Anyone know about Work4Travel Frontier Club?

Has anyone heard of the "travel and work" company known as Work4Travel Frontier Club? They have a great website, and if you pay $35 for a 2-year membership, they hook you up with amazing places and opportunties all around the world! Most of which pay you, and will cover airline fares, etc. These include conservation jobs, cruise ships, ski resorts, working at Oktoberfest in Munich, you name it. HOWEVER, I paid my $35 and havent gotten any membership number, access to the member site like it promises, or anything.
Is anyone else in this club or know how I can directly get ahold of this organization??

Posted by Trotro
Olympia, WA, USA
251 posts

I looked throught the site and I am not really sure what it offers. It seems like it will give you acess to a bunch of job postings. I read through the job postings, and recognized many that I did to travel around (more than) a few years ago. Keep a few things in mind.

This geared towards British people (just like the book Work Your Way Around the World) for legal reasons there are more opportunites for a British person to do casual work abroad than Americans. Do not believe when it says that visas are getting easier. They are not.

This is LOW pay work. Sometimes just a few hundred $$ a month, maybe room and board.

No one is going to fly you to work in a ski chalet or Oktoberfest. Why? There are hundreds of people already standing there ready to work. (This is how Austrailians, NZrs,and British people spend their gap years.) In all my years I have only been flown to work on private yachts/homes, this was after I was a chef w/yrs of experienc.

Posted by Trotro
Olympia, WA, USA
251 posts

Don't beleive people when they say that Americans can't work abroad, they can, but unless you are VERY qualified in one area or another that work is not going to be found from the states.

Go to the ski chalets, go to the cruise companies etc...

P.S. No contact number. sounds shady.If you want to complain your bank will be able to provide you with comapany details when your CC clears the bank.

Posted by Frank
Falls Creek, Victoria, Australia
48 posts

Hmm, the work4travel.co.uk website has hidden registration details, but the mirror site frontierclub.com says it's registered to John Howard, East Shore Street, The Old Factory, KW8 6LA Helmsdale GB +44.1431821030 using an email address off another domain he owns jungle-boy.com .

The only thing that mitigates any concern is the fact these sites have been registered since 2000/2001 - if it was a scam I'm surprised it's survived this long.

Having said that I think you will only get generic contact details for companies for the price. It's quite low IMO.

Posted by Amy
Monroe, WA, USA
7 posts

Wow! Thanks for your info!
HOW DID YOU FIND THAT INFO???? You seem like a guy with some knowledge on finding this kind of stuff. :)
How did you come across that phone number? Do you recommend I call it? I have some international calling cards on hand I could use, so thats not the problem. And yeah, I was thinking the same thing about how long theyve lasted considering theyve been around for a long time. Any suggestions on what to do? Call? Write? Wait?
I appreciate your help soooo much!! Thank you for your time.
Amy

Posted by Frank
Falls Creek, Victoria, Australia
48 posts

I'd probably try a couple more emails asking if they can provide the access you have paid for - try their other email address john(at)jungle-boy(dot)com as well as their enquiry(at)frontierclub(dot)com one and say you had a problem that after payment you did not recieve the access that was promised. Make sure you provide your paypal receipt number when you do so they can track it.

Since this may have ben a browser or security problem (popup blocker, javascript error, or a few other things I could think of), it may not be all their fault, but you should still be able to get a response via email.

If you don't recieve a response within 48 hours from then, I'd try ringing the number (I can't guarantee it's correct, but it fits within the general number range for the location given.

If that fails, dispute the charge with your credit card company when the bill arrives. Keep copies of your attempts to communicate with the site owner to prove you have acted in good faith.

Posted by Amy
Monroe, WA, USA
7 posts

thank you again for your help. How did you find the jungle-boy address? I didnt see anything like that, but thanks again. I have emailed about three times within the past 48 hours and have received nothing back. I think I will give it a few more days. Im gonna try the jungle-boy one also. And I did try and email the enquiry@frontierclub address also already, with no replies.
I wonder if anyone will even answer the phone...
Thanks again for your help and suggestions. Anything else you might find would be great, even though Im not sure how much more there is to know. Im just hoping I can get through to the bottom of it. :)

Thanks again,
Amy

Posted by Amy
Monroe, WA, USA
7 posts

Hey there to anyone who may still be checking the thread! It turns out I DID after all have a blocker that prevented the membership site info from appearing on my browser. Work4Travel FINALLY got ahold of me and I now have complete access. And they responded to all my emails all at once. :)
I just want to say thank you to the people who responded to my thread, helped me look into this, etc. I does help to show me though to always always research an organization before paying money to anything.
Thanks and happy travels to everyone!!
Amy

Posted by Bea
OH, OH, USA
1157 posts

Amy,

It's a scam. I signed up, about 1 year ago and I got my money back only because I threaned them with filing complaints.
You pay $35, but you won't get anything. When you log in, it will be taken to a land sale offer, another scam. They ask you to buy a piece of land in Costa Rica, if I remember correctly, believing that the price will go up. you only see a picture of the land. however, I expected to see a database where I could search thru. It's not like that. They'd ask you where and what kind of job you want, and they claim that they take care of everyting, visa etc. So when I told them that I want to do my own researc and asked them if there will be another charge for that, they never answered me my question. I got out by searchin for the web site owner on whois.net and found his name, email and phone number as somebody else said.They claim that they are from Costa Rica, but the owner is from UK. DON"T DO IT!

Posted by Carla
Luxembourg
1 posts

Hello, Yes I've heard of it and payed! and didn't get any reply as well, they are SCAM big time! so be careful and I am writing this for anyone else who heard about them or are thinking of signing up, Work4Travel Club - FRONTIER CLUB IS A SCAM. All the best, Carla

Posted by Frank
Tresana, Highlands Ranch, CO, USA
10868 posts

People, check the posting date !!!! This is over three years old. Doubt if anything in the posting is accurate other than a scam.

Posted by Amy
Monroe, WA, USA
7 posts

Yes, this particular ad has been up for a while. About three years go, I was scammed by this company. This ad continues to stay up on Rick Steves' travel board, since its probably still a well-read posting. Final thought.... STAY AWAY FROM FRONTIER/WORK4TRAVEL. Its just another scam to the max. If you want a nice travel/work database thats free and totally legit, just hit up www.goabroad.com !! Best wishes and safe travels!!
Amy

Posted by Amy
Monroe, WA, USA
7 posts

Carla, keep trying to get your money back! Call, email, do whatever. It took me a while but I finally got through to them. And when I did hear back from them via email, they were mouthy and rude! It was insane to get such an email from a "business!" All the more reason to never trust them. But get your money back and move on! Check out www.goabroad.com for amazing travel ideas instead! :) Peace and safe travels!! Amy

Posted by Meghan
Chelsea, MI, United States
1 posts

Oh man! Darn!!!! If only I had seen this before I foolishly paid for this! I have been sending them e-mails furosciously!!!
Any ideas on how to truly get my money back! This is hogwash!

Posted by Eileen
Texan in CA
3580 posts

Assuming you used a credit card and you haven't received what you paid for, contact your credit card issuer for a charge-back. Good luck...

Posted by Amy
Monroe, WA, USA
7 posts

Megan, yeah, dont give up. Even if you have to call your bank/credit card company, do whatever you can. Like I said, it took me a long while to get a hold of these people and finally I did. Dont expect them to be too nice either. They didnt seem happy to return any money, but it all finally came back. Good luck! Amy