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Airfare going up

I've been watching airfare prices for a couple of months now, hoping that the price would go down a bit as we get closer to our trip next year but the exact opposite has happened. What was $1500 is now $2200 (multicity Windsor CAN to Dublin then Edinburgh back to Windsor CAN for two people). I haven't seen this big a jump in price since I've been retired (almost 3 years) and planning adventures for my husband and I. Does anyone know why this is happening and if the prices are expected to drop back down? TIA.

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I wouldn't begin to predict the direction of airfares, but that's quite an increase if you're still looking at exactly the same dates. There have been several periods of quite low fares over the last month or two.

Have you considered flying out of Detroit?

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7042 posts

I did read something about those really low fares that people have been commenting on are going away but don't know if that's what is affecting your particular flights. When are you going? If it's not until April or later I'd wait a bit before worrying about it. They go up and down. I'd definitely check other airports too.

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703 posts

Flying out of Detroit is much higher than across the river in Windsor. I am going to wait until I find a fare that I feel is reasonable before I book, I just wondered if anyone else was experiencing this.

We leave April 24, 2017 for Dublin and return May 11th from Edinburgh. Although I am considering adding a few days in Paris at the end because their airfare is much more reasonable, well at least it was.

Thanks!

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729 posts

We paid $740 4 months ago for an October Air France nonstop round trip from Detroit to Paris. The Delta partner flight was the same amount. I would not say that all flights out of Detroit cost more than those out of Windsor.

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Buying airline tickets too early can be as expensive as buying too late. I personally would be scanning prices three to four months out from your desired departure date. I don't even think the airlines understand their pricing structures which are determined by complex algorithms that are capable of changing prices minute to minute to maximize profitability. And I would definitely scan BOTH airports. Just because you saw a disparity between the two doesn't mean that the favorable price won't flip to the other airport.

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7049 posts

Airline pricing is totally dynamic and fares change daily...it's all done by computer algorithms, so a human head can't know exactly "why" or "where" prices are headed...the best thing to do is also not worry too much, especially if your trip is fairly far into the future. Just because a price jumps once (or twice or even many, many times) doesn't matter that much in the grander scheme of things - keep at it until the price gets to a level that's in your budget.

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I'm seeing $1261 from Detroit to Dublin and from Edinburgh to Detroit on your dates. That's about normal Spring airfares for those routes. The times in the air are reasonable on the flights noted--changing flights in Philadelphia and JFK. The fares noted are in U.S. currency.
I agree about waiting until January or February to book the flights. Airline analysts take off for Christmas, and they often decide about late WInter and Spring airfares based on supply and demand after the Holidays. We've often caught some great airfares in late January.

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I have noticed to exact opposite, air fares are way down from last year. Not knowing your travel dates or what your looking at for those prices it is hard to advise. My flights for May of next year have fluctuated when I look now (too far out) greatly but when I plug in 5 months from now they go down even more.

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I agree that fares are very dynamic and you still may find an acceptable deal. To help you find that sale, I would recommend putting in a fare alert on Google Flights. It will send you an e-mail you and alert you when there is a price change up or down. I found very inexpensive tickets ($700s roundtrip) from the western US to Italy for next June that way. The sale was short, so the alert really helped.

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I agree that fares are way down, even from earlier this year. In May, using SkyMiles for a $300 discount, my fare to Madrid was just over $1000. Currently that flight is about $800. And I just booked RT Chicago to Paris for next May for $472.

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Not sure about this, but my hubby who is a bit of a tech enthusiast has read that many of the airline sites remember your computer and searches and are unlikely to give you cheaper flights than what you saw on your first search on that device, sometimes even raising them a bit with each search. You can get around that by using a new device for the search, or clearing your cache before doing a new search. Not sure about the validity of this, but it's worth a try.

