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Berner Oberland passes research

Regarding Switzerland this September [hopefully] and all the Travel Passes-

I'm still crunching the numbers and working from maps without enough detail. I am also terrible with directions and reading maps. [It's a good thing I plan the trips and my husband or daughter actually have senses of direction and are in charge of actually moving me around.] I have several questions about accessing transportation inside the BO:

We will be in Murren four nights. I think the train takes us into the BO area and deposits us at the Interlaken Ost station???

In order to get into Murren from Interlaken Ost, we much then access lifts/trains that aren't covered by a Swiss Travel Pass???

Once in Murren, the Schilthorn would be completely covered by the Swiss Travel Pass?

What does it involve to get from Murren to the other side, the using Jungfraujoch route?

I can't compare costs of the various passes unless I know exactly what lifts/trains I would need to access these specific points.

Thanks so much and please understand that directionality and understanding maps is a major challenge for my brain!

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The Swiss Travel Pass covers all modes of transport to Muerren. It gives a discount for the Schilthornbahn cable car above Muerren to Birg and the Schilthorn top station. It gives free transport back to Lauterbrunnen station and the cogwheel train up to Wengen. From Wengen up to Kleine Scheidegg and the Jungfraujoch it gives a 25% discount.

For Schilthornbahn prices with various passes, https://schilthorn.ch/en/Infos/Timetable__and__Tariff

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Pat, picture the BO as a valley surrounded by steep mountains. Interlaken is at the very foot of the valley. You switch trains there to take a smaller train up the valley to Lauterbrunnen, which is on the floor of the valley. Look up and you will see Mürren halfway up on the side of the mountain. From Lauterbrunnen, you take a small cogwheel railway up to Grutschalp and another short small train ride right into Mürren. From Mürren you can take the gondola up the Schilthorn, or back down to another part of the valley. From Mürren you can look down at Lauterbrunnen. You will need to go back down to Lauterbrunnen in order to get to the other side. Its pretty seamless.

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In case you don't already have it: This is the map showing Swiss Pass validity:

https://cdn-doc.myswissalps.com/docs/default-source/rail-network-maps/swisstravelpass.pdf?sfvrsn=7788603a_52

Rail lines are red; bus lines (mostly if not exclusively Postbuses, I believe) are yellow; cable cars are black. A blue line means the pass doesn't cover that route. Dotted lines means the pass only gives you a discount, not full coverage. Long dashes just indicate tunnels.

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I couldn’t find a better copy, but this link will take you to a map of the Lauterbrunnen Valley that I think will help you visualize what the others have mentioned.

https://www.offexploring.com/aussie-lost/albums/topdeck-mega-european-trip/9282230

At the bottom of the map is Lauterbrunnen. To get there, you will take the train from Interlaken Ost (there are 2 train stations in Interlaken). Stan describes the next steps to get to Murren. That entire journey is covered 100% by the Swiss Travel Pass.

Everything from the bottom of the map up to Murren and Wengen is covered at 100%. It’s when you start to go above, using the various cable cares that the Swiss Travel Pass will only provide a discount. I think it was 2 or 3 years ago that the ride to the Schilthorn was covered at 100%. For 2021, you get a 50% discount.

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You all are invaluable resources. I actually have a large map/brochure from our Dec, 2019 trip, which does help.
But-
I'm confused -under "Scenic Mountain Adventures" five are listed, to the lower right of the map:
Gornergrat, Jungfraujoch, Rigi, Schilthorn , and Titlis .
It states that Rigi and Schilthorn are free with the Swiss Travel Pass. I've done Rigi, and it has been covered. But there is conflicting info about Schilthorn. Or- has that changed in the last two years? I'm not sure how to send a screen shot.

Thx to all for your help. I now understand that the Swiss Travel Pass does cover travel up/down from Murren and Wengen. That helps immensely.

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Stan, thank you for your visual. I need all the help I can get.

Carrie, I think you explained the Schilthorn mystery while I was actually typing. It has changed!!! thx!

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Forgot to mention, you can use the SBB app or website located here

https://www.sbb.ch/en/home.html

to determine the price of journeys without the pass. Just plug in Lauterbrunnen to Schilthorn for example and it will figure out the route and price for you. So, you don't necessarily need to figure out on your own all the separate legs of a particular journey.

I think it's been mentioned that the SBB website assumes you have a half price card, so you may need to double the prices to get the actual full price without any discounts.

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One minor correction to the info above. The Lauterbrunnen to Grutschalp connection is by way of a cable car not a cogwheel train. At least it was a few years ago. Perhaps the cable car was replaced. I did check the SBB site it it still shows as a lift.

It’s a beautiful area. Enjoy your trip!

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Carrie, that is a good pix. I'm order to find a hard copy of that info. On to Amazon!

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acraven, thank you also for your 2021 map.

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Lauterbrunnen to Grutschalp

Lauterbrunnen to Grütschalp used to be until 10 or 15 years ago a funicular. The ground shifted and the funicular was no longer as safe. So it was taken out of use and replaced by a cable car/gondola directly over the route of the former funicular. As you go up you may see one or two small segments of rail from the former system.

There has never been a cogwheel train on that segment - it is far too steep for that.