Don't Expect Travel Ban for Europeans to be lifted soon

The flights are already a mess- as one of the many here who have had flights canceled, and found that we were sold flights that hadn't flown since March 2020. We are re-booked, but didn't have many alternative choices.

The airlines will probably try to squeeze all they can out of the summer/ peak season and then cut back as needed during the off-peak months (fall/ winter) since they can’t afford to run somewhat empty return flights with only Americans on them. They will do whatever they need to preserve profit and minimize losses, so get ready for schedule changes based on new demand assumptions

I honestly don’t think it’s going to impact flight schedule for the next month. The airlines know what’s been sold and business travel isn’t coming back right now so they probably know they’re not going to get a lot more business travel doing last-minute booking so they are scheduled based on realistic numbers

now where are you will see this impact is the fall as you go into September and October which are traditionally higher business travel numbers

Also, keep in mind that the airlines transport a significant amount of freight from Europe to the USA. So, while a flight may not be full of passengers, the cargo hold is probably full and generating revenue for the airline.

I have been looking forward to seeing some European friends who have been prohibited from visiting the US. Sad that even though vaccinated the the travel ban extension, they can't plan to travel here anytime soon. Strange that people from Africa and South American can still visit.

My aunt in Germany can't visit her own brother (my father) in the US. She will likely have to rebook and cancel all rentals and hotels and such.

It makes no sense that fully vaccinated people from a place that has lower infection rates and lower variant rates can't come to the US.

It makes no sense that fully vaccinated people from a place that has
lower infection rates and lower variant rates can't come to the US.

The US has no system in place to vet the authenticity of any European citizen's vaccination status. Europe is still working out how to verify each others' status (multiple countries to deal with and some, like Hungary, are using vaccines that are not even approved by the EU body). Also, vaccinated people can still get sick and carry the virus, so vaccination is not sufficient. Probably some testing regimen would be needed on top of it. It was the choice of the EU to let US citizens in just with a paper card and no reciprocity - they obviously expected something that didn't come to pass.

Jim, its why I suggest traveling through a country not banned may be more reliable; like Istanbul for instance.

If Europeans want to visit the USA, just fly to Mexico and come across our southern border.

If Europeans want to visit the USA, just fly to Mexico and come across our southern border.

Not going to work unless they spend 14+ days in Mexico. Europeans who want to enter the U.S. cannot have been in any European countries, or any other listed on the no visit list, for the previous 14 days.

Or are you suggesting they enter the U.S. illegally?

Some of my European friends thought there might be a back door into the USA but found it is closed by rules that state that most international travelers who have been in or transited through Austria, Belgium ( and 34 more) in the past 14 days are not allowed to enter the United States. The only way I can find for entry is to go and hang out in certain countries for 2 weeks and come in the US from there.

The best site I have found for how to travel from anywhere to anywhere else and the rules involved in each variable is this Expedia site:

Check COVID-19 travel restrictions for the places you want to go

https://www.expedia.com/lp/b/travel-advisor

I had to chuckle a bit at the idea that part of the problem was that the US didn't have anyway to verify that EU citizens were vaccinated. They really don't have any system for verifying US citizens have been vaccinated..........