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20 year "friend-niversity" trip

Hi everyone,

Ok, we are now in the very beginning of our planning, but my friend and I are planning a big trip to celebrate our 20 years of friendship. We're both in our 30s and not too into the "party" vibe anymore. We would consider a beachy destination but that's not the only thing we would like to do. Language barrier doesn't matter except we probably won't have time to learn another language (just enoughto get by). Also, reliabe transportation and easy access to things to do is ideal! Ihave been to Germany and Austria before but my friend had not been overseas.

I know there's a TON of places to consider going, but if anyone can help with suggestions, that would be awesome!

Thanks alot!
Anne

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Most countries in Europe have reliable transport access and tons of attractions, so to narrow down a multitude of places, you should first provide info on: common interests, combined budget, and time constraints - and (only) then you'd get better advice here.

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Gosh, what fun! If I were going to plan a trip with my best friend and given what you have told us, I would think seriously about spending some time first in Paris and then traveling to Nice. These two destinations fulfill some of your criteria. Just a suggestion: as I said, this is what I would probably want do with my friend of 20 years. That's truly a relationship to be valued and celebrated! But sigh....as you say, there are a"TON" of wonderful places to be considered!

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Since it technically falls in June, that would be a fun time to go, unless a lot of places are very hot. Depends on weather. We both like mountains (panoramic views), the ocean/sea, like to just chill at a nice coffee shop or restaurant. We also like to shop and people watch. What I enjoyed about Germany were the various parks and open areas to just sit, relax, and maybe catch some street performers. I also liked the fact that Germany didn't have that "big city" vibe to it. London and Paris wouldn't not appeal to me. The people I knew who went to both of those areas didn't have a lot to say about it. My friend and I did suggest spain or italy, but we are very open to anything.

Being to Europe only once, I'm not sure about budget as of right now. My parents and I used frequent flyer miles and had between 200 and 300 euro with us (not including accommodations). We're open to looking at vacation packages as well.

In retrospect, we should probably limit our time to one week because of work and the like. I'm sure that most places need at least a week for booking. We might end up using vrbo.com for booking a place.

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Thanks Andi! I totally forgot about Nice :)

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Not knowing how long you have but noting your desire for variety, I would say keep it in France ...

City - Paris
Country - Provence
Mountain - Chamonix/Annecy
Beach - Nice/Cote d'Azur

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Thank you David! France does sound nice and that beach is beautiful. Now I have something to research

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If you (your friend) only get to visit one country in Europe, it should be Italy.

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She actually mentioned Italy right away when we were discussing :) The language barrier won't be bad, either. What city/region would you recommend?

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If you concentrate on Italy, consider flying into Venice, then train to Florence, and then train to Rome. Since you are going in June (I think you said) I personally would not venture farther south because of the heat. Of course, we don't know how much time you have so it is a little difficulty to point you in the right direction. Just don't try to do too many places in a short period of time. Travel between places can (and will) eat up a lot of your available time.

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I did mention that June would be our actually anniversary, but I just threw that out there as a possibility. That does sound great! Even a day trip to one of those cities? Time wise, I mentioned a week (or week and a half) due to work restraints. But it's unclear what our vacation days will be like 2 years from now. lol

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If you truly only have one week, that's really 5 days on the ground because you'll lose two in flying back and forth (and then there's the jetlag to boot). Is there any way to stretch the number of days? I'd hate to be a downer, but Europe is too much of an investment (flights are too expensive for example) to only stay one week. But if that's all you can swing, definitely pick one place and maybe a side trip because that's all you'll have time for. Focus on someplace that will minimize time and money to fly there from MN because it seems you're really short on time.

I know this is totally out of the blue, but how about Iceland? I think Icelandair flies out of Minneapolis direct and summer is a great time to go (never gets hot and the sun won't go down so lots of daylight hours). It's a great outdoors place, it's not overwhelming (in a big city kind of way), beautiful scenery, easy to get around, and great place to eat and hang out. Because the scenery is so amazing (including the Blue Lagoon), it's a trip you won't likely forget. It has a small town feeling but with lots to see and do. Only downside is it's not inexpensive.
http://www.visiticeland.com/
http://www.iceland.is/

Alternatively (if Europe doesn't pan out), how about Montreal? It's not France but it feels like a foreign location due to the culture/language. Easy to get around. Great cafe and foodie place, lots of low key things to do for a week. Can even take a train up to Quebec City. I spent 5 full days in Montreal and 3-4 in Quebec City and loved it.

