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3 places for 2 weeks each

Ric and I are shifting our plans from mostly revisiting favorite places with new locations sprinkled in to more discovery of new-to-us locations with maybe a fave or two on day trips. Places we do not want to go as we’ve been so many times, the Lauterbrunnen Area/Great Jungfrau Region, and the Val Gardena (which isn’t served by train anyway).

We are looking at fall, mid-Sept to late October, 6-ish weeks with 2 weeks in each of three places. Our criteria are

  • Town or village directly served by train
  • No car rental if possible, but may be open to a short rental period if inspired
  • Suitable activities and day trips within 60 to 90 minutes
  • Easy walks and hikes, flat to undulating, no more than 500 feet of gain, no rocky surfaces (the realities of aging)

Under consideration, and this is where I need guidance, are

  • Samedan in the Engadine. We’ve stayed in Pontresina twice but not explored much beyond the immediate area and a bit of St. Moritz. I see reasonable (for CH) rentals, lots of walking potential
  • Somewhere outside of Basil, Switzerland. Mulhouse? A small German town? Suburban to Basel? We want to use the area as a base to go to Alsace (spent a week in Colmar once), Freiburg, Neuchatel and more in CH.
  • Lucca as a base for parts of Tuscany, the coast, maybe a foray into Liguria

What other locations might you recommend from personal experience? Are these good locations given our criteria? I love to be in Italian speaking locations which is part of the draw of Samedan and Lucca.

Not planning for the UK nor Ireland as we’ll be there in the spring.

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Swtzerland is very expensive. How about South Tyrol in Italy?

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Mark, We go to the Lauterbrunnen area and Ortisei in the Südtirol a lot, over 100 nights in each place since 2012. They are favorite areas for us, in fact the areas we do not want to go on this trip. Perhaps I should have mentioned that in my post. I will edit.

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For Switzerland, check out Interlakken.

Instead of Lucca, I recommend Siena instead to use as a base.

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Editing to add places we absolutely love as “models” but not to return to at this time

  • Lauterbrunnen
  • Ortisei (if it had a train it would be even better!)
  • Kandersteg
  • Pontresina
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Doing something similar next year during the same time period, but will likely have a car and hit some old places. Already booked one place in the Garmisch area.

Garmisch-Partenkirchen is not a bad spot to be without a car. Lots of hiking opportunities at various levels of difficulty. Easy and fairly quick to get to: Munich, Innsbruck, Starnbergersee, Andech/Ammersee, Oberammergau, Linderhof, Ettal Abbey, Mittenwald, Murnau/Staffelsee/Murnau Moos, Weilheim. Fussen takes longer to get to but doable; very nice, easy walk around Hopfensee.
Browse the Gapa, Ammergau Alpen and Alpen Karwendel websites.

I found Mulhouse to be a bit grimy. If not staying in Colmar, best use a car for Alsace and stay in one of wine villages. Lots of hiking, nothing overly strenuous. Staufen is a terrific little village in the Black Forest. For day trips, getting between the Black Forest and the Alsace villages is time consuming without a car.

Anyhere between Cochem and Bullay on the Mosel without a car. After the Alps, my favourite area in Germany (haven't been too far north). A great mix of trails. Bernkastel-Kues, Trier, Luxembourg City, Beilstein, Zell plus many other villages. Burg Eltz. Realistically, many places on the Rhine can be hit from the Mosel by rail. Check Bahn.de

A car is required for an enjoyable stay in Tuscany. You won't find as many marked trails as you do in Switzerland or France.

With a car and somewhere different, Merano. Only spent a day there many years ago. Great spot.

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I rarely see any mention on this forum of the Alpujarra region of the Sierra Nevada in Spain. I was there about 15 years ago. There is an extensive network of trails in a national park. There is not a train but there is a bus that runs from Granada and between villages several times per day. Some of the villages are an easy walk from each other. There are trail information centers in several of the villages. My impression was that the area was popular with British and German walkers and hikers. I'm not sure about spending 2 weeks there.

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I spent 3 nights in Samedan almost 40 years ago. I think the hotel was the White Stag or something like that. It was convenient, but not especially pretty or scenic. I remember wishing I had stayed in Pontresina up the mountain. Samedan itself 's pretty flat along the Inn River and you can walk to St Moritz if you want to hike. But I wouldn't think it's worth 2 weeks - you'll end up going to Pontresina or St Moritz all the time.

I've not been there, but have always wanted to go to the Appenzell region which it sounds like there's two weeks of living there. Also Stein-am-Rhein is a very pretty town near Basel for a choice.

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Italian/German speaking Merano which we reached by train was wonderful. Great hikes, food and a spa town! The French alps? We spent three weeks in a town on a nice train line and made many day trips to surrounding peaks, lakes, markets and towns. Our town was ok and well connected by trains, La Roche sur Feron. Nearby towns of Annacy, Evian and Chamonix were wonderful but crowded in the summer. Nearest city is Geneva just a 1/2h train ride away.

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So much great input and food for thought! I have some rabbit holes of research to go down as soon as we finish our current trip. That with two books to update should keep me off the streets for a few months.

I like the idea of exploring options in Germany. Thanks! Also, Stein-am-Rhein appeals. We’ve been to Appenzell, but I might have to look at it as a base instead of a location for a short stay!

Spain is a bit out-of-the-way for us given our interests and I’d worry about the heat. Even in October we would not likely tolerate it.

You are probably right about Tuscany as far as hiking, Gundersen. But walking around little villages is nice as well. Like int he Alsace.

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The stretch of Spain along the northern coast from Galicia to the Basque Country doesn't usually suffer from extreme heat even in mid-summer. You'd be unlikely to have weather issues there, except for rain. I'm not a hiker, so I can't identify specific areas for you, but the scenery in Galicia and the Basque Country is beautiful.

I wonder about the Bodensee, a large lake with some rail service in the area. I'd think there would be lots of nice walks. I remember the botanical garden on Mainau Island as being very beautiful (decades ago).

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Personal preference: I enjoyed Lucca more than Siena. And I especially love Liguria .I spent most of my last Italy trip there.