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Canadians-are your hearts breaking?

Are your souls destroyed? Has the world come to an end?

What shall we call this unholy alliance-King Horton's? Donut King? Burger Timmie's?

Sorry this is off topic, but I wanted to reach out in sympathy to our Northern friends on the Helpline. Be brave.

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9110 posts

Note: People from Fort Wayne speak in tongues. .

Posted by
252 posts

My heart is breaking. But perhaps it will bring Tim to California...
Thanks for the concern ;)

Posted by
527 posts

Be not customers of this total junk. That is the way to deal with it.

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1552 posts

They better not mess with my chocolate chunk cookies!!

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2261 posts

Perhaps our northern friends could petition their government to raise corporate tax rates and use the cash to send high school kids on cultural learning trips to Europe. With Burger King it's only slightly less offensive than Stanley Tools, et al, locating offshore so they don't have to pitch in to the country that helped them become what they are. Disgraceful, imo.

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527 posts

Dave...too right you are! Don't patronize this corporate crap!

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1976 posts

What about Whopper Horton's?

Every time I think I can't be any more disgusted by my country, it goes and surprises me. I never eat at Burger King so I can't protest financially, but should everyone boycott Tim Horton's as well? I heard they're coming to the U.S.

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3941 posts

Are we forgetting when Timmies merged with Wendy's in 1995 or so? They split up in 2010 (I think, I had to google it).
I don't care that much - I eat at BK maybe once a year, I don't do coffee, and Tim's donuts have been crap since they started the off site half frozen reconstituted donuts. I feel bad for the youngsters who never experienced fresh on-site cooked donuts. I worked at a Tim's wayyyyy back in 1991 or '92, and my fondest memory of my short time there was grabbing a warm out of the fryer sugar timbit on my way out the door at 11pm. Anyone remember the specialty donuts (bowties and eclairs?). The strawberry tarts which I haven't seen for years? They used to do baked in store cakes and cream pies...the good ole days. :)

This is why I get so excited to go to UK - every 2 years I get to experience the perfection that is Krispy Kreme...

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PS -I vote for Whopper Horton's, and I can confirm a Timmies in Times Sq in NYC. IF only Americans could understand the coffee ordering jargon (hubby drinks it). Double double just gets you a blank look...

Timmies even has a shop in London...(or they did).

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2349 posts

They can't boycott Tim Horton's. The chain sells more coffee in Canada than anywhere else. There'd be a nation of cranky zombies to our north. Latest movie-Canadian Zombies Attack!

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5326 posts

Tim Hortons, for reasons only known to itself, decided to enter the UK market via Spar convenience stores rather than open its own shops. This hasn't really worked out at all.

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32778 posts

I, for one, would like to see Tim's coffee replace the muck at the British train station branches of Burger King - please start with the 2 locations at Euston station in London.

Thank you.

My tastebuds thank you.

My stomach thanks you.

Thank you.

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10226 posts

"This is why I get so excited to go to UK - every 2 years I get to experience the perfection that is Krispy Kreme..."

I don't get the appeal of Krispy Kreme. I like donuts as much as the next person, and I won't drive 15 minutes to the closest KK to get one. I guess they are okay when hot, but if you don't eat it there and it cools down it doesn't come close to the local donut shop less than 5 minutes from me.

Burger King...meh. It's been many years since I've eaten at one and we have them all over here. If I did go to BK I would definitely boycott them if this merger goes through.

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703 posts

Andrea I'm with you on the Krispy kreme's. We tried them once and they were WAY too sweet for us. I love a nice cake style donut with tons of nuts on the outside. We get them freshly baked from our local grocery store. Yum.

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I'm not concerned in the least about the merger, as I don't patronize either Timmy's or BK. The food in both places is mediocre at best, and I've never understood the almost religious fervour for Timmy's coffee which is inferior (IMO) compared to what I usually drink at home.

Ironically the only time when I might stop at either place is when I'm travelling. TH seems to have branches in most Canadian airports and BK seems to have a lot branches in Europe. If I happen to be close to one when I'm hungry, I'll stop there simply because it's an easy and convenient option.

Regarding the move of the BK head office to Canada, it's a business decision to maximize profit so not sure why that would be a concern. I chuckled a bit when I heard some of the comments on CNN, which headlines (paraphrased) like, "American restaurant moving out of country, will this change your dining habits". Other comments from the political side labelled BK as "unpatriotic". I have to wonder how many other large corporations have moved off-shore to reduce taxes, and yet very little notice was paid to them.

The whole thing is a big "non event" for me.

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It doesn't make a lot of difference to me. I may eat at Burger King 2 or 3 times a year and, considering that it's fast food, the food is OK. Since I live just over the border in Detroit, Tim Horton's has been around here for years and has "restaurants" all over the place. I do occasionally have breakfast there when I'm on vacation in Ontario, I'm in a hurry, and I'm not looking for a wonderful culinary experience. Their donuts are perfectly OK without being wonderful though I do like the Canadian maple ones, and their breakfast sandwiches aren't for me since I can't eat either cheese or pork. I dislike their coffee. I agree with all of the negative comments about Krispy Kreme. I don't resent BK management for their tax inversion strategy -- they're in business to make as much money as they can for their shareholders. Any "fault" lies in our outlandish tax system in the US.

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32212 posts

One other point to consider.....

BK may find that they've "shot themselves in the foot" (so to speak), as we have a Federal election next year. If the government changes, the next regime may not be as "tax friendly" as the current one and corporate taxes could rise.

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7363 posts

In the meantime, prepare for the latest product roll-out - a double cheeseburger on a glazed donut. Extra onions, or hold them, your choice.

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8450 posts

Everybody's worried about the corrupting influence of US culture on a Canadian institution. I am worried about the opposite: all that politeness, good manners and grooming will totally change the US fast food experience. Heck, maybe the BK cashiers will even be able to make change.

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I'm with JG and Ken on this one.

Tim Horton's hasn't been "Canadian" for quite some time. I doubt many Canadians know this. Any evil American influence over a Joe regular donut shop is simply made up so people can start a flaming war on the net.

Their donuts and coffee are okay (far too sweet for me) but far below what you get from a good Mom and Pop donut shop/bakery (we're lucky to have two near us, they sell PROPER donuts). And Whoppers will do in a pinch, but if I want a really good burger made the right way, I'm heading to a steakhouse. :-)

It's funny, but with how global everything is (and has been for quite some time), I honestly don't get people who think the merger of a burger joint with a donut shop is going to bring about the end of the world.

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@Frank II - LOL! Ok, so what's next, jelly-filled fries? Whopper holes?

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Adam, TH was once under Wendy's for a while. I don't remember outrage about that.

Now they'll be with Burger King. Yet there's outrage about that.

Regarding what you posted, jumping from being Canadian to non-Canadian to Canadian to non-Canadian seems to prove my point that TH ceased being "Canadian" long ago. More like "global" now.

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For Kathleen, from Wikipedia;

it must be true then...

(from somebody who both reads and contributes to Wikipedia)

Regardless of how the company is structured, follow the money and look at the owners...