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Advice for 2 months in europe

Hi guys! My boyfriend and I are from Australia and are planning on going to Europe for 2 months from mid November - mid/late January. We don't have a specific budget at the moment but are planning on staying mostly in hostels. We also mostly want to travel by train with eurail and want to do some overnight train trips to maximise time in places. We love being outdoors (And are aware it will be freezing a lot of the places we go) and seeing historical monuments. A very rough itinerary is as follows:
-arrive in Madrid (3 nights)
-Seville
-Granada
-Valencia
-Barcelona (3 nights)
Flight to Naples
-stay in Naples 3 nights and do Pompeii
-Rome (already been to Rome so want to explore things other than the Colosseum, etc.)
-Verona
-Munich (already been there, also want to go to Neuschwanstein)
-Rothenburg
-possibly Nuremberg
-Dresden for Christmas
-Berlin
-Amsterdam
- Hamburg
-Copenhagen
-Oslo
-Possibly Bergen or Stavenger and go to Pulpit Rock
-Stockholm
-Rovaniemi
-Helsinki
Home!!!!

We want to spend 2-3 nights in big cities (possibly more) and 1-2 nights in smaller places, but would like advice on whether to actually stay at places like Rothenburg. We are aware of how cold it will be in Scandanavia and the lack of daylight hour but my boyfriend really wants to see the Northern lights. I am aware this is a very ambitious itinerary and would love any input on places to cut out, though a few are just a midpoint between the major cities so would only really stay 1 night. We more or less want to spend 2 weeks each in Spain, Italy, Germany (+ Amsterdam) and Scandanavia.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

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I'd start in the north and work my way south. You are moving into winter and you're more likely to have better weather in the north earlier while Italy and Spain have very mild winters. By the end of November, the Christmas markets in Germany will be in full swing so there'll be lots to do in the evenings, much more than in January.

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Thanks! That's what we had originally planned, but to see our friends as much as we want to it wasnt really realistic. I totally agree with you though. I'm hoping we will get to experience as many of the CHristmas markets as we can!

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7175 posts

For fear of becoming a travelling human Popsicle I would wait for further effects of global warming to kick in before travelling to these parts in Dec/Jan ... which may not be too long at current rates. I will think of you waiting on an open railway platform in -10c from the warmth of an Australian summer.

Seriously though I would start in Spain as you propose. Then fly to Amsterdam and travel in an arc through Germany in the pre Xmas period, finishing in Munich. South into Italy with Christmas in Rome, New Year on the Amalfi Coast. Finally, fly to Bergen to join a Hurtigruten voyage (10 days) and hopefully see the Northern Lights. This would eliminate dealing with the extreme elements when travelling from city to city in Scandinavia by train/bus/ferry.

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There are only a couple of night trains currently operating on the southern half of your route (Verona-Munich and Berlin-Duisburg-Koln with a connection to Amsterdam) and they are predicted not to operate past mid-December, 2016. For Copenhagen to Oslo, there's an overnight ferry operated by DFDS Seaways. The Swedish and Finnish Arctic night trains probably will continue as they have been.

If a mid-point city is not really of interest, consider skipping it and flying; www.skyscanner.com can help you find budget flights within Europe.

Posted by
2393 posts

The joy of touring in the off-off season - no crowds! (except the Christmas markets) Many of the places you visit will be filled with locals and the museums will be your playground! Enjoy!

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Thank you all for the replies! I do like the idea of the Hurtigruten voyage, and like you said, hopefully I won't freeze quite as much. Is it worth making the trip to Pulpit rock? Because it looks absolutely amazing, but I'm wondering if it will be just as magnificent in Winter.
I just love the thought of barely any crowds over Christmas! Will the Amalfi coast be open over Christmas and New Years?

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15798 posts

Will the Amalfi coast be open over Christmas and New Years?

Where are you thinking of staying? You said Naples, which is not the AC.

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7175 posts

Chani, I had mentioned Amalfi Coast in my post.
Sorrento is a functioning town so, although some hotels & restaurants may be closed down over the winter, you will find some normality of services for residents. Some here with recent experience may offer their thoughts.

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"We want to spend 2-3 nights in big cities (possibly more) and 1-2 nights in smaller places"

I would seriously re-think that!

For your actual site seeing -that will give you 1-2 days in cities and 1/2 day to 1 day for smaller places. Running at this pace for 2 months seems extreme.

You have a wonderful opportunity to travel for 2 months. Even if you want to travel at a fast pace, I'd slow down from your current plan.