Best of luck picking something - what a great idea to celebrate a friendship!

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That is a really good point. Haha. I forgot about that. When I went to Germany and Austria, our trip was just a couple days shy of two weeks. I thought that was a good amount of time.

Funny that you mention Iceland. My friend in AZ is going there in the middle of June. I'll be able to ask him about it!

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Agnes is absolutely right! With only a week (or even a week and a half) you should concentrate on one city with some day trips from there. Personally I would choose Venice -- but then I do love that city. It is a truly unique city unlike anywhere we've ever been. Some will say that is too much time for Venice, but a day trip to Murano & Burano can consume an entire day. Same with Verona, Vicenza, and Ravenna. At any rate, don't try to do more than two cities at the max.

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Thank you all for the advice! I appreciate it :)

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Just make sure you take into consideration that a lot of beaches in Europe are made up of rocks rather than the soft sand that most Americans are used to from many of our own beaches, Mexico or the Caribbean. Not saying you can't enjoy yourself, but if you have visions of lounging on a towel with your toes in the sand, you should do some advance research as to which beaches can offer you that (Nice is not one of those beaches). Otherwise, be prepared to rent a chaise lounge and invest in a good pair of the kind of sandals you can wear in rivers or oceans so you aren't stepping on sharp rocks along the shore, or under water as you try to make your way out to swim in deeper water.

If it is just a week, I would think about flying open jaw to Spain. Fly into Madrid for a few days, take a high speed train to Barcelona, fly home from Barcelona. You can enjoy 2 cities and have a little bit of beach time in Barcelona. If you want Italy, I'd also try for open jaw. Fly into Rome for a few days, head to Rimini for some beach time, move on to Venice and fly home from there.

If France is what you are wanting, consider basing yourself in Paris for the week and doing a few day trips by train (Versailles, Giverny, Rouen, etc.). If you don't care so much about beaches with pebbles and rocks instead of sand, you can forego the ultra touristy Nice for something like Dieppe which is just 2.5 hours by train from Paris. While not as hot as the French Riviera, in the summer months, it's still warm enough and you can have a full beach day but be back in Paris for a late dinner and some nightlife.

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Anne, if you really only have five days on the ground (and jet lagged at that), then I'd say go to Paris. A day trip to Versailles or somewhere nearby, and you've got a memorable trip. For Italy, you could do Rome, but Venice and Florence are not day trips from there.

oops, I missed the comment about not being interested in Paris. Sorry.

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The OP said "London and Paris wouldn't not appeal to me." Yet she's getting Paris recommendations.

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Our train of thought right now is going to Venice. From there we want either florance or milan. But that beach town of Rimini sounds great as well. I never heard of that place

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You could also go into the Italian Dolomites from Venice if you want mountains. It is beautiful and and pretty close by. A nice escape from the city ( and Venice will be crowded, great, but crowded).

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With ten days, and Italy as preference ...
Venice (3 nts) >> Florence (3 nts) >> Cinque Terre (2 nts) >> Milan (2 nts)
Or
Venice (2 nts) >> Florence (2 nts) >> Amalfi Coast (3 nts) >> Rome (3 nts)

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Hi,

If London and Paris are out, and/or so is France. If not, stay in the whole time in France.

If you want a place other than France, then I suggest Germany for spending the week, the small towns or smaller cities, depending on any specific or esoteric interest and above all, to avoid the typical tourist spots. Lots of places to choose from...Bonn, Bad Godesberg, Bad Ems, Weimar, Lüneburg, Potsdam, Marburg an der Lahn, Meißen, Koblenz, Berlin (if you're all right with visiting a metropolis), Minden an der Weser, Görlitz, etc.

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"Our train of thought right now is going to Venice. From there we want either florance or milan."

If you don't want big cities, avoid Milan. I enjoy it, but it is very much a city. Florence is smaller but still not small. Better options given your stated tastes are some of the smaller cities near Venice, like Verona, Padova, or Ferrara. Or you can look into Lake Como or Lake Maggiore near Milan. Just be sure to check on the connections between these places and your departure airport. Particularly if you have an early flight, you may need to spend you last night either in the city or near the airport.

"But that beach town of Rimini sounds great as well. I never heard of that place "

Just be aware that many thousands go there in the summer; it may not be known to Americans, but it's hugely popular with Italians.

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Thank you so much! I was unaware that Milan would be a huge city. Maybe the thing to do would be staying in Venice and exploring the smaller towns. I might have to look at Almarfi Coast. That sounds awesome! I also heard some great things about Lake Como.