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Air Canada, WestJet and Aer Lingus are all competing on the Toronto-Dublin leg of your itinerary. With Air Transat also crossing the Atlantic, and a reluctance to travel to possible trouble spots such as France, capacity exceeded demand this summer compared to 2015 and prices dipped. As well, spot sales have been offering bargains but only on restricted dates. If you were flying in early December, you could find round trips out of Windsor Ont. at around $1,000. In your place, I would start shopping for 2017 in December and make your purchase by the end of January. I'm sure you know that you need to use a multi-city search function for this itinerary.
Because you live on the Canada-US border, there are two wrinkles to face. Making a connection between Windsor and Toronto Pearson confines you to Air Canada and its Jazz associate. To connect to other airlines in Toronto will probably raise the YQG-YYZ one-hour flight price. As to flying from Detroit, one of Metro Detroit's flight paths goes over my house but I haven't used that big airport in some time because of price. Even two years ago, when the Canadian and US dollars were at par, the US carriers were much more expensive than Air Canada. Now, with a one-third premium, the difference is unthinkable.

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I think the only rule that is constant is that there is no rule. I have never waited to only 1-3 months for a trip to buy international airfare. I have consistently found deals in the days immediately prior and immediately after holidays. I have bought for summer vacations over President's Day, Thanksgiving, and Labor Day (yes, 10 months in advance), and have always found fares well below 1000. Know what a good fare is and be vigilant about looking for it. I have used dozens of websites and have found the searches on Google flights to be the best. You can craft a multi-city, multi-airline itinerary and have Google load it straight into the airline's website for purchase. I found flight options this way I could not find searching directly on the airline's website.

Good luck!

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If I know specifically where I want to travel I start with Google flights. If I know when I want to travel but am open to a country I also add in Aer Lingus. They also have the option to put in dates and will show you the fares for various cities. That is how we decided on Rome during the February school break. The airfare was only $650 from JFK so we grabbed it. We purchased in May. as soon as we decide country or dates, we start looking and grab what we feel is a good fare, then we never look again. Once booked, we move on to hotels, tours, etc.

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Just wanted to update you that I found airfare this morning at a price I was willing to pay. I generally use Firefox and instead opened Windows Explorer for my search on Air Canada. It might just have been a coincidence but on Explorer the price from Windsor to Dublin (via Toronto) then home from Edinburgh to Windsor (via London & Toronto) was $1512 for two people. We leave on April 24, 2017 and return on May 11, 2014. Since this was the price point I was looking for, I grabbed it.

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Does anyone remember the days before "dynamic" airline pricing? The prices weren't set by algorithms -- they were just published and that was it. Technology is indeed a two edged sword.

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Fares trans-Altantic are jumping around and there are bargains to be found but only on very confined dates. Diana's price of $1500 US has to be divided by two to be compared. That works out to $756 US per person. Air Canada's site today showed the individual fare for the intended route at just over $1000 Canadian per person, which approximates the currency conversion to the fare she quoted. That's still a little cheaper than two months ago across the Atlantic. Less than last year, too.. The difference she is seeing may result from mixing the Canadian and US dollar prices, I suspect.
Even the airlines don't know what will happen with supply and demand. Canadian airlines overestimated the demand trans-Atlantic this summer so there have been some reductions, but there is no way of being sure what will happen next.
By the way, a search for Air Canada will possibly turn up a Beta version of the website, which is not to be trusted. Here is the link to the existing site: http://www.aircanada.com/en/

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I started watching flights this time of year last year for a July flight to England. My brother who travels constantly said that fares usually are high right around the holidays and wait until the new year. What I did for about a month in January was check the fares every day for about a month to get a feel for what is a good price. And being OCD, I had a spreadsheet on it. I noticed that the airlines would "drop" a small number of cheap seats either early (like 3am) on Tuesday or Wednesday. The key was to snag the seats at that price. So it might take a little restraint and getting up early, but you can save about $400 a ticket. I am not sure if others have tracked prices as I did. But the key is waiting.

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I am not a good waiter, ha ha. Once I get a price I am comfortable with, I book it, which I did a few days ago. I guess I'm too OCD about trips and want to get as much done as possible so I can forget about the constant looking for the best price. I may check the prices again in January but I've already booked so probably not. The only thing left is the train which I can't book until early February. But thanks for the tips!

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I just booked into Zurich for the second week in April with United for 2 under $900.00 for both, less then $1000. with insurance. I am pretty excited. We are staying in Europe until the end of June, on our own. We have a cruise booked from Venice at the end of April and I am in that marvelous planning stage. I love it.

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Delta is having a huge sale right now with good priced fares into June 2017. You might look today!