and i share that as well. A quick read will see that i suggested the OP check out a half dozen places including Vienna (despite the fact that Vienna just isn't my cup of coffee). STILL, if I didn't have this wanderlust I could easily spend month after month after month in Budapest. Come to think of it, that's the plan in about 5 years....

Once Jet13 gets the Budapest thing worked out, i am going to suggest some day and overnight trips.

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AND, on the Dob utca location (the last one), it does have a downside. Its a solid 6 minute walk to a metro or tram stop. BUT, there are three to choose from and the walks to each of those locations can be worth the effort as it goes through some pretty fascinating real estate.

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Hi James,
thank you -

OK _ sorry,I am getting a little confused.

Per my understanding - these are the 3 good ones? Or, maybe I was supposed to rule 2 of these out? I understood the others and ruled out the small one with the noisy party area and the other one - i am not sure if I have included the one that is mis-represented in terms of walking distances etc.? (I HAVE NAMED THESE URL'S one, two, three so I will understand which you are discussing. ;)

TITLE: NUMBER ONE
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/13186932?wl_source=list&wl_id=230964333&role=wishlist_owner&check_in=2017-10-31&check_out=2017-11-22&guests=2&adults=2&children=0&infants=0

TITLE: NUMBER TWO
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/16048184?wl_source=list&wl_id=230964333&role=wishlist_owner&check_in=2017-10-31&check_out=2017-11-22&guests=2&adults=2&children=0&infants=0

TITLE: NUMBER THREE
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/626987?wl_source=list&wl_id=230964333&role=wishlist_owner&check_in=2017-10-31&check_out=2017-11-22&guests=2&adults=2&children=0&infants=0

which should I eliminate?
should I eliminate two and continue searching in one refined area for the neighborhood?

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I am fine with ugly exterior building - however, "tagging - graffiti" where I come from is a sign of a neighborhood that is less safe.

Safety is a top concern - especially for week 1.

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Some background study. (it gets happier as you go down the list
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxmz0Mpd6uU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE1FX0Uf01I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8vbwshAD40

just some friends…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsQPMMusuG4

Hi James, thank you - OK _ sorry,I am getting a little confused. Per
my understanding - these are the 3 good ones? Or, maybe I was supposed
to rule 2 of these out? I understood the others and ruled out the
small one with the noisy party area and the other one - i am not sure
if I have included the one that is mis-represented in terms of walking
distances etc.? (I HAVE NAMED THESE URL'S one, two, three so I will
understand which you are discussing. ;)

TITLE: NUMBER ONE
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/13186932?wl_source=list&wl_id=230964333&role=wishlist_owner&check_in=2017-10-31&check_out=2017-11-22&guests=2&adults=2&children=0&infants=0

This is the one on Dob utca. Of all you sent this is my favorite.

While a city like Paris has seen its prime, any decay is a sign of decline. Budapest has not yet reached its post war prime and so decay is that which has not yet been repaired. Graffiti is a problem all over town. Good neighborhoods and bad. The government is wresteling with it with some degree of success. But until prosperity reaches a higher level and these old buildngs can be restored they will remain targets.. It is the one sad issue in town. But it is 100 times better than it was even 10 years ago. The areas I have suggested are not the “restored” neighborhoods. They are the neighborhoods that are still “real” to some degree, but not trashed out either. For pristine restored you have to look in District V, which is good, but the only Hungarians you will meet will be those serving the tourists.

My wife and I walk that area day and night. My teenage daughter has been there alone. Violent crime is pretty rare in this part of the world. I haven’t even witnessed non-violent crime in a dozen years of traveling there. More than I can say about my trips to Vienna and Paris…. (not that either of them are bad either).

TITLE: NUMBER TWO
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/16048184?wl_source=list&wl_id=230964333&role=wishlist_owner&check_in=2017-10-31&check_out=2017-11-22&guests=2&adults=2&children=0&infants=0

This is the one that faces the synagogue. Nice. Decent location. A little touristy, but not objectionably so and a bit far from the public transport, but again, not objectionably so.

TITLE: NUMBER THREE
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/626987?wl_source=list&wl_id=230964333&role=wishlist_owner&check_in=2017-10-31&check_out=2017-11-22&guests=2&adults=2&children=0&infants=0

From the point of view of location maybe a tad better than the other two. Still A dead tie in my book with Number Two. Because of some of your concerns this might be the best of the three for you. Its more open and public, a more renovated area, etc…. Here is a view: https://www.google.com/maps/@47.4943123,19.060175,3a,75y,288.56h,92.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6EkHVp7oC3y3ZY-b0McOYw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

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ok - i am investigating between one and three.
one is around $75 and three around $105 - of course, i will work to negotiate - but will pay through airbnb for secure method - and realize i pay more by doing that - but too risky to pay outside of that system.

I am leaning towards 1 - i like the smaller feel of the back alley - more like the marais area. The other is like a few blocks away from our favorite - but busier street - but love the furnishings in that one - so fun.

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AirBnb, i understand completely.... There is no right or wrong in this sort of stuff. Its all about having a vacation you enjoy and well within your comfort level.

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I am leaning towards 1 - i like the smaller feel of the back alley -
more like the marais area.

That's why I suggested the areas i did.....

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I am choosing the busy one. the one that I like better - less touristy - there are several mentions of the dark alley entrance, but more than that - many noise complaints in reviews - although excellent reviews - i am seeking a nice quiet sleep.

the other that is on busier street - (THREE) is actually the top floor with double windows and has 300+ reviews - i searched on noise etc. and people were very happy - so I will choose it - it also has an elevatore.

now i just need a hotel a few nights before since this is booked the day i arrive. ;)

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You had good places to choose from so you cant do wrong.

For the hotel, look at the Marriott on the river or the K&K on Andrassy ut. Two totally different experiences. Both good.

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I'm booked! I got 21 nights where I wanted- now I just need one night in a hotel. I'll book asap!

Time to order travel language book !!!!
I'm so excited!

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I am now officially moving over to the HUNGARY forum for more details as the trip nears.
thank you all so much - this is a wonderful forum. Jet13